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Re: can anyone tell me if spybot is any good and specifics please?

Walt Smith
 

Carlos -
 
Right. I only mentioned C-Cleaner in the sense of its removal of cookies, where I think it isn't as selective as Spybot.



From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 12:50 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] can anyone tell me if spybot is any good and specifics please?

Hi Walt,
Just be aware that CCleaner is a junk file remover.  It does not remove malware of any kind so it is not comparable to Spybot.
 


How do I change the default printer in Windows 7?

Walt Smith
 

Something has changed my default printer choice in Windows 7 and I want to change it back, but can't figure out how. When I go to the Search dialog in the Start menu and enter Default Printer, an item labeled "Change Default Printer" comes up, but when I go there, there doesn't seem to be anything that allows me to set the default printer -- that is, there's just a list of devices with no "Set as Default" button, etc.
 
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Re: Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really such agoodidea?

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi Flor,
Well, where to look? And thanks for this, think I'll go ahead with us.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:59:16 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really such agoodidea?

Hi Rajmund.

No it won't. You will be getting 480 kilobytes a minute. Now there are 3600
secs in an hour. One megabyte in 128 Secs or 2 minutes, 8 secs, of use. (Or
if you prefers, 960 kilobytes in two minutes, (120 seconds). So you'd have
4800 kilobytes in 10 mins.

Now I'm doing all this in my head! That works out at about 28.8 megabytes in
an hour. There are 1024 megabytes in one gigabyte. After 6 hours contant
listening, you'll have 172.8 megabytes down. Quite a ways short of one
gigabyte. It'll take you around six days at that rate to equal that amount.

Have you a service provider's site on which you can check your bandwith
usage? That might be a useful reference point for you to check out. (These
stats are usually accessible, once you know where to look..)


-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really such
agood idea?

Hi Flor,
So, if I listen to something that is a 64 kbps, will it not kill
the 3g within a day? As in, like, 6 hours?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 03:29:48 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it
really such agood idea?

Hi Rajmund,

You still may need to ascertain from your provider...

However, I now know that my previous two replies here (apart from
replying
to Gene) were incorrect. (You can scrap/delete those.) I was
getting
confused between the bit-rate of the stream, and what the
telecomms use as
their measurement (which is bytes/kilobytes/megabytes of data.
Basically,
there are 8 bits in a byte of data. So, at 64 kBps, or kilobits
per second,
you셱e getting 8 kilobytes a second. Thus, in a minute or 60
secs, you get
480 kB (kilobytes). (If the stream were 128kBps, you'd get 960
Kb
(kilobytes) of downloaded data. . Unbfortunately, for most of
us, the
computers are better at calculating this sort of thing than we
are. As a
further wrinkle, there are 1024 iB in a megabyte, and really not
1000!
However, we don't know what your provider uses for their
calculations. It
is, however, likely that you can do a fair amount of radio
streams listening
within your allowance quota - assuming that it's a reasonable
quota by
today's hi-speed broadband standards.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:18 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really
such a good
idea?

Hi all,
For reasons, I only have 3g wifi, as of this point. As some of
you will
know, I like listening to the radio, rather than having own
collection. So,
here's the question. I think I know the answer, but just want to
confirm.
So, I use m3u files, that are between 128 and 64 kbps.. Am I
right to think,
that this means if I listen to a radio station for an hour, and
it is a 64
kbps, does it mean I will use up 3840 kb off the 3g? Any
clarification is
appreciated!

Sent from a Braille Sense


Re: I Phone accessibility help

Carolyn Arnold
 

Right about Anna Dressner's book.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Martineau [mailto:topdot@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 6:10 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I Phone accessibility help

It definitely takes time and effort to learn to use an iPhone, but many of us have found the effort worthwhile. Also, be patient with yourself, because this is a very new skill. You will make lots of mistakes, but this is how we learn.



Because this is such a new skill for most of us, training, study and practice are necessary. There are people you can pay who will provide excellent training, but a less expensive way is to get Anna Dresner’s book from National Braille press. It is available in several media. You can learn without it, but you’ll learn a lot better and with less stress with it.



There is no getting around learning the gestures. When you know them, you’re in charge; when you don’t, you are lost and have no control.



There are lots of lists of VoiceOver gestures on the net. VoiceOver provides a place where you can practice gestures to get them right. One way to get there is to double-tap with four fingers. You repeat this gesture to exit.



