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Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Carlos
 

I'm willing to consider almost anything within reason to keep the list useful but still flexible if enough members support it.  That is another interesting idea.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

On another list I belong to, there's off topic weekend where we can discuss andy and everything from Friday evening until Sunday evening.  We just put otw in the subject line and go from there.  I sent a message about this to the BT list owner and he never commented on it.  We might try something like that here.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

That is a good thought and may be a reasonable compromise Gene.  I new there were good reasons why I invited you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

This is definitely a good idea.
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is


Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Gene
 

I should have said this:
Thank you.  As the new car said to the owner when he drove it off the lot, I depreciate that.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Thank you. 
 
Gene

From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

That is a good thought and may be a reasonable compromise Gene.  I new there were good reasons why I invited you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

This is definitely a good idea.
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is


Re: Thinking of NVDA To Tame Column Headings in Thunderbird

Gene
 

If you don't want newer features, you could go back to an olderversion of Thunderbird that is set up as you want.  Don't forget to turn off updates after you install the old version.  I'm not sure this is necessary, but disconnecting from the internet during installation and staying disconnected while you turn off updates may keep the program from trying to update before you get a chance to change the setting.
 
If you want to know how to find old versions, ask here.  I checked once but I'd have to check again.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:29 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Thinking of NVDA To Tame Column Headings in Thunderbird

Hi, All:

I've used Thunderbird and POP3 for maybe three years since I migrated to
64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium since it has a couple of features I like
that the
other e-mail clients I tried didn't. The difficulty in later versions of
TB to move column headings such as whether threads are open or collapsed
to the
beginning of the message list view to the beginning of headings such as
subject date etc. is one of the things about Thunderbird that I don't
like. Unfortunately,
when I made a new folder to filter mail to for this list, the
open/closed heading is near the very end of the headings after date and
time instead of the
beginning as it is with a number of my other folders.  The inconsistency
is very disconcerting and the item I found in the view menu under
threads to expand
all threads doesn't seem to be consistent and it seems like when I
delete a message from the body of the message it will work as expected
for a couple
of messages then , I am asked if I want to delete the whole thread and I
have to expand it in the message list to delete that message and
continue with
the thread.  I couldn't find anything in options or account settings in
the menus that looked like it might help and I'd like to "tame" columns
in Thunderbird
38.2.0 permanently if I can so they will be in the order I want.

I think I remember that someone on another list said that NVDA sometimes
works better with TB than JAWS 16 does and, if this is correct, I
thought I would
try it.  Does anyone know how much of an immersion into NVDA it would
take to be able to move the heading columns in TB?

For a temporary measure, does anyone know of a solution to get all
threads in a folder to stay expanded?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret




Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Juanita Martin <jordmartin@...>
 

On another list I belong to, there's off topic weekend where we can discuss andy and everything from Friday evening until Sunday evening.  We just put otw in the subject line and go from there.  I sent a message about this to the BT list owner and he never commented on it.  We might try something like that here.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 1, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

That is a good thought and may be a reasonable compromise Gene.  I new there were good reasons why I invited you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

This is definitely a good idea.
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is


Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Gene
 

Thank you. 
 
Gene

From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

That is a good thought and may be a reasonable compromise Gene.  I new there were good reasons why I invited you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

This is definitely a good idea.
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is


Thinking of NVDA To Tame Column Headings in Thunderbird

Margaret Thomas <iluvtoread@...>
 

Hi, All:

I've used Thunderbird and POP3 for maybe three years since I migrated to 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium since it has a couple of features I like that the
other e-mail clients I tried didn't. The difficulty in later versions of TB to move column headings such as whether threads are open or collapsed to the
beginning of the message list view to the beginning of headings such as subject date etc. is one of the things about Thunderbird that I don't like. Unfortunately,
when I made a new folder to filter mail to for this list, the open/closed heading is near the very end of the headings after date and time instead of the
beginning as it is with a number of my other folders. The inconsistency is very disconcerting and the item I found in the view menu under threads to expand
all threads doesn't seem to be consistent and it seems like when I delete a message from the body of the message it will work as expected for a couple
of messages then , I am asked if I want to delete the whole thread and I have to expand it in the message list to delete that message and continue with
the thread. I couldn't find anything in options or account settings in the menus that looked like it might help and I'd like to "tame" columns in Thunderbird
38.2.0 permanently if I can so they will be in the order I want.

I think I remember that someone on another list said that NVDA sometimes works better with TB than JAWS 16 does and, if this is correct, I thought I would
try it. Does anyone know how much of an immersion into NVDA it would take to be able to move the heading columns in TB?

