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Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Matt
 

No it is done thru the email list site.


Thanks,
Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:42 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

How do you set something for no mail? Probably that is according to your
mail, mine being Outlook 2013.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:53 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful
benefit. If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much
or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to
"no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on
content from the primary list.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I
have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup. I agree that the excessive
chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but
having it available certainly can't hurt. One of the differences between a
standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent
group can subscribe to a subgroup. I hope that everyone understands that as
much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I
will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general
chatting/humor on the primary list. Of course, part of my reasoning for
creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment
so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator. In my
opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind
up irritating those who are required to follow them.

The subscription address for the chat list is
TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io>
and the posting address is
TechTalk+chat@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk+chat@groups.io>


Re: tech problems galore!

Blaster <blaster@...>
 

Well said, If it ain't broke - Don't fix it, to steal a quote. and quit noshing on cheetos while surfing the net.


Blaster


Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Carlos
 

It is not client dependant. You have to go to the homepage which in this case would be
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/TechTalk
for the primary group or
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/TechTalk+chat
for the chat subgroup. Then you have to sign in with your Email address and assign a password. At that point you can log in to the site, select the
"Subscription"
link, and then choose the
"No Email"
radio button. Most list providers also have mail commands which you can send to perform such actions much more quickly. Although I could not find the list of commands for groups.io so if anyone either has the list or knows where they can be found, I would appreciate it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk


How do you set something for no mail? Probably that is according to your
mail, mine being Outlook 2013.

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:53 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful
benefit. If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much
or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to
"no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on
content from the primary list.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I
have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup. I agree that the excessive
chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but
having it available certainly can't hurt. One of the differences between a
standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent
group can subscribe to a subgroup. I hope that everyone understands that as
much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I
will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general
chatting/humor on the primary list. Of course, part of my reasoning for
creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment
so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator. In my
opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind
up irritating those who are required to follow them.

The subscription address for the chat list is
TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io>
and the posting address is
TechTalk+chat@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk+chat@groups.io>





Re: tech problems galore!

 

I constantly wear off the letters & numbers from the keys because of
how long I keep my keyboards. I kept my last keyboard for at least 5
or 6 years. The only reason I got a new one was there was a really
good sale on the same kind but a newer model of the keyboard I use I
had and my sister blatantly said that she couldn't use my keyboard
because it didn't have any labeling left. For me I'm picky about my
keyboards and how they feel when I type on them. Keeping things clean
and taking care of what I have is a habit I got into a long time ago.
I wish I could share the video I saw years and years ago that is a
recording of a teenager going ballistic over a game. He was yelling @
the screen, I guess it was cussing as it was in German. Lol I guess he
lost because he went all “hulk smash” on his keyboard, breaking it
into so many pieces that the keys were flying everywhere. It was quite
a thing to behold. I can totally believe the specs about pc repairs
being because of enraged owners. People don’t have respect for things
anymore and go for the easiest route.

Melissa

On 9/1/15, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
I read an article a couple of years ago which indicated that the largest
percentage of PCs taken in for repairs were damaged by enraged owners.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blaster" <blaster@samobile.net>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] tech problems galore!


I totally agree. However many people don't take care of anything in our
disposable culture so it's not surprising to see people mistreating there
pc's. I've witnessed people pounding keys out of grustration as I posted
earlier. They don't look at problems as puzzles that can be solved, they
take it personally, Like it's an attack on their intelect. Raised voices,
raised blood pressure followed by humiliating defeat.
By the time they swallow their pride and ask for help their at their wits

end.

It's really something,
Blaster






Re: using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Carolyn Arnold
 

Will check that tomorrow - shutting down now.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:10 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

I don't know much about Word.
Other members may be able to answer the question.