I hope you will put in time to become proficient with the onscreen keyboard for writing. Sometimes you need to use it. But if you will be doing lots of writing, a lot of people use Bluetooth keyboards, of which there are many.



There are also mailing lists devoted to iOS that you can join.



So from here, ask whatever questions you have and people can offer more specific help.



Dean



http://bahaiteachings.org/





From: charlie [mailto:ckobermann@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:32 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] I Phone accessibility help



Hello to all,

My name is Charlie Kobermann and I am a owner of a new I Phone 6. I am having problems adapting to using the voice over screen reader to navigate this thing. Anybody got any ideas on how I get acquainted with the screen layout and things like that. Once I understand it I will get better but I can’t seem to figure it out. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you for your consideration.

Charlie Kobermann


wlm use

Bill K <billmeister@...>
 

Hi Marie,
I'm not sure if the newer version of wlm will work with my speech which is SA, but I'll be installing the program soon, and then I'll know which program will work for me.
take care,
Bill K.
Original message:

Do you wish to have the newer version which uses the Ribbons or the older
version which uses the standard menus?
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Koppelmann
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 10:29 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Marie: wlm use
Hi Marie,
You said . .
I have been using WLM for several years and find it the easiest of
all the email clients to use.
so, can you tell me just where I can download the program, and can
someone tell me if you delete the program and put it back in later,
does it keep the original email setup? If so, how do I delete those and
start from scratch.
thanks,
Bill k.




Re: windows10 instal question

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

The thing is that the free offer is an upgrade to an existing copy of Windows. If you don't have a copy of Windows already then it is a new copy of windows that you have to buy.
Manufacturers have to pay for the OS on a new computer they sell. So this is not unfair.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


Yes, what I mean is that if I want to install on a new machine, then I
want this copy of windows I'm going to get with the free upgrade to
work, and if it cannot activate then that is what is not fair because
if I want to install on a new machine then that means I would have to
buy another copy of windows10 anyway in order to get a product key,
since Microsoft don't email the keys and they only come on the dvd. I
was told that by Microsoft staff. I'm not in the USA so I cannot try
to buy it from them online as they do with some of their products. And
what is the use of trying to use a dvd I build now after a year if the
key along with it might not activate on new hardware? I guess they do
it because most people would by a new computer with the new system,
but I hope they will change this regarding custom build pc's. Thanks
at least for clarify this.

On 09/09/2015, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say you would have to buy a new
Windows DVD. You can create an ISO image using the Media Creation Tool and

then burn it to a DVD. You can then use that DVD to upgrade any of your
machines running Windows 7 or 8. As I said, once you have upgraded and your

machine has been registered on the Microsoft servers, you can perform clean

installations to your hearts content. You just can't start out with a clean

installation. Although you can choose to remove everything during the
upgrade process which would be almost like a clean installation. I'm not
clear about which part exactly is not fair. Being able to upgrade any
machine running Windows 7 or 8 sounds like a fairly reasonable deal to me.
If you mean you will not be able to install it for free on a new machine
that you may have custom built as an example, that is true, but the fact
that they will make some money is inevitable and is how most companies stay

in business. I am sure that there will be some way of downloading ISO
images even after the free offer expires next year if you purchase a product

key. And of course any ISO images/DVDs which you create now will still be
usable then as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


I am so sad to here this. Thanks for clarify. Because this means you
would have to buy a new windows dvd anyway. That is not really fair to
loyl customers. I mean, I want a windows10 that can function in the
same way my other versions did in the sense that I can install them
anywhere from scratch and activate. What if I want to for example put
it into a virtual machine then they actually say it won't work on a
new computer? A very good way to make extra money. So do any of you
know weather it will be possible to download and make a dvd after 29
july next year?

On 09/09/2015, Quentin Christensen <quentin.christensen@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly! Well installing over the top has oftentimes been problematic,
so I figured to get the best out of (then beta) Windows 10, I would do
it from scratch - I'm still amazed there is no way of me now inputting
my Windows 7 key, it would seriously take them all of 10 lines of code
to let me input my Windows 7 key, verify it with Microsoft and kick off
that "register this computer as upgrading to Windows 10" routine...

