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Re: Computer for the Blind Correct URL

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

Thank you, Mike.

Jan


Computer for the Blind Correct URL

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
That URL I posted for the Computers for the Blind website earlier today was not good.  Sorry, but I thought I had the latest, but the correct URL is below.
 

Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused for any of you.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.


Re: windows 7 in general.

Gene
 

I consider any information as to prices or what are the latest highest standards in technology as far as performance and perhaps other matters I haven’t thought of while writing that is over six months old to be possibly wrong.  Things change very quickly regarding technology.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Okay; I didn’t know the prices had gone up, since they stayed the same for so long.  So, I don’t know when they went up.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
How long ago was that?  Here is a quote from the application page:
To apply for a computer we have a processing fee of $130 for a desktop, and $185 for a laptop,
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: win7 security software?

Gene
 

MSEE will continue to receive updates for Windows 7 users. If that is your concern, you need do nothing.  If you want to take other precautions, I don’t know how much it costs nor who will provide the service, but one or more companies, maybe Microsoft among them, is providing updates if you pay for the service.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:51 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] win7 security software?
 
hello all,
as certainly for the foreseeable, I plan to continue using win7, now that no more security updates will be forthcoming, I think I need to find some other security software to keep my machine hopefully protected from hacking, viruses, spy and malware, etc.
such software would need to be fully accessible, preferably with window-eyes, or if not, definitely with NVDA.
if possible it also shouldn't get in the way of the programs I already use which access the internet for what ever reason.
any ideas please?
as previously I have relied on MS security essentials and windows security updates, so haven't really had to think about this before.
I am not bothered if the software is free or paid, the major priorities here, are that it does the job, does it well, is accessible, and hopefully continues to do the job well and accessibly.
 
Simon
 
 


Re: windows 7 in general.

Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay; I didn’t know the prices had gone up, since they stayed the same for so long.  So, I don’t know when they went up.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
How long ago was that?  Here is a quote from the application page:
To apply for a computer we have a processing fee of $130 for a desktop, and $185 for a laptop,
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: windows 7 in general.

Gene
 

How long ago was that?  Here is a quote from the application page:
To apply for a computer we have a processing fee of $130 for a desktop, and $185 for a laptop,
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



avoiding columns

Joe Giovanelli
 

Hello, Everyone,

I do a lot of optical scanning; I use Docuscan Plus.

Often plays or skits are written in sujch a way that the character name and the first word of what he says is separated far enough that Docuscvan thinks that it's a column.

What I see, therefore, are the names of characters, and they are followed by what the people say. At that point we read what should be said but without the name of the person speaking the line.

I have to find all of this and then type in the names before the words to be read.

Is there a way to instruct Docuscvan to ignore column breaks?

I'm asking this here because System Access does not have the best customer support.

I appreciate any help with this.

Joe Giovanelli, W2PVY


win7 security software?

goshawk on horseback
 

hello all,
as certainly for the foreseeable, I plan to continue using win7, now that no more security updates will be forthcoming, I think I need to find some other security software to keep my machine hopefully protected from hacking, viruses, spy and malware, etc.
such software would need to be fully accessible, preferably with window-eyes, or if not, definitely with NVDA.
if possible it also shouldn't get in the way of the programs I already use which access the internet for what ever reason.
any ideas please?
as previously I have relied on MS security essentials and windows security updates, so haven't really had to think about this before.
I am not bothered if the software is free or paid, the major priorities here, are that it does the job, does it well, is accessible, and hopefully continues to do the job well and accessibly.
 
Simon
 
 


Re: windows 7 in general.

Pamela Dominguez
 

Last I knew, the laptops were about $125 or $150.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: windows 7 in general.

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

That is understandable. I can handle $180. I will check it out. They might be double the desktops. Thanks for letting me know.

Jan


food delivery apps

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I have waiter, grub hub, favor, and door dash all on my phone and they all seem accessible but I wonder if anybody has used any of these and can comment on how they work?

I've never used any of these myself but in just opening them and looking at them I see that favor shows the delivery fee for each restaurant, do the rest of them do the same thing? It appears that I have to register on the other 3 apps I mentioned besides favor and I haven't done that yet.

Is a tip expected over and above the delivery fee or is the delivery fee considered the tip? Do some restaurants use more than one delivery service or do they all just use one and there's no choice? Oh, and do I call the restaurant to make the order and then tell them I want it delivered or do I make the order through the app in some way?

Anything anybody can tell me will be greatly appreciated.

Troy


Re: windows 7 in general.

Gene
 

I doubt they ever sold laptops for 100 dollars.  They sell desktops for about 100 dollars.  They sell laptops for about 180 dollars.  I’m saying about because I don’t recall exactly.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.
 
I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: windows 7 in general.

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

Thank you very much, Mike. I will browse the website. I can call them during the week. I really appreciate that.

Jan


Re: windows 7 in general.

