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downloading purchased amazon software

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


I just purchased a copy of Ms word 2019 from amazon, and I see it in my software library but I don't see how to download it. Can somebody help me?


Thanks.


Troy


Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

John Holcomb II
 

Just as I thought. She doesn’t need  integrated graphics.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Here is a quote from an article on this subject:

Of course, integrated graphics have their downsides too. First, they’re weak. They’re intended for the demands of a desktop user who reads email, browses the web, drafts documents, not users who do more demanding things like games.

 

Gene

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Ok… but is it performance that will be noticed for a blind person running an M.2 SD SSD and 16GB of ram?

If all they are doing is web browsing and email and office work how much will integrated graphics  kill performance?

I don’t think for that tasks having  a built in  GPU will harm enough for it to be noticeable.

Ok…  what if the person doesn’t have $900 to spend? I suppose there are payment options you could pay it off over time but some don’t want to do that.

John

.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I would never buy used equipment that if I could get new. There is no garantie what condition it was used as. And discrete graphics it is simple. Intigrated graphics reduce system performance, as well as the ram. If you have discrete graphics,. browsers, and other apps use the GPU for hardware acceleration and to improve performance. So graphics isn't just for gaming, but the processor itself is useful, and doesn't add much to the price. An entry level graphics is fine, like the rtx 2060 or 3060 now.

On 6/17/2021 2:43 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II mailto:jhii926@... wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

Gene
 

Here is a quote from an article on this subject:
Of course, integrated graphics have their downsides too. First, they’re weak. They’re intended for the demands of a desktop user who reads email, browses the web, drafts documents, not users who do more demanding things like games.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop
 

Ok… but is it performance that will be noticed for a blind person running an M.2 SD SSD and 16GB of ram?

If all they are doing is web browsing and email and office work how much will integrated graphics  kill performance?

I don’t think for that tasks having  a built in  GPU will harm enough for it to be noticeable.

Ok…  what if the person doesn’t have $900 to spend? I suppose there are payment options you could pay it off over time but some don’t want to do that.

John

.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I would never buy used equipment that if I could get new. There is no garantie what condition it was used as. And discrete graphics it is simple. Intigrated graphics reduce system performance, as well as the ram. If you have discrete graphics,. browsers, and other apps use the GPU for hardware acceleration and to improve performance. So graphics isn't just for gaming, but the processor itself is useful, and doesn't add much to the price. An entry level graphics is fine, like the rtx 2060 or 3060 now.

On 6/17/2021 2:43 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone




On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II mailto:jhii926@... wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

Monte Single
 

Oh yes,

I know some video cards cost more than  a half decent p c or laptop.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: June 17, 2021 4:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

It’s a dedicated video card rather than using one built into the laptop.

Both  AMD and intel have chips that have discreet  card support only, but others have graphics chips built right in to the processor.

Graphics cards can et to pretty expensive, and a lot of gamers and crypto minors use them

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Ok,  I’ll bite.

What is discrete graphics?

Does that mean it filters out the naughty bits?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: June 17, 2021 1:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

 John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

John Holcomb II
 

It’s a dedicated video card rather than using one built into the laptop.

Both  AMD and intel have chips that have discreet  card support only, but others have graphics chips built right in to the processor.

Graphics cards can et to pretty expensive, and a lot of gamers and crypto minors use them

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Ok,  I’ll bite.

What is discrete graphics?

Does that mean it filters out the naughty bits?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: June 17, 2021 1:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

 John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

Monte Single
 

Ok,  I’ll bite.

What is discrete graphics?

Does that mean it filters out the naughty bits?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: June 17, 2021 1:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

 John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

John Holcomb II
 

Ok… but is it performance that will be noticed for a blind person running an M.2 SD SSD and 16GB of ram?

If all they are doing is web browsing and email and office work how much will integrated graphics  kill performance?

I don’t think for that tasks having  a built in  GPU will harm enough for it to be noticeable.

Ok…  what if the person doesn’t have $900 to spend? I suppose there are payment options you could pay it off over time but some don’t want to do that.