One positive thing with Windows 10 is that once you're on board, a
couple years down the track when you go to buy a new PC, it will look
identical to your old one (except the software you need to reinstall,
but at least there shouldn't be a learning curve and anything that was
working on your old PC should work on the new one), and if you can
download Windows 10 off Microsoft now, it should mean, if you do want to
reinstall from scratch in a year or so, you should be able to download
that current ISO, install it and be more or less up to date without
needing to go through three weeks of install patch, reboot, rinse,
repeat...

On 9/09/2015 10:15 AM, Carlos wrote:
Ugh I hate starting from scratch. Any time I've had to perform a
clean installation, it takes forever to get everything back to a
recognizable state. And just when you think you finally have it
nailed down, you remember 5 other things that still need to be
reinstalled or tweaked.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin.christensen@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


I made that mistake when installing the technical preview earlier in
the year - I just assumed that I would be able to enter my Windows 7
product key in somewhere once the final version came out... but
no... So I'm putting off reformatting, installing Windows 7,
installing all the updates, and then upgrading... until I'm not sure
when, but I better start soon or I won't get to the installing
Windows 10 part before next July! :)

On 9/09/2015 9:53 AM, Carlos wrote:
And just to clarify, no. If you perform a clean installation before
upgrading, you will not have a key and it will not activate.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Aidan"
<aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


Ok, so let me just clarify, if I were to perform a clean install, I
won't have a key, neither will it activate rite? Or will it stil
some
how activate?

On 08/09/2015, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
As I said it might be worth saving just in case, but the product
key is tied

to the hardware on which it is first installed. Unless Microsoft
is willing

to reset the license, you can't just use the product key on a
different
machine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


But would you not need to keep the key stored in the event that
you
move to newer hardware? Or will it work if you use the previously
runned windows8 or 7 key?

On 08/09/2015, juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com> wrote:
That is good to know Carlos.


Juan Gonzalez
E-Z Computer Repair
jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com
(224) 730-4896

On Sep 8, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
wrote:

I agree that it might be worth retrieving your new product key
for
archival purposes, but technically it is not required for a
clean
installation. Once you have upgraded and your machine has been
registered
on the Microsoft servers, it will automatically be recognized
during
subsequent installations and you will not have to use the
product key
to
reactivate.
----- Original Message ----- From: "juan gonzalez"
<jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


like carlos states, either way is fine. the procedure is all
the same.
What i would do in your place would be to. do the upgrade with
whatever
method you want. Then once you have windows 10 installed with
your
product
key. get a key finder program like majic bean. or whatever its
called.
take note of your product key for future reference. then do a
windows
reinstall via the windows 10 settings. tell it to remove
everything and
its like a fresh reinstall of windows 10. I've done this method
and it
works great.


Juan Gonzalez
E-Z Computer Repair
jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com
(224) 730-4896

On Sep 8, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello everyone.
There seem to be mixed feelings about weather you should
install
windows10 from the system tray icon, and weather it will be in
order
to make and use a dvd. People say its better to wait til
Microsoft
pushes it to your pc, because some had problems when they
forced the
upgrade via a dvd. I also don't like it that if I were to do a
clean
install I won't have a product key. Is there another way to
get a key
than just install the over upgrade? What is really true
regarding this
thing that you might get problems if you try force the install
before
the system tray icon tells you that its ok to do so? I don't
want to
do that and then end up that I must role back? Also, I am
holding off
with the dvd until over a month or so after they bring out the
updated
patch or sord of a service pack to fix issues.

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Re: Screen readers -- a general question

Beth
 

To answer the questions about discrepancies of visual display and screen reader statements, that can be true. It depends on what you're looking at. For instance, this is a notorious happening for some websites, but captchas are bad about this, sometimes buttons are unlabeled or links not placed properly in order that the screen reader renders them properly. Sometimes you have missing labels for forms on the web and off the web.
This also would apply to mobile technology, particularly VO or Talk Back for Android. All screen reading software needs to render all stuff on a screen in such a way that you can navigate stuff. For instance, I go to a site that has the most confusing bits of info for a homework assignment. Let's say that the assignment had to do with something visual ... say, it was about news and economical stuff. I had to look up a portfolio for a company, and wanted to also check some other stuff out. Suppose I go to a certain company and their site, but find that the search button is not labeled. It would read "button" and the reader wouldn't pick up what your granddaughter obviously might pick up, the word "search" written by the actual thing that is to be clicked. This is one clue that access to the site may not be very good. Just my thoughts.

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On 9/9/2015 9:00 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:
I hope to get answers to the below questions for Window-eyes 9.2, Jaws 16, and also for NVDA.

