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locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Pamela Dominguez
 

But they are coming back with a revised version. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lenron
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:26 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

It bombed I am sure like most of that sort of thing does. The price
was probably out of this world. Anyways on the subject of this
foldable phone this is just second gen tech, so I am sure it has some
growing to do. I feel like they will get it right though. I would
still try it because it's something different. Also phones with
buttons not a big deal to me these days. I miss the days of phones
with nice keyboards but it's not what most people care about so they
will not be made much anymore.

On 2/20/20, jan howells via Groups.Io <gale7978=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
A While ago, I have heard about a combo smart phone with a keypad
with buttons at the bottom, and a touch screen at the top with a
small braille display at the bottom. Does anyone know whatever
became of that, or did it bomb? LOL! I think that the had ten or
12 cells. So it could be used by the touch screen with the
little braille display, or the buttons. I thought that it was
going to be available in 2020. Has anyone heard? Thank you.

Jan




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Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Pontes Media Downloaded Issue

Joe Orozco
 

Does anyone have a link to download the older version? Thanks in advance.--Joe

On 2/19/20, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi George,

I did reinstall the program and it now works fine.


On 2/19/2020 9:57 AM, George McCoy wrote:
Ron,


Version 3.1.1 is, in many ways, a step backward.  You get almost no
feedback about downloads in progress, so it's hard to know whether a
download is taking place or not.

You might try the following:

Open Pontes Media Downloader 3.1.1.

Press ctrl plus u to update the download engine.

Click the ok button when the update finishes and try your download again.


Hth,

George


On 2/18/2020 4:54 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For the past day or so, I have been unable to get anything from
Youtube to download using the latest version of Pontes Media
Downloader.  Has anyone else had this issue and if so, is there a
solution?

Thanks in advance for any help.


--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"





locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Lisa Belville
 

Thank you, Mike, this is probably it.  Dad is sighted, but not used to smart technology beyond his Windows 10 laptop and his smart TV, but I think he would be interested in at least checking this phone out.


Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...
On 2/19/2020 8:20 PM, Mike B wrote:


Hi Lisa,
 
I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.
 

 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...




locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

John Dowling <1008jmd@...>
 

Hi everyone:
I am totally blind, and have been since birth.
Gerald, what your saying is just, bazar...
Of course blind people can use a phone without buttons.
After the introduction of the iPhone 10, apple implemented a way for VoiceOver users to go to the home screen, and app switcher.
I went from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.
Don't forget about the 2016 macbook pro with its touch bar which apple also made accessible with VoiceOver.
I'm not an android user, but I'm sure companies like Samsung have made ways of making there phones accessible with services like TalkBack and that other screen reader samsung themselves developed.
if you can, I would suggest going to your local apple store and checking out the new phones. There really easy to use once you get the hang of sliding up to go home instead of pushing buttons.
then again, maybe since I'm so used to change, I really don't think about stuff like that lol.

John.



On Feb 20, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited@...> wrote:




I suspect that many "blind" consumers who use smart phones that are completely devoid of tactile buttons are not really "blind" at all, but visually impaired and retain some funtional vision to navigate around a touchscreen.  Those who are totally blind and purport to use a touchscreen smart phone probably had a lot of sighted help. Which is why smart phones with tactile keypads like the BlindShell and Smart Vision have been introduced. So I'm looking forward to hearing about the experiences of a totally blind consumer using the new Samsung smart flip phone.  

 


Gerald



On 2/20/2020 9:41 AM, Gene wrote:
Your statement about buttons is inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic before.  Most smart phones already had very few buttons, and, as for the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough comments on lists like this that the button's elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone.  Evidently, the screen simulates the presence of a button by vibrating.  I'm not saying I definitely understand the situation and I await other comments but how many people have you seen say they stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the home button? 
 
You often state the worst case interpretation of situations.
 
Gene
----- Origial Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?


According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet.  But in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.  And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.  This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.


Gerald



On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Lisa,
 
I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.
 

 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...




locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Pamela Dominguez
 

The one they are talking about recently is a regular smart phone with a touch screen, but it folds in half and flips shut. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Belville
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 8:02 PM
To: Tech Talk
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@frontier.com


locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Gene
 

I should add that there is a problem with my phone that those who want very much to use it as an alarm clock should know about.  There is a bug that, if you set the alarm, then change the setting, the alarm will often sound at both the old time and the new time for one day.  I don't think it will for more than one day.  Also, it appears that if you set the alarm, let it go off at that time, then change it to a new time, that it will go off at the old time and the new time the next day.  I haven't made a thorough study of how long this lasts, but it appears to me to happen for one day. 
 
