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Re: What does it mean when some items on the Processes tab of Task Manager are marked with an asterisk?

Carlos
 

The asterisk indicates a 32 bit process.

----- Original Message -----
From: Walt Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 6:22 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What does it mean when some items on the Processes tab of Task Manager are marked with an asterisk?

The subject pretty much sums it up: I've noticed ever since I started using the Task Manager years ago that on the Processes tab, some items are marked with an asterisk and others aren't. The available help is of no help at all, so I'm asking here on the assumption that someone knows. Thanks in advance.
 
--
Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL
 


What does it mean when some items on the Processes tab of Task Manager are marked with an asterisk?

Walt Smith
 

The subject pretty much sums it up: I've noticed ever since I started using the Task Manager years ago that on the Processes tab, some items are marked with an asterisk and others aren't. The available help is of no help at all, so I'm asking here on the assumption that someone knows. Thanks in advance.
 
--
Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL
 


Re: Promoting the list

Michael Amaro
 

Aw my friend Carlos , join the club I to am not a member of any social networks.  Skype is as far as I'll go.
 
Thanks
Michael
email/messenger
mikeameli@...
Skype ID
mikeameli
JFK
"What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war, not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living and the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and build a better life for their children not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women not merely peace in our time but peace in all time."

From: Jessica D
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi
Anytime I talk to one of my friends, I tell them about it. I also promote the list via text message.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2015, at 2:47 PM, nontoxicster@... wrote:

Here's another thought when it comes to promoting the list if and when needed. Why not use Facebook; Wordpress; and any other social media that you maybe on.


On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 5:09 PM, amanda burt <aburt123@...> wrote:
Here here, I totally agree with this
 
Amanda

Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi Carlos and list,
 
I like a lot of traffic.  The more questions and answers that come in to my TechTalk  folder, the more opportunities I have to learn as a computer user.  And, eventually, the more opportunities I will have to assist others.  I can always hit the delete key if I am not interested in a topic.
 
Many thanks to Carlos and all who work to make this list work so well.
 
James
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
Hi,
With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.
It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.
Robin
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene



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Re: converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Smiling?
 

No, not that I know of.

 

From: Flor Lynch [mailto:florlync@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 2:28 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

 

Is there a file size limit on the pdf’s it will convert? LotApps is a good suite of utilities: I’ve used it to convert pdf’s to html before. While it did so, there were no links (as had been in the original pdf), except for top and bottom of page, and next page (That might’ve been the poorly structured pdf’s, though.) .

 

From: Smiling?

Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Free PDF to Word Converter (no installation necessary):

 

LotApps Free PDF To Word Converter is a windows software that quickly converts PDF documents to Microsoft Word formats (docx). you can batch convert portable PDF's to editable Word files with preserving the original formatting: text, images, column and row layout.

 

PDF to Word direct link:

http://lotapps.com/download/pdf2word.zip

 

From: Anders Holmberg [mailto:anders@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

 

Hi!

I am also very intrested in this question.

As i am in need of it with a manual i have.

/A

6 sep. 2015 kl. 16:55 skrev Dean Martineau <topdot@...>:

 

I like to convert PDF documents to other formats, usually text but could be any of several others.  When I use the conversion routine built into Adobe Reader, all the line breaks are converted into hard line breaks, making it hard to find the actual paragraph boundaries.  Does anybody have a solution to this?

 

Dean

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Ineed an IPAD referral

Flor Lynch
 

Try:

peel-the-apple+subscribe@googlegroups.com

- The owner (I believe he is) goes by the name/username Kliph, and apparently they discuss all types of Apple Macs and iDevices with users (in a patient manner).

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:05 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ineed an IPAD referral

Hi All,

I just got an IPAD Friday and I need to start figuring out how to use it.

Is there a group just for IPADs relating to the blind/visually
impaired? It needs to be one that would only smile and not laugh out
loud when I ask simple questions.

Please give me some ideas.

Thanks,
Nancy
Nancy


Re: Groups.io question

Sugar Lopez
 

Yes this is true. A woner may do so. The owner can also give permission to
made any member a moderator and give him or her the capability to delete
group as well.


'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.
~Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Bowers [mailto:gdbowers@swbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 9:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io question

I disagree. I'm sure that a group owner can remove or delete his or her own
group. Think about what you wrote.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:02 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io question

Hi,
I don't believe a group is deleted by the group owner, unless, its violating
something.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Bowers <gdbowers@swbell.net>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Saturday, 5 September 2015 10:39 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io question



Are test groups removed or cancelled easily from Groups.io by the list
owner?