On occasion I ask my grand daughter about something on the screen. So when using any of the above screen readers, does the screen reader in any way alter the appearance of the screen content? So for example, if Window-eyes says that internet explorer is highlighted, would whoever is looking at the screen agree with this assessment? Are their situations where the visual appearance differs from what the screen reader states?

Thanks.

Don Roberts



Re: MSE code

Carolyn Arnold
 

Thanks, Gene, as an MSE user, this is worth bearing in mind for the future.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 10:23 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSE code

Those with more technical knowledge may wish to comment on this message.
Here is how I see the situation and what to try:
We need to attempt to put certain things in sequence and to be sure of some
information.

First, are you sure the restore point you ran was before you accidentally
deleted the program?
Second, after you ran the restore point, what did you do? Did you try to
run the program or did you try something else such as to install it? After
running the restore point, if you didn't try to run the program, you may
have tried to install it when installation wasn't necessary. Did you run
the fix file after running the restore point? If you ran the fix file
before you tried to run the program, you may have caused the program not to
run when it otherwise might have.

System Restore in Windows 7 is more powerful than in XP and may restore
programs at times.
So we need to know first, whether you are sure you ran a restore point from
before the time you uninstalled the program and then we need to know what
you did after that. Did you try to run the program first or did you try to
reinstall it or run the fix file again or something else.

If you didn't follow this sequence try it and see what happens:
First run a restore point you are sure is before you uninstalled the
program.
Then before you try anything else see if the program is running and try
testing it to see if it is running properly. Update definitions and see if
the update is successful and try a scan. Look at the system tray to see if
you see an item that says you are protected. If the program is running
correctly, don't try anything else.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos <mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 9:07 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSE code

It always amazes me how little Microsoft technicians seem to understand
Microsoft's own products. This solution they offered you seems to be
somewhat generic and does not really explain the cause of the problem.
Except to say that it is related to left over files, registry entries, and
firewall settings from other antivirus applications. It also seems to have
been posted by a random user and not a Microsoft representative or
technician. I mistrust such generic solutions even though they may have
worked for some. It does not address issues like exactly which antivirus
packages are causing this problem? It is difficult to accept that it may be
all of them. Also, it does not address exactly which files. registry
entries, or settings are causing the problem which implies that the poster
simply does not know the answers to these questions.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sugar" <sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net <mailto:sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net> >
To: <TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> >
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSE code


Yes and here I am using this desk top with no protection so I will go
and put malware bites back on at least I have something

'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.
~Sugar


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:29 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSE code

There seem to be many references online to other users experiencing this
error, but no clear solution which I have found yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sugar" <sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net <mailto:sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net>

To: <TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> >
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSE code


Yes it did not work and I did a fix link that Microsoft sent me,
http://appuals.com/step-step-guide-fix-security-essentials-error-0x800
70643/

and it still doesn't work. I had a tech guy who is looking in to it
because once again a scan was done and nothing was found.
Any ideas?
sugar

'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.
~Sugar


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:17 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] MSE code

Hi Sugar,
Did you try using System Restore?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sugar" <sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net <mailto:sugarsyl71@sbcglobal.net>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io> >
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 9:10 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] MSE code


Here is the code I get when I try to install MSE
MSE Error code:0x80070643

There is speaking grace. Colossians 4:6 says, "Let your speech be always
with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer
every man."
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Re: windows10 instal question

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Yes, what I mean is that if I want to install on a new machine, then I
want this copy of windows I'm going to get with the free upgrade to
work, and if it cannot activate then that is what is not fair because
if I want to install on a new machine then that means I would have to
buy another copy of windows10 anyway in order to get a product key,
since Microsoft don't email the keys and they only come on the dvd. I
was told that by Microsoft staff. I'm not in the USA so I cannot try
to buy it from them online as they do with some of their products. And
what is the use of trying to use a dvd I build now after a year if the
key along with it might not activate on new hardware? I guess they do
it because most people would by a new computer with the new system,
but I hope they will change this regarding custom build pc's. Thanks
at least for clarify this.