For a temporary measure, does anyone know of a solution to get all threads in a folder to stay expanded?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Margaret


Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Carlos
 

That is a good thought and may be a reasonable compromise Gene.  I new there were good reasons why I invited you.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

This is definitely a good idea.
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is


Re: using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Gene
 

As I understand it, it is used for an extended quote.  for example, if you were writing a term paper and were quoting something that went on for many lines, you would use a block quote.  I don't know if there are other uses.  It is my impression, and it's just an impression, that block quotes are often used for no reason other than, perhaps appearance and not as they are intended. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

But what is the purpose of block quote?

Best from,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Hi Joanne & Marie,
 
To turn off blocked quotes, try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center, & press, control, shift, + D, to open Settings
Center default all applications.  You can open the Settings Center by
pressing, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard,
or, press, Insert / Jaws key + F2, to open the Run Jaws Manager, then arrow
down to Settings Center & press enter.
2. Arrow down to, Web / HTML / PDFs, press right arrow to open.
3. Down Arrow to, Reading, right arrow to open.
4. Down arrow to, Indicate Block Quotations, & press the spacebar to uncheck
this checkbox.
5. Tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, press enter to save your
change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Were you able to find it?

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying
block quote

Got it and thanks.
Marie


From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:22 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying
block quote

The option is only available if you open the Quick Settings dialog
while an HTML capable window/control has focus.  So if you open it while
either your browser or Email client's preview pane set to view as HTML have
focus, it should be available.

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from
saying block quote

Funny, if you type Block into the search field it says there
are no matches.
Marie


From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:06 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from
saying block quote

Hi Marie,
The setting is labeled
"Block Quotes Identify Start and End"

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it
from saying block quote

Gene I use Jaws and am pretty familiar with the
quick settings. I also use WLM in HTML mode and I can find nothing about
block quote in the settings?
Marie


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:36 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it
from saying block quote

When you are in a message body, open quick settings
with JAWS key v.  Look down the settings, and change what you want to
change.  When you find something you want to change, such as block quotes,
use the space bar to move through the available settings.  You may repeat
the settings as often as you want by continuing to press the space bar.
Once you have changed whatever settings you want to change for as many items
as you wish, press enter to save the changes and return you to the program
window you were previously in. 

Your home computer may not be indicating bloc quotes
because you are not reading mail as html at home.  On your friends computer,
messages are being read as html and you are in the virtual pc cursor.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: joanne <mailto:grandma1323@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:21 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it
from saying block quote

I have a second Jaws question.  On the computer I'm
using Jaws is saying block quote, and the person who helped me set mine up
on my own computers set it to not say this.  I thought it might be in
graphics or attributes but not having luck getting rid of it.  I hope
someone can help.

Joanne






Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Gene
 

Another advantage is that if a topic turns into too much chat after starting out as a technology topic, you, Carlos can ask that it be taken to the chat list and it can be done without causing problems or resentment.  On the blindtech list, when the owner or moderators asked that something be taken off list, it was an absurd request and was tantamount to closing the thread.  Where was the thread supposed to go?  No provision was available.  That caused needless resentment.  I suggested in the past that Blindtech have a chat group associated with it but the owner and moderators refused to consider the idea. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

This is definitely a good idea.
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is


Re: What happened

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
With all due respect I get plenty done in a day. The email lists I'm on usually result in 700 messages a day when things are high traffic. And as has been stated before through the use of well thought out email filters or rules and organizing by conversation or thread depending on what the email set up calls them I can breeze through all those messages in 15 minutes tops no problem at all. there's no need to read through every blessed message and if one misses something important by accident there's always google for searching list archives or one can always respectfully ask again. Since list membership is fluid there are always new people who don't mind either learning and benefiting from question asked or who don't mind helping when they can.
So you see it really isn't as daunting or all consuming as one might think. Obviously it isn't for everyone I'm merely pointing out that it can very easily be managed.
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: Marie
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:02 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

I'm with Carlos and only 3 lists, one of which is near death. How can you
get anything else done?? I'm retired and don't have time for all those
lists!
Marie


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:00 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Oh my goodness, 44 lists? I'm not exactly sure what would happen to my
poor client, but it would most likely involve lots of loud explodie
noises from my computer, probably some screeching and blubbering from me
and who knows what else.
Guess it does have me just slightly interested in how many messages
Thunderbird could actually hold though. Hmm!
Consider me to be officially amazed. rofllmao
Tc.