John

.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I would never buy used equipment that if I could get new. There is no garantie what condition it was used as. And discrete graphics it is simple. Intigrated graphics reduce system performance, as well as the ram. If you have discrete graphics,. browsers, and other apps use the GPU for hardware acceleration and to improve performance. So graphics isn't just for gaming, but the processor itself is useful, and doesn't add much to the price. An entry level graphics is fine, like the rtx 2060 or 3060 now.

On 6/17/2021 2:43 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

 John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone




On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


Re: a white cane question

Monte Single
 

No,
I even take my cane when I walk down the hall of my building to check my snail mail.
Yes, I still get a few bills in the mail. Now, if the companies that send me bills knocked a dollar off my monthly charges, I would accept an electronic statement.
Oh, I am a grumpy old guy!!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: June 17, 2021 2:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Pam, that is the reason that for years, I have always taken my cane with me. My family and friends have come to expect me to do that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Definitely! And if something should happen to that person who is taking you wherever, and you have to take over, you won’t have the ability to do so. Pam.

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

I don’t know if you can generalize. I haven’t seen a lot of different brands of folding canes. I’d have to checck on the brand I have. it is a carbon fiber cane, I believe and the sections are well held to each other by elastic. I’m not sure if the sections can move a very small bit but if so,, it is almost no movement.

But whether I am out with a sighted person or not, I always have a cane with me where I can get it such as next to my chair. How do I know if some unexpected emergency might occur and I might have to use it for some reason.

Not having a cane with you means you are giving up the ability to be independent if there is some unexpected reason that makes it either necessary or desirable to be able to do so.

Or it means you are giving up the ability to move when you can tell where you want to go. if you are in the livingroom and you want to go to the kitchen in an unfamiliar house to join in a conversation, you can hear people talking and know where it is. But without a cane, you don’t know if you might run into something or knock something down. With a cane, you can go to the kitchen. You aren’t going to know where rooms are that don’t give you that sort of auditory information, such as a bathroom. but you won’t have to get help moving to and in rooms where you can tell where they are from where you are.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Burnham <mailto:troyburnham34@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Hi all,


I don't use a white cane much because when I go somewhere I'm almost always with somebody sighted and I walk sighted guide with them. I do have a cane though, one that an O&M instructor gave me, and it's slightly bigger around than any other cane I've ever had and the 3 sections fit together very loosely. Is that the way all canes are made these days?


I won't try to replace this one because I do use it so seldom, but when I unfold the cane and put the joints together they seem loose enough to me that one of the joints may snap if I get the cane stuck in a crack or in some other obstacle.


Thanks.


Troy








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Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

enes sarıbaş
 

I would never buy used equipment that if I could get new. There is no garantie what condition it was used as. And discrete graphics it is simple. Intigrated graphics reduce system performance, as well as the ram. If you have discrete graphics,. browsers, and other apps use the GPU for hardware acceleration and to improve performance. So graphics isn't just for gaming, but the processor itself is useful, and doesn't add much to the price. An entry level graphics is fine, like the rtx 2060 or 3060 now.

On 6/17/2021 2:43 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

 John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


looking fo over the ear headphones

heather albright
 

Hello, I have a hard time to find Bluetooth ear buds. I like my oggy true Bluetooth wireless  earbuds. I got them for 19 dollars with the discount off amazon, they do not have them anymore. So I got the amazon echo buds but, no matter with tip I tried, the shape of the buds kept falling out of my ears. I told the amazon rep and they said that is a common problem with some people with the earbuds.

was wondering if anyone can recommend on ear Bluetooth headsets. I want to be able to carrying them in my purse when I go out. So is there a set of on ear headset that can fold up to take on the go? I really wished ear buds worked for me, at least one did. Thanks Heather

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: a white cane question

Shelly Kane
 

Where can you get a telescopic cane?  I have folding canes and they are quite bulky and I can't fit them in my purse.  I would like it for identification and then I would use the folding cane while I'm walking independently.