I put up with this problem because that problem isn't important to how I use the alarm and also, because the phone I have appears to be the best for what I want a phone to do at the price.  But this problem isn't discussed in the review I sent. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

It isn't clear to me what is being asked for.  Does the person want a smart phone that is a flip phone, that is, a full smart phone, or is he interested in a more capable flip phone which will do more of what a smart phone does and yet is a flip phone? 
 
I don't particularly like this phone as a blind user because accessibility isn't well implemented.  But it is well enough implemented that I can do what I want with it and it appeared to be perhaps the best option for what I want, a flip phone that has features like a voice recorder, and other features such as a note taker, an earphone jack, and one thing I really like, an FM radio. 
 
And for a sighted person, this phone gets pretty good reviews, if this one is anything to judge by.  I looked up one.  You may look up others to compare.  The phone is the Alcatel Go flip 3.
 
I am going to be doing a presentation on the Go Flip 3 in March, I think the 9th.  I'll show how to work around limitations in accessibility to allow features such as contacts to be used that would seem to many not usable.  Those not interested in the phone may benefit from listening as well, because the kinds of techniques and logic I use may be of important benefit in other situations of limited accessibility.
 
Gene


Re: nvda and page brakes

Ann Parsons
 

Morning all,

Page Breaks are integral to a document that may be marked up for conversion to DAISY. Depending on what kind of document this is, you do *not* want to remove the page-breaks. Getting NVDA to not announce page-breaks, yes, certainly, but removing them from the document is a recipe for disaster.

Ann P.


Original message:


Hi Heather,
How about trying to remove the page breaks? Try the note below:
From: Brian Lee
You might consider using the "Find and Replace" dialog box to remove all manual page breaks.
1. Use CTRL+H to move focus into the Replace page of the dialog box.
2. In the Find What edit box type a caret followed by a small m. (The
caret is a shift on the number 6 and be sure not to capitalize the m).
3. Tab to the replace edit box but just leave it blank if you don't want to replace the manual page breaks with anything else.
4. If you want to keep any of the manual page breaks then tab to the Replace button and use spacebar. You can then use the Next button to move
to the manual page breaks and remove one at a time. Otherwise, tab to the Replace all button and use spacebar.
5. Word will let you know how many manual page breaks it removed and you can press spacebar on the OK button.
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@charter.net <mailto:brianllee@charter.net>
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: heather albright <mailto:kd5cbl@gmail.com>
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 2:12 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] nvda and page brakes

Hay does anyone know how to make NVDA not announce page breaks? I went threw all the settings and tried to turn this feature off. When I am reading a book, I don’t want to here “page break…page break. I would love to NVDA full time but, the page break issues when I am reading turns me off; it is really annoying to me! Thanks Heather
--
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Not all those who wander are lost."


locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Gerald Levy
 


I suspect that many "blind" consumers who use smart phones that are completely devoid of tactile buttons are not really "blind" at all, but visually impaired and retain some funtional vision to navigate around a touchscreen.  Those who are totally blind and purport to use a touchscreen smart phone probably had a lot of sighted help. Which is why smart phones with tactile keypads like the BlindShell and Smart Vision have been introduced. So I'm looking forward to hearing about the experiences of a totally blind consumer using the new Samsung smart flip phone.  

 


Gerald



On 2/20/2020 9:41 AM, Gene wrote:
Your statement about buttons is inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic before.  Most smart phones already had very few buttons, and, as for the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough comments on lists like this that the button's elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone.  Evidently, the screen simulates the presence of a button by vibrating.  I'm not saying I definitely understand the situation and I await other comments but how many people have you seen say they stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the home button? 
 
You often state the worst case interpretation of situations.
 
Gene
----- Origial Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?


According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet.  But in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.  And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.  This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.


Gerald



On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Lisa,
 
I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.
 

 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...




locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Gene
 

It appears, from two friends of mine who have one, that it does what it is supposed to do.  I'll wait to see what others on the list who use it have to say before commenting further, if I have anything to add.  But what do you want to use a phone for and do you want to spend perhaps $250 more than you can get an off-the-shelf phone for?  It depends in part on what you want a phone to do. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

Does anyone know anything about the blind shell phone?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

Your statement about buttons is inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic before.  Most smart phones already had very few buttons, and, as for the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough comments on lists like this that the button's elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone.  Evidently, the screen simulates the presence of a button by vibrating.  I'm not saying I definitely understand the situation and I await other comments but how many people have you seen say they stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the home button? 