On 09/09/2015, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say you would have to buy a new
Windows DVD. You can create an ISO image using the Media Creation Tool and

then burn it to a DVD. You can then use that DVD to upgrade any of your
machines running Windows 7 or 8. As I said, once you have upgraded and your

machine has been registered on the Microsoft servers, you can perform clean

installations to your hearts content. You just can't start out with a clean

installation. Although you can choose to remove everything during the
upgrade process which would be almost like a clean installation. I'm not
clear about which part exactly is not fair. Being able to upgrade any
machine running Windows 7 or 8 sounds like a fairly reasonable deal to me.
If you mean you will not be able to install it for free on a new machine
that you may have custom built as an example, that is true, but the fact
that they will make some money is inevitable and is how most companies stay

in business. I am sure that there will be some way of downloading ISO
images even after the free offer expires next year if you purchase a product

key. And of course any ISO images/DVDs which you create now will still be
usable then as well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


I am so sad to here this. Thanks for clarify. Because this means you
would have to buy a new windows dvd anyway. That is not really fair to
loyl customers. I mean, I want a windows10 that can function in the
same way my other versions did in the sense that I can install them
anywhere from scratch and activate. What if I want to for example put
it into a virtual machine then they actually say it won't work on a
new computer? A very good way to make extra money. So do any of you
know weather it will be possible to download and make a dvd after 29
july next year?

On 09/09/2015, Quentin Christensen <quentin.christensen@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly! Well installing over the top has oftentimes been problematic,
so I figured to get the best out of (then beta) Windows 10, I would do
it from scratch - I'm still amazed there is no way of me now inputting
my Windows 7 key, it would seriously take them all of 10 lines of code
to let me input my Windows 7 key, verify it with Microsoft and kick off
that "register this computer as upgrading to Windows 10" routine...

One positive thing with Windows 10 is that once you're on board, a
couple years down the track when you go to buy a new PC, it will look
identical to your old one (except the software you need to reinstall,
but at least there shouldn't be a learning curve and anything that was
working on your old PC should work on the new one), and if you can
download Windows 10 off Microsoft now, it should mean, if you do want to
reinstall from scratch in a year or so, you should be able to download
that current ISO, install it and be more or less up to date without
needing to go through three weeks of install patch, reboot, rinse,
repeat...

On 9/09/2015 10:15 AM, Carlos wrote:
Ugh I hate starting from scratch. Any time I've had to perform a
clean installation, it takes forever to get everything back to a
recognizable state. And just when you think you finally have it
nailed down, you remember 5 other things that still need to be
reinstalled or tweaked.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin.christensen@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


I made that mistake when installing the technical preview earlier in
the year - I just assumed that I would be able to enter my Windows 7
product key in somewhere once the final version came out... but
no... So I'm putting off reformatting, installing Windows 7,
installing all the updates, and then upgrading... until I'm not sure
when, but I better start soon or I won't get to the installing
Windows 10 part before next July! :)

On 9/09/2015 9:53 AM, Carlos wrote:
And just to clarify, no. If you perform a clean installation before
upgrading, you will not have a key and it will not activate.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Aidan"
<aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


Ok, so let me just clarify, if I were to perform a clean install, I
won't have a key, neither will it activate rite? Or will it stil
some
how activate?

On 08/09/2015, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
As I said it might be worth saving just in case, but the product
key is tied

to the hardware on which it is first installed. Unless Microsoft
is willing

to reset the license, you can't just use the product key on a
different
machine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


But would you not need to keep the key stored in the event that
you
move to newer hardware? Or will it work if you use the previously
runned windows8 or 7 key?

On 08/09/2015, juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com> wrote:
That is good to know Carlos.


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E-Z Computer Repair
jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com
(224) 730-4896

On Sep 8, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com>
wrote:

I agree that it might be worth retrieving your new product key
for
archival purposes, but technically it is not required for a
clean
installation. Once you have upgraded and your machine has been
registered
on the Microsoft servers, it will automatically be recognized
during
subsequent installations and you will not have to use the
product key
to
reactivate.
----- Original Message ----- From: "juan gonzalez"
<jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows10 instal question


like carlos states, either way is fine. the procedure is all
the same.
What i would do in your place would be to. do the upgrade with
whatever
method you want. Then once you have windows 10 installed with
your
product
key. get a key finder program like majic bean. or whatever its
called.
take note of your product key for future reference. then do a
windows
reinstall via the windows 10 settings. tell it to remove
everything and
its like a fresh reinstall of windows 10. I've done this method
and it
works great.