Shelly

On 6/17/2021 5:17 AM, Monte Single wrote:
Hi Victor,

I have had at least 2 or 3 telescopic canes.
I really like them for places like airports and planes, restaurants.
When I was working, I kept one at work.
I like how easy it is to collapse them and hang them on a chair or in a pouch etc..
But!! All the ones I have had would be rated as flimsy, they break real easy, usually at the bottom joint.
I'd like to find one that did not break so easily.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: June 16, 2021 11:13 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Are there any good collapsible canes out there? I’m not talking about the folding ones. I’m talking about the telescopic ones. The ones that are kind of like an antenna. I’ve only put my hands on one and that was a long time ago. But I have heard that these telescoping canes break very easily.

Victor
On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:08 PM, Nancy Hill <girlyscream@comcast.net> wrote:

Almost every time I go out with husband or friend. I have my Seeing Eye Dog, Nelly and for 'just in case' I always carry a collapseable carbon fiber cane in side my purse.


I don't know how to do it, but could someone advise how to check if the cord that works a folding cane could be shortened to add to the solid feel of the cane while in use?

nancy




On 6/17/2021 12:13 AM, Victor wrote:
I usually take my cane wherever I go as well. I didn’t when I was younger, but I find myself doing it more now just to be on the safe side.

Victor
On Jun 16, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:
Monty,


This cane is 3 sections like the others I've had over the years, but as I said the shaft of this cane is just slightly bigger around than the others I've had. Maybe the elastic cord inside the shaft is slightly looser than I'm used to and that's what causes it to not seem quite as solid as my past canes have been. It may not be as fragile as it seems to be, I'm just used to the sections fitting together more snugly than this.


Troy


On 6/16/2021 6:41 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Hi Troy,
Mostof the canes I have seen are
4 sections which fit together quite snugly with and heavy, inner elastic chord.
They definitely do not fall apart.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: June 16, 2021 5:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Hi all,


I don't use a white cane much because when I go somewhere I'm almost always with somebody sighted and I walk sighted guide with them. I do have a cane though, one that an O&M instructor gave me, and it's slightly bigger around than any other cane I've ever had and the 3 sections fit together very loosely. Is that the way all canes are made these days?


I won't try to replace this one because I do use it so seldom, but when I unfold the cane and put the joints together they seem loose enough to me that one of the joints may snap if I get the cane stuck in a crack or in some other obstacle.


Thanks.


Troy





















Re: question for the group

George McCoy
 

Like Gene, I use VLC Media player. The video player that comes with windows 10 is called movies and tv. But it seems to be extremely Microsoft-centric.

On 6/16/2021 9:26 AM, DAVID GLOBE wrote:

If any of you watch vidios on your computer, can you tell me the program you use to watch a dvd?  I know my windows ten computer didn't come with one built in.

David  


Re: a white cane question

Carolyn Arnold
 

Pam, that is the reason that for years, I have always taken my cane with me. My family and friends have come to expect me to do that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 2:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Definitely! And if something should happen to that person who is taking you wherever, and you have to take over, you won’t have the ability to do so. Pam.

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

I don’t know if you can generalize. I haven’t seen a lot of different brands of folding canes. I’d have to checck on the brand I have. it is a carbon fiber cane, I believe and the sections are well held to each other by elastic. I’m not sure if the sections can move a very small bit but if so,, it is almost no movement.

But whether I am out with a sighted person or not, I always have a cane with me where I can get it such as next to my chair. How do I know if some unexpected emergency might occur and I might have to use it for some reason.

Not having a cane with you means you are giving up the ability to be independent if there is some unexpected reason that makes it either necessary or desirable to be able to do so.

Or it means you are giving up the ability to move when you can tell where you want to go. if you are in the livingroom and you want to go to the kitchen in an unfamiliar house to join in a conversation, you can hear people talking and know where it is. But without a cane, you don’t know if you might run into something or knock something down. With a cane, you can go to the kitchen. You aren’t going to know where rooms are that don’t give you that sort of auditory information, such as a bathroom. but you won’t have to get help moving to and in rooms where you can tell where they are from where you are.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Burnham <mailto:troyburnham34@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Hi all,


I don't use a white cane much because when I go somewhere I'm almost always with somebody sighted and I walk sighted guide with them. I do have a cane though, one that an O&M instructor gave me, and it's slightly bigger around than any other cane I've ever had and the 3 sections fit together very loosely. Is that the way all canes are made these days?