 

You often state the worst case interpretation of situations.

 

Gene

----- Origial Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

 

According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet.  But in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.  And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.  This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Lisa,

 

I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.

 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

To: Tech Talk

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...



locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Monte Single
 

I’m sure it is smart and it flips.

But holy moly, 1300 u s dollars and then you have to pay x dollars a month to use it!!

Great for those with money to burn.

I purchased a second-hand I phone for 20 per cent of that price and it does way more than what I need from a smart  phone.There’s more than one reason to call it a wallet phone.

…and on that note,  I fold…

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February-20-20 8:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

Your statement about buttons is inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic before.  Most smart phones already had very few buttons, and, as for the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough comments on lists like this that the button's elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone.  Evidently, the screen simulates the presence of a button by vibrating.  I'm not saying I definitely understand the situation and I await other comments but how many people have you seen say they stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the home button? 

 

You often state the worst case interpretation of situations.

 

Gene

----- Origial Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

 

According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet.  But in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.  And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.  This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Lisa,

 

I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.

 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...



Jaws 2019 losing focus in Win 10

Dave
 

Hello,


I use both Thunderbird for an Email Client, and Jarte' as my Word
Processor.


In both programs, as I am Typing  or Editing something, Jaws will not
always Track the line where the Cursor is located.


Let's say I have a document of 20 lines.  I can be typing away in either
program, on line 21, and when I go back to read what I have typed, I
find that the cursor was actually on line 18, or 19, instead of the new
line 21.


When this happens, what ever I have typed has been inserted into the
document at line 18 or 19.


I did call JAWS and the person I spoke with said they didn't support
Jaws in Jarte', so that is how they bailed out of the Tech call.


At the time, I had yet to discover it was happening in Thunderbird as
well, so had only mentioned the problem in Jarte'.


Another aggravating thing is that when I use either Brave, or Firefox,
there are times when Jaws will not keep track of where my position was
on which ever Web Page I might be on at the time.


I may have jarte" open, and one of these Browsers Open.  I am on the Web
Page, and then Press ALT-Tab to switch out of the Browser and into
Jarte'.  When I press ALT-Tab again, this time to go back to the Web
Page, Jaws has lost my position on the Web Page, and the Cursor is up
near the top of the Web Page, and I need to Arrow or Tab back down to
where I was before the Switch to Jarte'.


Even during writing this Email in Thunder bird, when I read the line the
cursor is located, it reads the line above the line I am typing on.


Don't know if I have a video Driver issue, or something else is going on.


Anyone out there with any sort of Suggestion to fix this?


Thanks in advance,


Grumpy Dave


locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Gene
 

It isn't clear to me what is being asked for.  Does the person want a smart phone that is a flip phone, that is, a full smart phone, or is he interested in a more capable flip phone which will do more of what a smart phone does and yet is a flip phone? 
 
I don't particularly like this phone as a blind user because accessibility isn't well implemented.  But it is well enough implemented that I can do what I want with it and it appeared to be perhaps the best option for what I want, a flip phone that has features like a voice recorder, and other features such as a note taker, an earphone jack, and one thing I really like, an FM radio. 
 
And for a sighted person, this phone gets pretty good reviews, if this one is anything to judge by.  I looked up one.  You may look up others to compare.  The phone is the Alcatel Go flip 3.
 
I am going to be doing a presentation on the Go Flip 3 in March, I think the 9th.  I'll show how to work around limitations in accessibility to allow features such as contacts to be used that would seem to many not usable.  Those not interested in the phone may benefit from listening as well, because the kinds of techniques and logic I use may be of important benefit in other situations of limited accessibility.
 
Gene


locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Terry Olandese
 

Does anyone know anything about the blind shell phone?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

Your statement about buttons is inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic before.  Most smart phones already had very few buttons, and, as for the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough comments on lists like this that the button's elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone.  Evidently, the screen simulates the presence of a button by vibrating.  I'm not saying I definitely understand the situation and I await other comments but how many people have you seen say they stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the home button? 

 

You often state the worst case interpretation of situations.

 

Gene

----- Origial Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

 

According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet.  But in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.  And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.  This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:



Hi Lisa,

 

I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.

 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

 

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...



locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Gene
 

Your statement about buttons is inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic before.  Most smart phones already had very few buttons, and, as for the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough comments on lists like this that the button's elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone.  Evidently, the screen simulates the presence of a button by vibrating.  I'm not saying I definitely understand the situation and I await other comments but how many people have you seen say they stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the home button? 
 