Juan Gonzalez
E-Z Computer Repair
jgonzalezh614@hotmail.com
(224) 730-4896

On Sep 8, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello everyone.
There seem to be mixed feelings about weather you should
install
windows10 from the system tray icon, and weather it will be in
order
to make and use a dvd. People say its better to wait til
Microsoft
pushes it to your pc, because some had problems when they
forced the
upgrade via a dvd. I also don't like it that if I were to do a
clean
install I won't have a product key. Is there another way to
get a key
than just install the over upgrade? What is really true
regarding this
thing that you might get problems if you try force the install
before
the system tray icon tells you that its ok to do so? I don't
want to
do that and then end up that I must role back? Also, I am
holding off
with the dvd until over a month or so after they bring out the
updated
patch or sord of a service pack to fix issues.

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Screen readers -- a general question

Donald L. Roberts
 

I hope to get answers to the below questions for Window-eyes 9.2, Jaws 16, and also for NVDA.

On occasion I ask my grand daughter about something on the screen. So when using any of the above screen readers, does the screen reader in any way alter the appearance of the screen content? So for example, if Window-eyes says that internet explorer is highlighted, would whoever is looking at the screen agree with this assessment? Are their situations where the visual appearance differs from what the screen reader states?

Thanks.

Don Roberts


Re: I Phone accessibility help

charlie <ckobermann@...>
 

Thanks, it is my only phone and I am doing alright so far with making and answering calls, however navigating the screen using voice over is a work in progress  I am working on. I bookmarked that site and I am sure it will help tremendously, thanks again!
 

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I Phone accessibility help
 
Welcome to the list Charlie,
As someone else has already indicated, applevis.com is an excellent resource for listening to and learning the iPhone and other IDevices.  I hope the IPhone isn't your only phone.  It might be frustrating to receive, end, and make calls until you're familiar with the process.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2015, at 3:32 AM, charlie <ckobermann@...> wrote:

Hello to all,
My name is Charlie Kobermann and I am a owner of a new I Phone 6. I am having problems adapting to using the voice over screen reader to navigate this thing. Anybody got any ideas on how I get acquainted with the screen layout and things like that. Once I understand it I will get better but I can’t seem to figure it out. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your consideration.
Charlie Kobermann  





Re: I Phone accessibility help

charlie <ckobermann@...>
 

Thanks Juan, will do that, appreciate the tip!
 

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I Phone accessibility help
 
If you can get somebody to help you download the app "VO tutorial". It is another great way to learn Voice Over.


Juan Gonzalez
E-Z Computer Repair
(224) 730-4896

On Sep 9, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Juanita Martin <jordmartin@...> wrote:

Welcome to the list Charlie,
As someone else has already indicated, applevis.com is an excellent resource for listening to and learning the iPhone and other IDevices.  I hope the IPhone isn't your only phone.  It might be frustrating to receive, end, and make calls until you're familiar with the process.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2015, at 3:32 AM, charlie <ckobermann@...> wrote:

Hello to all,
My name is Charlie Kobermann and I am a owner of a new I Phone 6. I am having problems adapting to using the voice over screen reader to navigate this thing. Anybody got any ideas on how I get acquainted with the screen layout and things like that. Once I understand it I will get better but I can’t seem to figure it out. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your consideration.
Charlie Kobermann  





Re: A strange question.

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

I have the IPhone 6 and the triple click for VoiceOver seldom works. This is my fourth IPhone so I have used this successfully on previous phones but most of the time, I am forced to use Siri to turn VoiceOver on and off. I do have the setting correct and the speed set to default but....?
Marie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 3:45 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] A strange question.

Yes, go to Settings, General, Accessibility. At the very bottom is a setting where you can define one or more actions that will occur when you triple-click home. Ensure that VoiceOver is selected, and nothing else, unless you want something else from among those choices, and the shortcut will henceforth work.
Dean


http://bahaiteachings.org/



-----Original Message-----
From: Janie Landrum [mailto:amber8844@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 6:19 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] A strange question.

Hello, I am using an Iphone 6 plus and when I triple click the home button it doesn't turn on and off voice over.
Is there a setting that I am missing?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Re: I Phone accessibility help

juan gonzalez
 

If you can get somebody to help you download the app "VO tutorial". It is another great way to learn Voice Over. 