I won't try to replace this one because I do use it so seldom, but when I unfold the cane and put the joints together they seem loose enough to me that one of the joints may snap if I get the cane stuck in a crack or in some other obstacle.


Thanks.


Troy








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Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

John Holcomb II
 

Tell me why a blind person would need discreet graphics.

That’s the only thing but past that I agree with you on everything else.

I’m not  so sure I agree with

You on price, I haven’t priced new ones and s specked them out.

I know on BestBuy or other places if you go refurb, you can get some pretty good deals on yesterday’s wine that is good enough.

 John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

This is incorrect. 8 gb is ok, but 16 is even better. With no apps open, my win10 system eats about 5.5 gb. That leaves  very little for anything else if I used 8 gb. True a powerful computer probably isn't required, but an 800-900 or so good laptop is worth it for the responsiveness and pleasant experience. A minimum  of dual channel ram, an SSD, discrete graphics, and an i5/R5.

On 6/16/2021 8:27 AM, Gene wrote:

You don’t need a powerful computer to do what you want to do.  Most computers today come with 8gb of ram and you don’t need more.  You aren’t using any memory intensive applications that might bring you even close to using 8gb of RAM.  I haven’t priced various laptops or kept up with different models for a long time, but I doubt you will have to spend more than five or six hundred dollars to get a laptop that will fill your needs well.  I’ll let others discuss the question further.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

I will not be traveling with my laptop. I am doing a ministry through our church so I use the Internet a lot. I also print out braille so I have a Duxberry program and of course I use the latest jaws I just wanted to make sure that I have enough memory in my computer for it to last me for a little bit I also like to keep books on my computer because I download from bard as well

I do not want a slow computer

 

Kathy Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:



What do you do with your laptop? How much is your budget?

Will you be traveling a lot with this and need a good  battery ?

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop

 

Good afternoon to all

 

I need to purchase a new laptop, I need help with how much memory and everything I need for my laptop I use the latest jaws  and I use office products I’d like to do the Internet as well I’m not good at this part when it comes to purchasing a laptop and everything I should have in it

 

 

Kathy


Re: help changing view in downloads folder using windows 10

Kimsan
 

Thanks Vicky!

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicki W
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 11:14 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] help changing view in downloads folder using windows 10

 

1. Hit WINDOWS+E for Windows Explorer.

 

2. Keep pressing D to get to Downloads, and press ENTER.

 

3. Make sure nothing is selected and press shift f10 for the context menu.

 

4. Find the Group option there, and press ENTER on it to get to the submenu.

 

5. Choose NONE, and hit ENTER.

 

This should fix the problem.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 10:45 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] help changing view in downloads folder using windows 10

 

Hi,

Not sure how to do this but when I down arrow in my downloads folder, it says last week, a long time ago, etc.

I’m looking under the view ribbon but I’m not sure what to look for? Can someone guide me?

Thank you


Re: a white cane question

Pamela Dominguez
 

He mentioned his cane is three sections. I've never seen one that only has three sections and that is fat. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Victor
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 12:13 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

I usually take my cane wherever I go as well. I didn’t when I was younger, but I find myself doing it more now just to be on the safe side.

Victor
On Jun 16, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:

Monty,


This cane is 3 sections like the others I've had over the years, but as I said the shaft of this cane is just slightly bigger around than the others I've had. Maybe the elastic cord inside the shaft is slightly looser than I'm used to and that's what causes it to not seem quite as solid as my past canes have been. It may not be as fragile as it seems to be, I'm just used to the sections fitting together more snugly than this.


Troy


On 6/16/2021 6:41 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Hi Troy,
Mostof the canes I have seen are
4 sections which fit together quite snugly with and heavy, inner elastic chord.
They definitely do not fall apart.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: June 16, 2021 5:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Hi all,


I don't use a white cane much because when I go somewhere I'm almost always with somebody sighted and I walk sighted guide with them. I do have a cane though, one that an O&M instructor gave me, and it's slightly bigger around than any other cane I've ever had and the 3 sections fit together very loosely. Is that the way all canes are made these days?


I won't try to replace this one because I do use it so seldom, but when I unfold the cane and put the joints together they seem loose enough to me that one of the joints may snap if I get the cane stuck in a crack or in some other obstacle.