You often state the worst case interpretation of situations.
 
Gene
----- Origial Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?


According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet.  But in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.  And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.  This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.


Gerald



On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Lisa,
 
I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.
 

 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


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locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Lenron
 

It bombed I am sure like most of that sort of thing does. The price
was probably out of this world. Anyways on the subject of this
foldable phone this is just second gen tech, so I am sure it has some
growing to do. I feel like they will get it right though. I would
still try it because it's something different. Also phones with
buttons not a big deal to me these days. I miss the days of phones
with nice keyboards but it's not what most people care about so they
will not be made much anymore.

On 2/20/20, jan howells via Groups.Io <gale7978=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
A While ago, I have heard about a combo smart phone with a keypad
with buttons at the bottom, and a touch screen at the top with a
small braille display at the bottom. Does anyone know whatever
became of that, or did it bomb? LOL! I think that the had ten or
12 cells. So it could be used by the touch screen with the
little braille display, or the buttons. I thought that it was
going to be available in 2020. Has anyone heard? Thank you.

Jan



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Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Outlook 2010 issues

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Use f6 and shift f6 and just keep tapping and you will get to the folder list, and shift f6 will while tapping take you the other direction through the outlook sections

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: February 20, 2020 5:31
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 issues

 

From your Inbox, try getting to your folders try using the keystroke Control+Y if Shift+Tabbing isn’t helping you out to access your folders.

 

As far as your accounts concern.

 

1. From focus within your inbox, Alt+F for the file menu.

2. Arrow down to Info and press enter.

3. Tab to add new account or something similar and press enter.

4. It's going to place you on email account by default (you can arrow down here and see the other options) available.

5. Tab through and fill in the various areas that are asking for your information specifically for your email account.

6. Tab to next or finish and if everything is correct, it will send a test message verifying this unless you have unchecked this option. If it ends up not working, go through it again and this time instead of selecting email account where you arrowed down in step 4 and this time, arrow down to manually configure server settings.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 issues

 

HI all,

I’m having some trouble with outlook 2010. I cannot navigate to my folders without using my mouse cursor for either Jaws or NVDA. It’s driving me crazy, Also, I’ve set up rules and am now not getting notice of any new emails at all, regardless if they go to my inbox or not.

Finally, I need to add around half a dozen additional accounts to outlook, but can’t sort out how to do so, they are NOT gmail accounts.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Sarah


locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

A While ago, I have heard about a combo smart phone with a keypad with buttons at the bottom, and a touch screen at the top with a small braille display at the bottom. Does anyone know whatever became of that, or did it bomb? LOL! I think that the had ten or 12 cells. So it could be used by the touch screen with the little braille display, or the buttons. I thought that it was going to be available in 2020. Has anyone heard? Thank you.

Jan


Re: Outlook 2010 issues

Smiling?
 

From your Inbox, try getting to your folders try using the keystroke Control+Y if Shift+Tabbing isn’t helping you out to access your folders.

 

As far as your accounts concern.

 

1. From focus within your inbox, Alt+F for the file menu.

2. Arrow down to Info and press enter.

3. Tab to add new account or something similar and press enter.

4. It's going to place you on email account by default (you can arrow down here and see the other options) available.

5. Tab through and fill in the various areas that are asking for your information specifically for your email account.

6. Tab to next or finish and if everything is correct, it will send a test message verifying this unless you have unchecked this option. If it ends up not working, go through it again and this time instead of selecting email account where you arrowed down in step 4 and this time, arrow down to manually configure server settings.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 issues

 

HI all,

I’m having some trouble with outlook 2010. I cannot navigate to my folders without using my mouse cursor for either Jaws or NVDA. It’s driving me crazy, Also, I’ve set up rules and am now not getting notice of any new emails at all, regardless if they go to my inbox or not.

Finally, I need to add around half a dozen additional accounts to outlook, but can’t sort out how to do so, they are NOT gmail accounts.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Sarah


locked Re: New Smart Flip Phone?

Gerald Levy
 


According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet.  But in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.  And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.  This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.


Gerald



On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:

Hi Lisa,
 
I heard about a phone like you're describing just the other day and I think they said that Samsung was the company  producing it.  From the way the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta be!  LOL  LOL  Check out the link below for a review.
 

 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?

Hi, all.


My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?


TIA


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...




Does anyone make a bluetooth folding keyboard with a number pad?

James Bentley
 

Hi all,

 

I’m wanting a Bluetooth folding keyboard that works on Android, iPhones, and Windows.  I am hoping for a number pad.

 

 

Does such an animal exist?

 

James B

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