Also, you may get the answer by doing a google search for open word
documents in navigation pane. If you find the answer, the information you
get will likely be for sighted users but if you don't know how to do what is
described from the keyboard, you can ask here and give the link to the
article you are looking at.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
day or two ago and typing a word that should have yielded results didn't.
it appears that if a search doesn't find something, you have to actually
look through the settings to see what you find.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:14 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Funny, if you type Block into the search field it says there are no matches.
Marie


From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:06 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Hi Marie,
The setting is labeled
"Block Quotes Identify Start and End"

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Gene I use Jaws and am pretty familiar with the quick settings. I also use
WLM in HTML mode and I can find nothing about block quote in the settings?
Marie


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:36 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

When you are in a message body, open quick settings with JAWS key v.
Look down the settings, and change what you want to change. When you find
something you want to change, such as block quotes, use the space bar to
move through the available settings. You may repeat the settings as often
as you want by continuing to press the space bar. Once you have changed
whatever settings you want to change for as many items as you wish, press
enter to save the changes and return you to the program window you were
previously in.

Your home computer may not be indicating bloc quotes because you are not
reading mail as html at home. On your friends computer, messages are being
read as html and you are in the virtual pc cursor.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: joanne <mailto:grandma1323@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:21 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
<mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

I have a second Jaws question. On the computer I'm using Jaws is saying
block quote, and the person who helped me set mine up on my own computers
set it to not say this. I thought it might be in graphics or attributes but
not having luck getting rid of it. I hope someone can help.

Joanne


Re: tech problems galore!

Gene
 

I'll modify what I said in my first message and change my opinion somewhat.
 
I don't know enough about fans to know what maintenance regarding them may be advisable.  I would think it would depend in part on the environment the computer is in.  Is the computer on the floor or on a table?  Is the floor or table clean?  Is it near a window that is often opened or not?  While certain considerations of the sort might apply to keyboareds, such as are they near an open window often, and I may have overlooked such considerations in my answer, my view is that it's probably better not to clean a keyboard internally unless it starts exhibiting behavior indicating it is a good idea.  Fans and free ventalation of the computer may be another story.
 
Also, to further refine and alter my last message, it might depend on whether someone has had experience cleaning keyboards internally.  I doubt that most users have any experience of doing so and so I say, leave the keyboard alone internally if it works. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Beth
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] tech problems galore!

Trust me, I'm guilty of it myself. I try to fix things, but yeah. If
it's an expert problem, I need an expert to fix it. And cleaning the pc
may have made my old Dell last me longer, but dedusting fans to me
sounded like a pain in the butt.
BEth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/1/2015 8:23 PM, Blaster wrote:
> I totally agree. However many people don't take care of anything in
> our disposable culture so it's not surprising to see people
> mistreating there pc's. I've witnessed people pounding keys out of
> grustration as I posted earlier. They don't look at problems as
> puzzles that can be solved, they take it personally, Like it's an
> attack on their intelect. Raised voices, raised blood pressure
> followed by humiliating defeat.
> By the time they swallow their pride and ask for help their at their
> wits end.
>
> It's really something,
> Blaster
>
>
>




Re: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

Carolyn Arnold
 

That is so funny. I sent the hello to some Texas buddies. They loved it!

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 7:20 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

Hi Carlos,

A slight modification to:

I'm fliiii juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ing! SPLAT!

I'm fli,iii juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ing! SPLAT!

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only


LOL this was posted on another list and I just had to share.

weeee juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas splash!
I'm fliiii juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ing! SPLAT!
A juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ?al!

I have no idea why those text strings cause Eloquence to do what it does.
Someone discovered it and tweeted it.


Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Carolyn Arnold
 

How do you set something for no mail? Probably that is according to your
mail, mine being Outlook 2013.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:53 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful
benefit. If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much
or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to
"no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on
content from the primary list.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I
have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup. I agree that the excessive
chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but
having it available certainly can't hurt. One of the differences between a
standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent
group can subscribe to a subgroup. I hope that everyone understands that as
much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I
will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general
chatting/humor on the primary list. Of course, part of my reasoning for
creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment
so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator. In my
opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind
up irritating those who are required to follow them.

The subscription address for the chat list is
TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io>
and the posting address is
TechTalk+chat@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk+chat@groups.io>


Re: tech problems galore!

Carlos
 

I read an article a couple of years ago which indicated that the largest percentage of PCs taken in for repairs were damaged by enraged owners.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Blaster" <blaster@samobile.net>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] tech problems galore!