Gary



Sent from a Braille Sense


Re: Ineed an IPAD referral

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

No iPad only lists that I am aware of since iPads along with iPhone and iPods all run the same operating system, iOS. So, once you become a custom to the iPad, you can also become a custom to the iPhone or iPod. So no is the short answer.

On 6 Sep 2015, at 22:05, Nancy Hill <girlyscream@comcast.net> wrote:

Hi All,

I just got an IPAD Friday and I need to start figuring out how to use it.

Is there a group just for IPADs relating to the blind/visually impaired? It needs to be one that would only smile and not laugh out loud when I ask simple questions.

Please give me some ideas.

Thanks,
Nancy
Nancy




Re: Ineed an IPAD referral

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
 

Hi,
I highly recommend VIphone (I believe it is a Google Groups-based group), and there are some over there who uses iPad.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill [mailto:girlyscream@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 2:06 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ineed an IPAD referral

Hi All,

I just got an IPAD Friday and I need to start figuring out how to use it.

Is there a group just for IPADs relating to the blind/visually impaired? It needs to be one that would only smile and not laugh out loud when I ask simple questions.

Please give me some ideas.

Thanks,
Nancy
Nancy


Re: converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Flor Lynch
 

Is there a file size limit on the pdf’s it will convert? LotApps is a good suite of utilities: I’ve used it to convert pdf’s to html before. While it did so, there were no links (as had been in the original pdf), except for top and bottom of page, and next page (That might’ve been the poorly structured pdf’s, though.) .
 

From: Smiling?
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Free PDF to Word Converter (no installation necessary):

 

LotApps Free PDF To Word Converter is a windows software that quickly converts PDF documents to Microsoft Word formats (docx). you can batch convert portable PDF's to editable Word files with preserving the original formatting: text, images, column and row layout.

 

PDF to Word direct link:

http://lotapps.com/download/pdf2word.zip

 

From: Anders Holmberg [mailto:anders@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

 

Hi!

I am also very intrested in this question.

As i am in need of it with a manual i have.

/A

6 sep. 2015 kl. 16:55 skrev Dean Martineau <topdot@...>:

 

I like to convert PDF documents to other formats, usually text but could be any of several others.  When I use the conversion routine built into Adobe Reader, all the line breaks are converted into hard line breaks, making it hard to find the actual paragraph boundaries.  Does anybody have a solution to this?

 

Dean

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Carlos
 

Indeed you would in most cases want to install them at some point anyway, but just to be clear if it automatically winds up installing them eventually despite what settings you apply in the group policy editor, this is still only deferment and is not how disabling of automatic updates works in earlier versions of Windows.

----- Original Message -----
From: "enes saribas" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


hi,
yes, it does stop them from being autodownloaded and installed. Though you probably have to install them eventually but this option gives you the opertunity to install at a convenient time.

On 9/6/2015 11:40 PM, Carlos wrote:
But does that actually stop them from being automatically installed eventually? As far as I know, you can only defer the automatic installation of updates.
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes saribas" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


hi,
actually, you can set updates to notify for install in windows 10 pro via the group policy editor

On 9/3/2015 7:25 PM, Carlos wrote:
Although I suppose in theory you could disable the service itself which would certainly stop updates altogether, but that is of course not recommended.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Mostly, weather you wait or not, just be aware of the biggest issues that us using screenreaders may have in 10. Gene and others have pointed it out, several times that some of the versions do not allow you to turn off having updates download and install, automatically. This means, that if for what ever reason, an update is going to cause you an issue with NVDA, you're gonna get that update and hopefully, find a way to either uninstall the problematic update or find a workaround. If memory serves, it's only the versions below professional that don't allow turning off updating, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Please forgive if this has already been mentioned here in this thread specifically, I couldn't remember.

On 9/2/2015 2:58 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
gust-30-2015.mp3







Thanks,

<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica











Re: converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Smiling?
 

Free PDF to Word Converter (no installation necessary):

 

LotApps Free PDF To Word Converter is a windows software that quickly converts PDF documents to Microsoft Word formats (docx). you can batch convert portable PDF's to editable Word files with preserving the original formatting: text, images, column and row layout.