On 9/1/2015 5:49 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
Hi,
Oh come on you need about 24 more to catch up to me at 44. You can do it I know you can (laughing lots and lots. Just kidding.
And you're right not all are high traffic so that does make it a bit better (smiles).
Happy list participating one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:25 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,
Well, I have no filters, and am on about 20 or so odd lists.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Frost" <robini71@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 03:23:13 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,
Awww Stan's just a wee babe I've got him beat I now have 44
filters set up
at the gmail website to handle the different addresses of
blindness related
email lists.
I'm a detail chaser and like to be in the know so I'm willing to
sift
through the riffraff to mine for treasured gold of wisdom gained
or the
chance to be a help to someone.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Wow 11? That must definitely be an impressive amount of mail.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Bobbitt" <sbobbitt@triad.rr.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Lol, TechTalk is my 11th list, granted at least 3 of them are
nearly
inactive ... it gets a bit hectic toward the end of the week
and over the
weekend when I'm out trying to earn a nickel and don't have time
to wade
through all those emails ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:42 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

I can certainly see Flor's point and it is really up to the
individual to
decide to how many lists they are subscribed and if it is too
much. LOL
see
my previous comments about not personally subscribing to many
lists at
once.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@gmail.com
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened


Hi Flor,
All these things are a personal preference. It can be looked
how you
mean. But those of us who are going through hundreds and
hundreds of
messages, with an email client that supports no filters, this
can be
tedious. I just deal with it, though, I know how life could be
easier.
But then again, why do I subscribe, if I can't do it? So yeah,
its really
a personal preference, in my opinion.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:23:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Rajmund,
What myou may consider unnecessary, may be considered needful by
the
poster
who believes that they are in urgent need of help, or where the
problem
being written about is a difficult one to solve unless or until
one has
sought differing perspectives on how it might be solved. (Think
of how
it
was with a kernel32 error preventing a program from running Easy
enough
to
fix when you know the answer to it which fits tyour symtpoms
precisely.
But
if you don't know, you can't run this program on which your
happiness
with
your computer depends. .) And you may nopt be able to describe
the
situation
accurately enough yourself.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:55 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi Joseph,
My nightmare is to delete the exact same thing 6 damn times.
And, when
the
person sends something in response, they send it to like 3
lists. So
that
makes it 8 more messages, than necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 10:34 pm
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] What happened



Hi,
For me, the worst nightmare is when someone cross-posts the same
message
to
multiple lists (I did ask people on the lists I moderate to not
cross-post,
or if they have to do that, either use BCC or ask the mods
first).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:24 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened

Hi,

Here's the thing. If I send something to this list, and the
BlindTech
list,
but I only put one list into the to field at the time, there's
literally
literally nothing the admins can do. If there are more than one
lists at
the
time, that's different.

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts <donald.roberts99@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Monday, 31 August 2015 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] What happened



Although I am still subscribed, I got very frustrated with the
moderation
and sometimes the lack thereof. I very much dislike the fact
that there
are
more and more persons on Blindtech who are cross posting all
over the
place.
It is not unusual to see the same message no fewer than five or
six times
on
various lists. And I hope that those cross posts do not show up
here.
This
prompts a question. Is there a utility which will somehow
delete cross
posted messages? Setting up filters to do this would be a huge
undertaking.


Don Roberts



On 8/31/2015 12:47 PM, Carlos wrote:

Welcome to the list Cristsbal. Indeed it is active. We
currently have
about 98 members.

LOL let's just say that I had a difference of opinion in the art
of list
management with the owner/moderators of BlindTech.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristsbal
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:40 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] What happened


Wow, I don't' check the lists for a couple of days and
apparently
everything goes poopoo.
So is this list actually active?
All sorts of drama on BlindTech.




Sent from a Braille Sense







Sent from a Braille Sense






























Re: tech problems galore!

 

Years back when I had a need to clean my keyboards I would just use a
damp--not soaking--warm wash cloth to clean up my keyboard. This was
after I popped all of the keys off and clean each key with the
washcloth and either vaccuumed out or brushed out the base part of the
keyboard. Doing this with sight was infinitly a lot easier than when I
did it for my last keyboard which is an ergo/microsoft wave keyboard.
So, yeah, that took a bit to get everything back into the right places
and I would totally do it differently now....
Can you pop out laptop keys the same way? I've never owned a laptop.

Melissa

On 9/1/15, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote:
Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

There are also small brushes which can be purchased specifically for this
purpose.
The little brushes that come with electric razors will work, too.




Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

MamaPeach <mamapeach67@...>
 

I wish Freelists.org offered that. I would move my list but I have moved it a couple of times and don't think I need to move it again for a while.

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Hammitt
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:10 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Oh, now that is a good idea. I didn't know about the sub group thing.
I rather like that bit.

Melissa

On 9/1/15, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@comcast.net> wrote:
This is definitely a good idea.

Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk


It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful
benefit. If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much
or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to
"no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on
content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk


Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I
have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup. I agree that the excessive
chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but
having it available certainly can't hurt. One of the differences between a
standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent
group can subscribe to a subgroup. I hope that everyone understands that as
much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I
will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general
chatting/humor on the primary list. Of course, part of my reasoning for
creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment
so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator. In my
opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind
up irritating those who are required to follow them.

The subscription address for the chat list is
TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io
and the posting address is
TechTalk+chat@groups.io


Re: using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Gene
 

I don't know much about Word. 
Other members may be able to answer the question. 
 
Also, you may get the answer by doing a google search for open word documents in navigation pane.  If you find the answer, the information you get will likely be for sighted users but if you don't know how to do what is described from the keyboard, you can ask here and give the link to the article you are looking at. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
day or two ago and typing a word that should have yielded results didn't.
it appears that if a search doesn't find something, you have to actually
look through the settings to see what you find. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:14 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Funny, if you type Block into the search field it says there are no matches.
Marie
 
 
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:06 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote
 
Hi Marie,
The setting is labeled
"Block Quotes Identify Start and End"

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying
block quote

Gene I use Jaws and am pretty familiar with the quick settings. I
also use WLM in HTML mode and I can find nothing about block quote in the
settings?
Marie


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:36 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying
block quote

When you are in a message body, open quick settings with JAWS key v.
Look down the settings, and change what you want to change.  When you find
something you want to change, such as block quotes, use the space bar to
move through the available settings.  You may repeat the settings as often
as you want by continuing to press the space bar.  Once you have changed
whatever settings you want to change for as many items as you wish, press
enter to save the changes and return you to the program window you were
previously in. 

Your home computer may not be indicating bloc quotes because you are
not reading mail as html at home.  On your friends computer, messages are
being read as html and you are in the virtual pc cursor.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: joanne <mailto:grandma1323@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:21 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block
quote

I have a second Jaws question.  On the computer I'm using Jaws is
saying block quote, and the person who helped me set mine up on my own
computers set it to not say this.  I thought it might be in graphics or
attributes but not having luck getting rid of it.  I hope someone can help.

Joanne






Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

 

Oh, now that is a good idea. I didn't know about the sub group thing.
I rather like that bit.

Melissa

On 9/1/15, Barb O'Connor <broconnor1972@comcast.net> wrote:
This is definitely a good idea.

Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk


It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful
benefit. If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much
or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to
"no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on
content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk


Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I
have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup. I agree that the excessive
chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but
having it available certainly can't hurt. One of the differences between a
standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent
group can subscribe to a subgroup. I hope that everyone understands that as
much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I
will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general
chatting/humor on the primary list. Of course, part of my reasoning for
creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment
so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator. In my
opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind
up irritating those who are required to follow them.

The subscription address for the chat list is
TechTalk+chat+subscribe@groups.io
and the posting address is
TechTalk+chat@groups.io


Re: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

Carlos
 

There seem to be a couple of basic opinions on this subject as I expected so
I guess we'll wait a few days to see if the list settles down before making
a final decision. Hopefully those who might be less tolerant of the random
chatting will at least stick around until this is resolved. I have concerns
about the chat subgroup as well, but at the same time I don't want to
alienate those members who are here for technical assistance which is after
all the primary focus of the group.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Hammitt" <mjmarney@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only


I know I am coming late to the party so to speak, but here are my thoughts.
I agree that there is some hub-bub from the BT issue and that this
list is new and I'm pretty sure things will calm down. I don't think
that creating a new list is the thing to do. Another list has a
"sister" list that is mainly for chatting and I was thinking it would
not be so ... chatty. I left because there was a back and forth that
went like this
how was your day?
it was fine, I had a nice dinner.
What did you have for dinner?
a bunch of people tell what they had for dinner
Then it was 1 or 2 word chit chat answers for what seemed like a
gajillion messages. That is most likely not the norm, but just that
scene sticks in my head. :( I like chat, but not like that. This
coming from someone who, before they lost their site, was always in a
chat room and had 3 or 4 im apps going, plus ventrillo. I'm interested
in starting up chatting with like minded people again, but not like
that.