I totally agree. However many people don't take care of anything in our disposable culture so it's not surprising to see people mistreating there pc's. I've witnessed people pounding keys out of grustration as I posted earlier. They don't look at problems as puzzles that can be solved, they take it personally, Like it's an attack on their intelect. Raised voices, raised blood pressure followed by humiliating defeat.
By the time they swallow their pride and ask for help their at their wits end.

It's really something,
Blaster


Re: tech problems galore!

Beth
 

Trust me, I'm guilty of it myself. I try to fix things, but yeah. If it's an expert problem, I need an expert to fix it. And cleaning the pc may have made my old Dell last me longer, but dedusting fans to me sounded like a pain in the butt.
BEth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/1/2015 8:23 PM, Blaster wrote:
I totally agree. However many people don't take care of anything in our disposable culture so it's not surprising to see people mistreating there pc's. I've witnessed people pounding keys out of grustration as I posted earlier. They don't look at problems as puzzles that can be solved, they take it personally, Like it's an attack on their intelect. Raised voices, raised blood pressure followed by humiliating defeat.
By the time they swallow their pride and ask for help their at their wits end.

It's really something,
Blaster


Re: tech problems galore!

Blaster <blaster@...>
 

I totally agree. However many people don't take care of anything in our disposable culture so it's not surprising to see people mistreating there pc's. I've witnessed people pounding keys out of grustration as I posted earlier. They don't look at problems as puzzles that can be solved, they take it personally, Like it's an attack on their intelect. Raised voices, raised blood pressure followed by humiliating defeat.
By the time they swallow their pride and ask for help their at their wits end.

It's really something,
Blaster


Re: Chat subgroup for Tech Talk

Stan Bobbitt
 

I’m good for either way. It only takes milliseconds to press the delete key ....
 
Stan B

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

This is definitely a good idea.

 

Barb

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.

 

The subscription address for the chat list is

and the posting address is


Re: tech problems galore!

Beth
 

Yeah, that is not much. Probably at Walmart.
Beth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,
Cell: 720-435-7407
Skype: denverqueen0920
Ms_denverqueen on Twitter
Instagram: denverqueen0920
Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920
Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/1/2015 7:09 PM, Blaster wrote:
It's only about 4 bucks, give it a try.

Blaster


Re: tech problems galore!

Gene
 

If keys work properly and have good action, why fool around taking them apart?  I can see cleaning the outside of the keys, the part you come in contact with but why do anything else un;less the keys begin to exhibit behavior that indacates internal cleaning is necessary?  Using common sense such as not using the keyboard when your hands are dirty or have food on them and, in the case of a laptop, closing it when not in use should, in my opinion, keep keys internally clean for years.  I wouldn't be surprised if they remain clean enough to work properly for the life of the computer.  I have never had a desktop keyboard misbehave because internal cleaning was necessary and my only laptop is now something like four or five years old and the keys function properly. 
 
That's my opinion and it is based on my experience, as one user.  If people believe that my experience is too small a sample to generalize from, that's fine and people are free to disagree.  But I am a very strong proponent of the if it ain't broke cliché.  I wonder how many people cause unnecessary keyboard problems cleaning something that works perfectly in the first place. 
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Blaster
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] tech problems galore!

Check Carlos's posts for cleaning the keys on your laptop. There are
delicate pieces that can be damaged if your not careful. Not to mention
the little rubber pimple that gives the key it's bounce. It's the first
thing that pops out when you lift the key and it's tricky to handle.
Popping the keys is really for replacing lost or damaged keys.

Blaster



Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

This sounds like a good decision. And if the chat dwindles, you can delete the sub-group. Should satisfy everyone but of course that is impossible. I have high hopes for this list and think it will be a good one.
Marie
 
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk
 
Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is


Re: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

Matt
 

I sure you will weigh the facts as you monitor things and make the correct decision !