 

PDF to Word direct link:

http://lotapps.com/download/pdf2word.zip

 

From: Anders Holmberg [mailto:anders@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

 

Hi!

I am also very intrested in this question.

As i am in need of it with a manual i have.

/A

6 sep. 2015 kl. 16:55 skrev Dean Martineau <topdot@...>:

 

I like to convert PDF documents to other formats, usually text but could be any of several others.  When I use the conversion routine built into Adobe Reader, all the line breaks are converted into hard line breaks, making it hard to find the actual paragraph boundaries.  Does anybody have a solution to this?

 

Dean

 

 

 

 

 

 


Ineed an IPAD referral

Nancy Hill
 

Hi All,

I just got an IPAD Friday and I need to start figuring out how to use it.

Is there a group just for IPADs relating to the blind/visually impaired? It needs to be one that would only smile and not laugh out loud when I ask simple questions.

Please give me some ideas.

Thanks,
Nancy
Nancy


Re: Should I upgrade to windows 10?

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,
yes, it does stop them from being autodownloaded and installed. Though you probably have to install them eventually but this option gives you the opertunity to install at a convenient time.

On 9/6/2015 11:40 PM, Carlos wrote:
But does that actually stop them from being automatically installed eventually? As far as I know, you can only defer the automatic installation of updates.
----- Original Message ----- From: "enes saribas" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


hi,
actually, you can set updates to notify for install in windows 10 pro via the group policy editor

On 9/3/2015 7:25 PM, Carlos wrote:
Although I suppose in theory you could disable the service itself which would certainly stop updates altogether, but that is of course not recommended.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Mostly, weather you wait or not, just be aware of the biggest issues that us using screenreaders may have in 10. Gene and others have pointed it out, several times that some of the versions do not allow you to turn off having updates download and install, automatically. This means, that if for what ever reason, an update is going to cause you an issue with NVDA, you're gonna get that update and hopefully, find a way to either uninstall the problematic update or find a workaround. If memory serves, it's only the versions below professional that don't allow turning off updating, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Please forgive if this has already been mentioned here in this thread specifically, I couldn't remember.

On 9/2/2015 2:58 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
gust-30-2015.mp3







Thanks,

<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica










Re: Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Carlos
 

I also remember reading that certain things which worked in the preview no longer work in the official release.

----- Original Message -----
From: "enes saribas" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


hi,
actually, you can set updates to notify for install in windows 10 pro via the group policy editor

On 9/3/2015 7:25 PM, Carlos wrote:
Although I suppose in theory you could disable the service itself which would certainly stop updates altogether, but that is of course not recommended.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Mostly, weather you wait or not, just be aware of the biggest issues that us using screenreaders may have in 10. Gene and others have pointed it out, several times that some of the versions do not allow you to turn off having updates download and install, automatically. This means, that if for what ever reason, an update is going to cause you an issue with NVDA, you're gonna get that update and hopefully, find a way to either uninstall the problematic update or find a workaround. If memory serves, it's only the versions below professional that don't allow turning off updating, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Please forgive if this has already been mentioned here in this thread specifically, I couldn't remember.

On 9/2/2015 2:58 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
gust-30-2015.mp3







Thanks,

<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica








Re: converting PDF and retaining paragraph format

Anders Holmberg <anders@...>
 

Hi!
I am also very intrested in this question.
As i am in need of it with a manual i have.
/A

6 sep. 2015 kl. 16:55 skrev Dean Martineau <topdot@...>:

I like to convert PDF documents to other formats, usually text but could be any of several others.  When I use the conversion routine built into Adobe Reader, all the line breaks are converted into hard line breaks, making it hard to find the actual paragraph boundaries.  Does anybody have a solution to this?
 
Dean
 
 
 
 
 


Sandboxie and NVDA

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Has anyone had any success making the Sandboxie program work with NVDA?
I want to try to run my web browsers in a sandbox. My most frequently used browser is firefox but I also use Internet explorer 11 on occasion.
I heard about a program called Sandboxie on the Security Now podcast with Steve Gibson.
I installed it but it doesn't seem to work well with NVDA 2015.3 or window-eyes 8.4.
The installation detected my screen readers and offered me the chance to click a button that configures Sandboxie to handle screen readers.
Firefox becomes unresponsive right away when I run it in the sandbox. The title bar says firefox not responding.
Internet Explorer 11 doesn't even start up in the sandbox.
Is there a sandbox program that does work with NVDA?