Mike B
 

Hi Jan,
 
Here's the contact info for Computers for the Blind:

Phone#:  1-214-340-6328
 
Email:  info@...
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.

I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how
to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does
Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could
get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille
notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h



Re: windows 7 in general.

David Moore
 

My first laptop in 2005 was awesome!

Since then, I have owned four laptops, and two of them do not have a numpad!

You really get used to using the laptop commands built into screen readers!

You do not have to keep moving your hand back and forth!

I really like my Asus laptop a lot!

I have not had one bit of problems on this for 5 and a half years, and I have installed every build of Windows 10 on it since August of 2015!

This is like a time X LOL!

It has taken a licking, and keeps on ticking!

I really like my HP laptop as well!

It has a SSD drive, and is so fast!

The Asus has a hard drive, and I can really tell the difference!

Eight Gig of ram has been plenty for my flying and everything!

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

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From: jan howells via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 5:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.

 

I would love to have a laptop computer.  I am going to learn how

to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes.  Does

Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could

get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille

notetakers as a braille terminal.  Or I could learn Nvda.

 

Jan h

 

 

 


Re: windows 7 in general.

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

I would love to have a laptop computer. I am going to learn how to use the Dell computer desktop in work skills classes. Does Computers for the Blind still sell computers for $100? If I could get a laptop for $100, I would then use one of my braille notetakers as a braille terminal. Or I could learn Nvda.

Jan h


Re: question about temporarily unsubscribing

Gene
 

Its much better to go nomail.  If you have a fully setup account, you can do this with a browser as a general setting.  If not, you can do it group by group.
 
To go nomail for this group, you would send a blank e-mail to this address:
To resume delivery, send a blank e-mail to
 
If you want to resume delivery as a digest, there are other commands but I assume you want single message delivery.
 
The same syntax isw used with other Groups.io groups.  Name of group plus etc.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 4:05 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] question about temporarily unsubscribing
 
        Hi Group:


I'm going on vacation tomorrow and I was wondering if there is a way to
unsubscribe from the lists I am on until I get back?  I will be gone for
a week and I get a load of mail per day and won't be able to check it. 
So if possible, I would like to temporarily unsubscribe if there is a
way to do this.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shelly




question about temporarily unsubscribing

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


I'm going on vacation tomorrow and I was wondering if there is a way to unsubscribe from the lists I am on until I get back?  I will be gone for a week and I get a load of mail per day and won't be able to check it.  So if possible, I would like to temporarily unsubscribe if there is a way to do this.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shelly


Review of the braille me braille display from January 2020 access world

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

Here is a nice updated review of the braille me braille display. If you are on a budget and need a nice braille display to use with your computer with cursor router buttons give this display a try from www.atguys.com.    The link to the review is below. 




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Re: windows 7 in general.

Gerald Levy
 

Your techie is giving you sound advice.  Microsoft Security Essentials will continue to work in Windows 7 for the foreseeable future.  Database definitions continue to be updated daily, just as they always have, and daily scans are still performed at the selected time.  If you want to continue using Windows 7 until you are ready to upgrade to Windows 10,, be sure to use a modern browser like Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox to browse the web instead of IE, and use a non-Microsoft email client like Thunderbird to maximize security.  Also, perform periodic scans with Malware Bytes, which still works with Windows 7. Contrary to what scare mongerers like Kim Kommando might claim, there are still good reasons to continue using Windows 7 because of all the problems users on this and other lists have reported with Windows 10.  Some users have reported updating their Windows 7 computers successfully to Windows 10 usig the Media Creation Tool or Update Assistant, while others have reported problems withthe upgrade, including complete loss of sound after Windows 10 was installed, requiring tech-savvy sighted help to resolve.  The latest buzz is over the newest version of the Chromium Edge browser for Windows 10, which is apparently beset by all kinds of bugs and accessibility problems, judging from the heavy traffic on the various blindness-related tech email lists.


Gerald

On 1/17/2020 10:25 PM, Penny Golden wrote:
Well, I just re-joined the list after a hiatus.  I'm sure Win7 and win10 have been going around and around.

I spoke to someone whom I trust. He is still using his xp and likes it very much.

I explained that I thought that I had to go to win10.

His reply, in short, was this:

If you keep your paied virus up, and you like what win7 is doing, and you don't have to change for work or some other reason, there is no need to change.

Well, that is fine.

I understand that the virus programs are not tremendously accessible.

My computer gent, i think, believes that  I should do well with Microsoft Security Essentials.

I may be wrong about this that he thinks is okay.

He's coming at 1 pm Saturday, should weather allow. Thank you.  I do not use jaws, but win eyes; and I'm hoping to put on NVDA and learn that.  I am also thinking about a laptop and have begun the process with computers for the blind.

Thanks for any help.  try not to be too technical; i'm a user, not a  technical expert.

Penny

pengold2@...