Instead of creating a new list perhaps if the thread is heading
towards chat maybe change the subject and add an O O C (out of
character) to it so that the original thread is still there for the
people who don't want to deal with chat. The only issue I would think
is if the O O C thread turns back into adding some tech information.
Which maybe someone could add it to the original thread or
something.... That would take havingpeople being dedicated to that and
some rules regarding posting, but is just an idea.

Melissa


On 9/1/15, Cristóbal <crismunoz54@gmail.com> wrote:
Too much traffic as is. I join these lists for answers and feedback, not
necessarily for social hour. This goes back to the earlier messages about
the overwhelming number of emails. I’ll pass on the chit-chat.



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:27 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only



I had actually considered creating a subgroup for this purpose which is a
feature of groups.io, but I wasn't sure how many members would bother
subscribing. Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. I am willing to
go with the majority vote.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only



I'm raising this for discussion. This is something that I think deserves
serious consideration for the development of the list.



It may be that there should be two lists, one mainly for discussion of
technical problems and another for more general discussion. I think many
potential list members may leave the list or not join if the list becomes
known as a chat and tech list. This list is so much turning into a chat
list that it may not be properly characterized as a tech list. This isn't
a
question of whether some members like chat. It's a question of what kind
of
list this should be and that a large number of busy people may not join.
I
would think that having a chat list where topics started on this list can
be
moved would make this list significantly more attractive and useful for
many
people who would not join or remain on this list if it is mostly a chat
list
with some tech discussion. That is what this list appears to be turning
into. .



Gene






Re: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

 

I know I am coming late to the party so to speak, but here are my thoughts.
I agree that there is some hub-bub from the BT issue and that this
list is new and I'm pretty sure things will calm down. I don't think
that creating a new list is the thing to do. Another list has a
"sister" list that is mainly for chatting and I was thinking it would
not be so ... chatty. I left because there was a back and forth that
went like this
how was your day?
it was fine, I had a nice dinner.
What did you have for dinner?
a bunch of people tell what they had for dinner
Then it was 1 or 2 word chit chat answers for what seemed like a
gajillion messages. That is most likely not the norm, but just that
scene sticks in my head. :( I like chat, but not like that. This
coming from someone who, before they lost their site, was always in a
chat room and had 3 or 4 im apps going, plus ventrillo. I'm interested
in starting up chatting with like minded people again, but not like
that.

Instead of creating a new list perhaps if the thread is heading
towards chat maybe change the subject and add an O O C (out of
character) to it so that the original thread is still there for the
people who don't want to deal with chat. The only issue I would think
is if the O O C thread turns back into adding some tech information.
Which maybe someone could add it to the original thread or
something.... That would take havingpeople being dedicated to that and
some rules regarding posting, but is just an idea.

Melissa

On 9/1/15, Cristóbal <crismunoz54@gmail.com> wrote:
Too much traffic as is. I join these lists for answers and feedback, not
necessarily for social hour. This goes back to the earlier messages about
the overwhelming number of emails. I’ll pass on the chit-chat.



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:27 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only



I had actually considered creating a subgroup for this purpose which is a
feature of groups.io, but I wasn't sure how many members would bother
subscribing. Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. I am willing to
go with the majority vote.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only



I'm raising this for discussion. This is something that I think deserves
serious consideration for the development of the list.



It may be that there should be two lists, one mainly for discussion of
technical problems and another for more general discussion. I think many
potential list members may leave the list or not join if the list becomes
known as a chat and tech list. This list is so much turning into a chat
list that it may not be properly characterized as a tech list. This isn't
a
question of whether some members like chat. It's a question of what kind
of
list this should be and that a large number of busy people may not join. I
would think that having a chat list where topics started on this list can
be
moved would make this list significantly more attractive and useful for
many
people who would not join or remain on this list if it is mostly a chat
list
with some tech discussion. That is what this list appears to be turning
into. .



Gene






Re: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

Cristóbal
 

Too much traffic as is. I join these lists for answers and feedback, not necessarily for social hour. This goes back to the earlier messages about the overwhelming number of emails. I’ll pass on the chit-chat.

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:27 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

 

I had actually considered creating a subgroup for this purpose which is a feature of groups.io, but I wasn't sure how many members would bother subscribing.  Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.  I am willing to go with the majority vote.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

 

I'm raising this for discussion.  This is something that I think deserves serious consideration for the development of the list. 