Many thanks,
George


Re: Question about the Windows m keystroke

Carolyn Arnold
 

I like Windows M.
Christina Stolze <christinastolze@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 3:57 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Yes. I continue to use Windows key m. For me, it isn't worth the bother of
getting used to a new command. If you want to use the other command try it.
I prefer to just press windows m more than once if necessary. And no
problems will occur if you press Windows key m more than one time. As I
said yesterday, if you want to use Windows key m, you can issue the command
twice in quick succession.

Gene

From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 2:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

Can you use Windows D, when you want to leave a file open and Alt Tab back
to it when needed?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


I have noticed this behavior as well. Windows key-M does not always move
focus to the desktop in Windows 7 on the first try as it did in XP. I
sometimes have to execute it twice to focus on the desktop. But Windows
key-D always seems to move focus to the desktop right away. So what is the
real difference between these two keystroke commands, anyway?

Gerald



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke

This is a known problem. I have to issue the command Windows key m twice
almost every time I want to return to the desktop. If you want to avoid the
problem, just issue the command twice quickly instead of once. I have the
problem in Windows 7 and I've seen others discuss it as well. I wouldn't be
surprised if many users in Windows 7 and higher have this problem.

Gene

From: TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:33 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Question about the Windows m keystroke


Hi all,

I do a lot of alt tabbing between windows, so I like to have my desktop only
show up when I hit Windows plus m. However, in the last couple of days, the
first time I hit windows key plus m, it is taking me to a place where it
just says start. I have to do it a second time to get to the desktop.



I thought this might be a keyboard issue, so I went and bought a new
keyboard, but it hasn't changed anything. *sigh*



Any suggestions?



TerriLynne


Re: Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Carlos
 

But does that actually stop them from being automatically installed eventually? As far as I know, you can only defer the automatic installation of updates.

----- Original Message -----
From: "enes saribas" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


hi,
actually, you can set updates to notify for install in windows 10 pro via the group policy editor

On 9/3/2015 7:25 PM, Carlos wrote:
Although I suppose in theory you could disable the service itself which would certainly stop updates altogether, but that is of course not recommended.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Mostly, weather you wait or not, just be aware of the biggest issues that us using screenreaders may have in 10. Gene and others have pointed it out, several times that some of the versions do not allow you to turn off having updates download and install, automatically. This means, that if for what ever reason, an update is going to cause you an issue with NVDA, you're gonna get that update and hopefully, find a way to either uninstall the problematic update or find a workaround. If memory serves, it's only the versions below professional that don't allow turning off updating, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Please forgive if this has already been mentioned here in this thread specifically, I couldn't remember.

On 9/2/2015 2:58 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
gust-30-2015.mp3







Thanks,

<mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com> Matt.from.florida@gmail.com



From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica








Re: for TC Charter IMAP

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Going to assume that this is in response to my message on the ports and such for configuring charter. If so, and if you've managed to track down or have access to what information is necessary for configuring IMAP inside thunderbird, feel free to send it over. As soon as I can find or get what ports are required, I can write up some directions on how to set it up for you.
Take care.

On 9/4/2015 10:37 PM, Bill Koppelmann wrote:
Hi tc,
whenever you get to this is just fine, it seems that you're just the guy to help me with this, even if you don't know how to deal with thunderbird, the information that is asked for is similar I believe, so that's all I need, I think.
Bill K.


Re: Should I upgrade to windows 10?

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,
actually, you can set updates to notify for install in windows 10 pro via the group policy editor

On 9/3/2015 7:25 PM, Carlos wrote:
Although I suppose in theory you could disable the service itself which would certainly stop updates altogether, but that is of course not recommended.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Mostly, weather you wait or not, just be aware of the biggest issues that us using screenreaders may have in 10. Gene and others have pointed it out, several times that some of the versions do not allow you to turn off having updates download and install, automatically. This means, that if for what ever reason, an update is going to cause you an issue with NVDA, you're gonna get that update and hopefully, find a way to either uninstall the problematic update or find a workaround. If memory serves, it's only the versions below professional that don't allow turning off updating, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Please forgive if this has already been mentioned here in this thread specifically, I couldn't remember.

On 9/2/2015 2:58 PM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
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Thanks,

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From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica






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