Thanks.


Troy


















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Re: a white cane question

Pamela Dominguez
 

Definitely!  And if something should happen to that person who is taking you wherever, and you have to take over, you won’t have the ability to do so.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question
 
I don’t know if you can generalize.  I haven’t seen a lot of different brands of folding canes.  I’d have to checck on the brand I have.  it is a carbon fiber cane, I believe and the sections are well held to each other by elastic.  I’m not sure if the sections can move a very small bit but if so,, it is almost no movement. 
 
But whether I am out with a sighted person or not, I always have a cane with me where I can get it such as next to my chair.  How do I know if some unexpected emergency might occur and I might have to use it for some reason. 
 
Not having a cane with you means you are giving up the ability to be independent if there is some unexpected reason that makes it either necessary or desirable to be able to do so. 
 
Or it means you are giving up the ability to move when you can tell where you want to go.  if you are in the livingroom and you want to go to the kitchen in an unfamiliar house to join in a conversation, you can hear people talking and know where it is.  But without a cane, you don’t know if you might run into something or knock something down.  With a cane, you can go to the kitchen.  You aren’t going to know where rooms are that don’t give you that sort of auditory information, such as a bathroom.  but you won’t have to get help moving to and in rooms where you can tell where they are from where you are.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 6:26 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] a white cane question
 
Hi all,


I don't use a white cane much because when I go somewhere I'm almost
always with somebody sighted and I walk sighted guide with them. I do
have a cane though, one that an O&M instructor gave me, and it's
slightly bigger around than any other cane I've ever had and the 3
sections fit together very loosely. Is that the way all canes are made
these days?


I won't try to replace this one because I do use it so seldom, but when
I unfold the cane and put the joints together they seem loose enough to
me that one of the joints may snap if I get the cane stuck in a crack or
in some other obstacle.


Thanks.


Troy







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Re: a white cane question

Pamela Dominguez
 

There are also six-section ones that I like better, because the sections are shorter, which makes the cane easier to carry and put in something when folded up. But they are still tight. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 7:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Hi Troy,
Mostof the canes I have seen are
4 sections which fit together quite snugly with and heavy, inner elastic chord.
They definitely do not fall apart.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: June 16, 2021 5:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Hi all,


I don't use a white cane much because when I go somewhere I'm almost always with somebody sighted and I walk sighted guide with them. I do have a cane though, one that an O&M instructor gave me, and it's slightly bigger around than any other cane I've ever had and the 3 sections fit together very loosely. Is that the way all canes are made these days?


I won't try to replace this one because I do use it so seldom, but when I unfold the cane and put the joints together they seem loose enough to me that one of the joints may snap if I get the cane stuck in a crack or in some other obstacle.


Thanks.


Troy













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Re: a white cane question

Pamela Dominguez
 

I've never seen a cane that's loose like that. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Burnham
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2021 7:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] a white cane question

Hi all,


I don't use a white cane much because when I go somewhere I'm almost
always with somebody sighted and I walk sighted guide with them. I do
have a cane though, one that an O&M instructor gave me, and it's
slightly bigger around than any other cane I've ever had and the 3
sections fit together very loosely. Is that the way all canes are made
these days?


I won't try to replace this one because I do use it so seldom, but when
I unfold the cane and put the joints together they seem loose enough to
me that one of the joints may snap if I get the cane stuck in a crack or
in some other obstacle.


Thanks.


Troy








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Re: help changing view in downloads folder using windows 10

Vicki W
 

1. Hit WINDOWS+E for Windows Explorer.
 
2. Keep pressing D to get to Downloads, and press ENTER.
 
3. Make sure nothing is selected and press shift f10 for the context menu.
 
4. Find the Group option there, and press ENTER on it to get to the submenu.
 
5. Choose NONE, and hit ENTER.
 
This should fix the problem.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 10:45 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] help changing view in downloads folder using windows 10

Hi,

Not sure how to do this but when I down arrow in my downloads folder, it says last week, a long time ago, etc.

I’m looking under the view ribbon but I’m not sure what to look for? Can someone guide me?

Thank you

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