Thanks,
Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:09 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

There seem to be a couple of basic opinions on this subject as I expected so I guess we'll wait a few days to see if the list settles down before making a final decision. Hopefully those who might be less tolerant of the random chatting will at least stick around until this is resolved. I have concerns about the chat subgroup as well, but at the same time I don't want to alienate those members who are here for technical assistance which is after all the primary focus of the group.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Hammitt" <mjmarney@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only


I know I am coming late to the party so to speak, but here are my thoughts.
I agree that there is some hub-bub from the BT issue and that this list is new and I'm pretty sure things will calm down. I don't think that creating a new list is the thing to do. Another list has a "sister" list that is mainly for chatting and I was thinking it would not be so ... chatty. I left because there was a back and forth that went like this how was your day?
it was fine, I had a nice dinner.
What did you have for dinner?
a bunch of people tell what they had for dinner Then it was 1 or 2 word chit chat answers for what seemed like a gajillion messages. That is most likely not the norm, but just that scene sticks in my head. :( I like chat, but not like that. This coming from someone who, before they lost their site, was always in a chat room and had 3 or 4 im apps going, plus ventrillo. I'm interested in starting up chatting with like minded people again, but not like that.

Instead of creating a new list perhaps if the thread is heading towards chat maybe change the subject and add an O O C (out of
character) to it so that the original thread is still there for the people who don't want to deal with chat. The only issue I would think is if the O O C thread turns back into adding some tech information.
Which maybe someone could add it to the original thread or something.... That would take havingpeople being dedicated to that and some rules regarding posting, but is just an idea.

Melissa


On 9/1/15, Cristóbal <crismunoz54@gmail.com> wrote:
Too much traffic as is. I join these lists for answers and feedback,
not necessarily for social hour. This goes back to the earlier
messages about the overwhelming number of emails. I’ll pass on the chit-chat.



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:27 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only



I had actually considered creating a subgroup for this purpose which
is a feature of groups.io, but I wasn't sure how many members would
bother subscribing. Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. I am
willing to go with the majority vote.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only



I'm raising this for discussion. This is something that I think
deserves serious consideration for the development of the list.



It may be that there should be two lists, one mainly for discussion of
technical problems and another for more general discussion. I think
many potential list members may leave the list or not join if the list
becomes known as a chat and tech list. This list is so much turning
into a chat list that it may not be properly characterized as a tech
list. This isn't a question of whether some members like chat. It's
a question of what kind of list this should be and that a large number
of busy people may not join.
I
would think that having a chat list where topics started on this list
can be moved would make this list significantly more attractive and
useful for many people who would not join or remain on this list if it
is mostly a chat list with some tech discussion. That is what this
list appears to be turning into. .



Gene






Re: tech problems galore!

Blaster <blaster@...>
 

Check Carlos's posts for cleaning the keys on your laptop. There are delicate pieces that can be damaged if your not careful. Not to mention the little rubber pimple that gives the key it's bounce. It's the first thing that pops out when you lift the key and it's tricky to handle. Popping the keys is really for replacing lost or damaged keys.

Blaster


Re: Chat subgroup for Tech Talk

Matt
 

Correct !

 

 

 

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

This is definitely a good idea.

 

Barb

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.

 

The subscription address for the chat list is

and the posting address is


Re: Chat subgroup for Tech Talk

Matt
 

Yes, use to be on one cannot remember what the list is now. But it I think had both a chat room with no bar holds on it and a weekend OT on the list but with much more rules in place that somethings was OT regardless. The no hold bar list was anything goes and this warning was given out before the members of the main list was able to subscribe to the sub list. But all this is blur as it has been years since I was on the list that did that.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:45 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

I'm willing to consider almost anything within reason to keep the list useful but still flexible if enough members support it.  That is another interesting idea.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:40 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

On another list I belong to, there's off topic weekend where we can discuss andy and everything from Friday evening until Sunday evening.  We just put otw in the subject line and go from there.  I sent a message about this to the BT list owner and he never commented on it.  We might try something like that here.



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 1, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

That is a good thought and may be a reasonable compromise Gene.  I new there were good reasons why I invited you.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

This is definitely a good idea.

 

Barb

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.

 

The subscription address for the chat list is

and the posting address is


Re: tech problems galore!

Blaster <blaster@...>
 

It's only about 4 bucks, give it a try.

Blaster