Juan Gonzalez
E-Z Computer Repair
(224) 730-4896 

On Sep 9, 2015, at 7:53 AM, Juanita Martin <jordmartin@...> wrote:

Welcome to the list Charlie,
As someone else has already indicated, applevis.com is an excellent resource for listening to and learning the iPhone and other IDevices.  I hope the IPhone isn't your only phone.  It might be frustrating to receive, end, and make calls until you're familiar with the process.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2015, at 3:32 AM, charlie <ckobermann@...> wrote:

Hello to all,
My name is Charlie Kobermann and I am a owner of a new I Phone 6. I am having problems adapting to using the voice over screen reader to navigate this thing. Anybody got any ideas on how I get acquainted with the screen layout and things like that. Once I understand it I will get better but I can’t seem to figure it out. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your consideration.
Charlie Kobermann  



Re: Strange problem with Thunderbird. Can anyone help?

Beth
 

I would look back at your server settings, so yeah. It wouldn't hurt to do that.

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On 9/9/2015 7:58 AM, Gary Price wrote:
Afternoon everyone!

Please could someone help me out if possible.
When I write a message using my iCloud account in Thunderbird, the latest version I should add, every so often I'm getting a very strange message.

Thunderbird dialogue: There was an error saving the message to drafts. Retry? OK button.

Are my settings corrupted in some way? Do I need to re-configure them?
Thanks very much. I look forward to any responses.


Strange problem with Thunderbird. Can anyone help?

Gary Price
 

Afternoon everyone!

Please could someone help me out if possible.
When I write a message using my iCloud account in Thunderbird, the latest version I should add, every so often I'm getting a very strange message.

Thunderbird dialogue: There was an error saving the message to drafts. Retry? OK button.

Are my settings corrupted in some way? Do I need to re-configure them?
Thanks very much. I look forward to any responses.

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Re: Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really such agood idea?

Flor Lynch
 

At 64 kilobits per second, Works out at:
28.768 megabytes in an hour;
57.536 in 2 hours;
172.608 - a72 megs 608 kilobytes - in a six-hour-daily;
345 megs 216 kilo in two-daily;
1035megabytes,648kilobytes, over six-days. .

So you could have nearly 6 days before you'd reach 1 gigabyte of data. (Now this is theoretical, and does not include other downloads you've carried on - such as email, and other file downloads. Unless you're doing a major update such downloads would be relatively small. So, let's say, about five-and-a-half days of six-hour per day radio listening at 64 kbps would take you 1 gigabyte down from your allowance of 3 gigs.

-----Original Message-----
From: Flor Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 12:59 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really such agood idea?

Hi Rajmund.

No it won't. You will be getting 480 kilobytes a minute. Now there are 3600
secs in an hour. One megabyte in 128 Secs or 2 minutes, 8 secs, of use. (Or
if you prefers, 960 kilobytes in two minutes, (120 seconds). So you'd have
4800 kilobytes in 10 mins.

Now I'm doing all this in my head! That works out at about 28.8 megabytes in
an hour. There are 1024 megabytes in one gigabyte. After 6 hours contant
listening, you'll have 172.8 megabytes down. Quite a ways short of one
gigabyte. It'll take you around six days at that rate to equal that amount.

Have you a service provider's site on which you can check your bandwith
usage? That might be a useful reference point for you to check out. (These
stats are usually accessible, once you know where to look.)


-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really such
agood idea?

Hi Flor,
So, if I listen to something that is a 64 kbps, will it not kill
the 3g within a day? As in, like, 6 hours?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@iol.ie
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 03:29:48 +0100
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it
really such agood idea?

Hi Rajmund,

You still may need to ascertain from your provider...

However, I now know that my previous two replies here (apart from
replying
to Gene) were incorrect. (You can scrap/delete those.) I was
getting
confused between the bit-rate of the stream, and what the
telecomms use as
their measurement (which is bytes/kilobytes/megabytes of data.
Basically,
there are 8 bits in a byte of data. So, at 64 kBps, or kilobits
per second,
you셱e getting 8 kilobytes a second. Thus, in a minute or 60
secs, you get
480 kB (kilobytes). (If the stream were 128kBps, you'd get 960
Kb
(kilobytes) of downloaded data. . Unbfortunately, for most of
us, the
computers are better at calculating this sort of thing than we
are. As a
further wrinkle, there are 1024 iB in a megabyte, and really not
1000!
However, we don't know what your provider uses for their
calculations. It
is, however, likely that you can do a fair amount of radio
streams listening
within your allowance quota - assuming that it's a reasonable
quota by
today's hi-speed broadband standards.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:18 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Listening to the radio on 3g? Is it really
such a good
idea?