 

It may be that there should be two lists, one mainly for discussion of technical problems and another for more general discussion.  I think many potential list members may leave the list or not join if the list becomes known as a chat and tech list.  This list is so much turning into a chat list that it may not be properly characterized as a tech list.  This isn't a question of whether some members like chat.  It's a question of what kind of list this should be and that a large number of busy people may not join.  I would think that having a chat list where topics started on this list can be moved would make this list significantly more attractive and useful for many people who would not join or remain on this list if it is mostly a chat list with some tech discussion.  That is what this list appears to be turning into.  . 

 

Gene

 


Re: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Carlos,
 
A slight modification to:
 
I'm fliiii juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ing! SPLAT!
 
I'm fli,iii juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ing! SPLAT!
 
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Fwd: Tech Humor - Eloquence Users Only

LOL this was posted on another list and I just had to share.
 
weeee juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas splash!
I'm fliiii juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ing! SPLAT!
A juarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ?al!
 
I have no idea why those text strings cause Eloquence to do what it does. Someone discovered it and tweeted it.


Re: using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Carolyn Arnold
 

But what is the purpose of block quote?

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 6:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Hi Joanne & Marie,

To turn off blocked quotes, try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center, & press, control, shift, + D, to open Settings
Center default all applications. You can open the Settings Center by
pressing, Insert / Jaws key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard,
or, press, Insert / Jaws key + F2, to open the Run Jaws Manager, then arrow
down to Settings Center & press enter.
2. Arrow down to, Web / HTML / PDFs, press right arrow to open.
3. Down Arrow to, Reading, right arrow to open.
4. Down arrow to, Indicate Block Quotations, & press the spacebar to uncheck
this checkbox.
5. Tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, press enter to save your
change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying block quote

Were you able to find it?

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying
block quote

Got it and thanks.
Marie


From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 2:22 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from saying
block quote

The option is only available if you open the Quick Settings dialog
while an HTML capable window/control has focus. So if you open it while
either your browser or Email client's preview pane set to view as HTML have
focus, it should be available.

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from
saying block quote

Funny, if you type Block into the search field it says there
are no matches.
Marie


From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:06 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it from
saying block quote

Hi Marie,
The setting is labeled
"Block Quotes Identify Start and End"

----- Original Message -----
From: Marie <mailto:magpie.mn@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it
from saying block quote

Gene I use Jaws and am pretty familiar with the
quick settings. I also use WLM in HTML mode and I can find nothing about
block quote in the settings?
Marie


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:36 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it
from saying block quote

When you are in a message body, open quick settings
with JAWS key v. Look down the settings, and change what you want to
change. When you find something you want to change, such as block quotes,
use the space bar to move through the available settings. You may repeat
the settings as often as you want by continuing to press the space bar.
Once you have changed whatever settings you want to change for as many items
as you wish, press enter to save the changes and return you to the program
window you were previously in.

Your home computer may not be indicating bloc quotes
because you are not reading mail as html at home. On your friends computer,
messages are being read as html and you are in the virtual pc cursor.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: joanne <mailto:grandma1323@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:21 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] using Jaws 15 how to stop it
from saying block quote

I have a second Jaws question. On the computer I'm
using Jaws is saying block quote, and the person who helped me set mine up
on my own computers set it to not say this. I thought it might be in
graphics or attributes but not having luck getting rid of it. I hope
someone can help.

Joanne


Re: Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Barb O'Connor
 

This is definitely a good idea.
 
Barb

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

It also occurs to me that the chat subgroup might have another useful benefit.  If you subscribe to it, but at certain times it becomes too much or is overwhelming your inbox, you can simply disable it by setting it to "no mail" for as long as you like and you still won't be missing out on content from the primary list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Chat subgrou for Tech Talk

Okay, since I suspect this is likely to be the prevailing opinion, I have gone ahead and created a chat subgroup.  I agree that the excessive chatting may simply be a side effect of the fact that it is a new list, but having it available certainly can't hurt.  One of the differences between a standard/parent group and a subgroup, is that only members of the parent group can subscribe to a subgroup.  I hope that everyone understands that as much as I don't want to be a jerk, if we're going to make this change, I will have to mostly enforce the restriction on too much general chatting/humor on the primary list.  Of course, part of my reasoning for creating a new list was to provide a more open minded/friendly environment so this doesn't mean that I'm going to turn into a raving dictator.  In my opinion and experience, most rules which are too strictly enforced only wind up irritating those who are required to follow them.
 
The subscription address for the chat list is
and the posting address is