Hi all,
For reasons, I only have 3g wifi, as of this point. As some of
you will
know, I like listening to the radio, rather than having own
collection. So,
here's the question. I think I know the answer, but just want to
confirm.
So, I use m3u files, that are between 128 and 64 kbps.. Am I
right to think,
that this means if I listen to a radio station for an hour, and
it is a 64
kbps, does it mean I will use up 3840 kb off the 3g? Any
clarification is
appreciated!

Sent from a Braille Sense


Re: tech opportunity for you NFL fanatics

Carlos
 

Hi Beth,
While I have no objections to promotions or announcements, I would appreciate it if they are restricted to subjects which are at least somewhat tech related. Please understand that I have to make an effort to enforce some vague consistency or we risk alienating other list members.
Thanks for your cooperation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 7:43 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] tech opportunity for you NFL fanatics


Hey yall, my boyfriend and I are starting a free Fantasy Football League called Touchdown Treason, funny the name is something I came up with. But you guys should join. We have 7 vacancies open, and it would be a great opportunity for some of you to learn the ropes and stuff of NFL dot com. So yall go to this league and join. I can't get an entire list emailed an invite, so I just want to share the league's main page and yall can find the ID in the directory, it will take some browsing, but it's doable. To join, please get yourselves hooked up with an NFL account which isn't that hard to do, some of us being huge tech people. So if you are interested, and especially in these 7 vacancies, please consult the following URL or email me off list.
http://fantasy.nfl.com/league/3705014

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Re: I Phone accessibility help

Juanita Martin <jordmartin@...>
 

Welcome to the list Charlie,
As someone else has already indicated, applevis.com is an excellent resource for listening to and learning the iPhone and other IDevices.  I hope the IPhone isn't your only phone.  It might be frustrating to receive, end, and make calls until you're familiar with the process.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2015, at 3:32 AM, charlie <ckobermann@...> wrote:

Hello to all,
My name is Charlie Kobermann and I am a owner of a new I Phone 6. I am having problems adapting to using the voice over screen reader to navigate this thing. Anybody got any ideas on how I get acquainted with the screen layout and things like that. Once I understand it I will get better but I can’t seem to figure it out. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your consideration.
Charlie Kobermann  



Re: Tetrus for brailleNote apex?

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hi,
First, yes, you must must must enter the product key every time you want to play. Second, I don't understand it, either. Want the user guide for it, that someone wrote? LOL, not even that helped me.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 08:29:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Tetrus for brailleNote apex?

Hi
I tried to play it a few times last night. I don't understand it. Do you know the rules, so you can explain to me how this works? Anytime I want to play, I must enter the product key you gave me. I must enter it each time. How can I avoid this if it's not suppose to happen?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2015, at 7:33 AM, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I wouldn't say its necessarily off topic. Although, trust me, an accessible tetris would be better than what the BN gives, unless its just me being an idiot, and I don't get it?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna" <mermaid7@bellsouth.net
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 06:43:10 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Tetrus for brailleNote apex?

This is a bit off topic. When I had sight Tetris was my all time favorite game! I wish someone would develop an accessible IOS Tetris game. Happy playing to those who have access to a Tetris game.

Donna

On Sep 9, 2015, at 4:14 AM, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I'd enter it in uncontracted. It opens the tetris game, though, I have never understood it. Or rather, I don't know where to rotate what, so I have always played text adventures, instead. Although, I hope that there's someone, who knows how to play tetris. LOL, my record is 506, but I can't reproduce that, ever since. Oh, you enter it once.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 20:34:08 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Tetrus for brailleNote apex?

Hi,
Do I enter the product key in contracted or uncontracted braille? Are there any spaces?
How many times must I enter this key? What does it do?
I've never done this before.
Thanks, Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2015, at 5:25 PM, rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Free, and legal. Go utilities. Key management. Enter a product key. When there, type: playtime.
LOL, if you feel adventurous, give resdisp a spin!
PS. Humanware advertise tetris, but they don't tell you how to do it. Isn't that mean?

----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica D <jldail13@gmail.com
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 10:03 pm
Subject: [TechTalk] Tetrus for brailleNote apex?



Hi,
I want to find out how I can obtain and play tetrus on my BrailleNote. Can anyone please tell me how to get it? Does it cost? Is it legal?
Thanks, Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

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