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Re: malware bytes tray application

heather albright
 

Do you know of a key stroke to get rid of this? I have jaws and nvda, mainly a jaws user. I only have the free version as my copy  expired. Thanks, Heather

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

 

I had been back & forth with MWb for a long time about this window that appears.  The trouble was that only people using screen reading programs were seeing / hearing this message and sighted people didn't even know it was there.  I had a screen share with a MWB higher level person to show them / let them hear what happens and so they could actually hear what's being reported by screen reading programs.  Well this was back around version, 3.4, or so.  Anyways they did eliminate this screen in Windows 7, but never could eliminate it in Windows 10.  I quit running MWB many months ago because everytime they did an update they would screw up all the prior improvements for blind users.  I got so tired of all the hassle and having to go through all the chains of command again & again before anyone would take the problems the blind users are having Now with, MWB version, 4..., is out and when I tried it I could only take about 30 minutes of the user interface before I totally removed that major pain in the A** completely!  I could have used the Jaws touch cursor and other navigation keystrokes, but I then could by no means tell people the program is accessible for the screen reader users that don't know these keystrokes.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:32 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

 

I'm not sure but you may have to let it be there.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:06 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

 

I'm running the paid program so it sounds like there's nothing I can do. Oh well I'm used to it now, I was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of it.

Troy

On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:

Are you using the free or paid version?  I don't know if you can or should get rid of it if you are using the paid version, using real time protection.  If you are using the free version, set it not to run at bootup, then exit the program.  I haven't used the program for quite some time and I haven't worked with settings for even longer but someone can tell you how.  You don't have real time protection with the free program so it doesn't matter if it runs when you aren't doing a scan.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:20 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

 

Hi all,

Whenever windows 10 comes up after I either reboot or when I initially
boot-up in the morning I have a window on my taskbar that says malware
bytes tray application. Is there a way to get rid of that? I've had the
paid version of malware bytes for a long time but this has only started
happening with the later versions.

Thanks.

Troy



 

 


Re: malware bytes tray application

Mike B
 


I had been back & forth with MWb for a long time about this window that appears.  The trouble was that only people using screen reading programs were seeing / hearing this message and sighted people didn't even know it was there.  I had a screen share with a MWB higher level person to show them / let them hear what happens and so they could actually hear what's being reported by screen reading programs.  Well this was back around version, 3.4, or so.  Anyways they did eliminate this screen in Windows 7, but never could eliminate it in Windows 10.  I quit running MWB many months ago because everytime they did an update they would screw up all the prior improvements for blind users.  I got so tired of all the hassle and having to go through all the chains of command again & again before anyone would take the problems the blind users are having Now with, MWB version, 4..., is out and when I tried it I could only take about 30 minutes of the user interface before I totally removed that major pain in the A** completely!  I could have used the Jaws touch cursor and other navigation keystrokes, but I then could by no means tell people the program is accessible for the screen reader users that don't know these keystrokes.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

I'm not sure but you may have to let it be there.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

I'm running the paid program so it sounds like there's nothing I can do. Oh well I'm used to it now, I was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of it.

Troy


On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Are you using the free or paid version?  I don't know if you can or should get rid of it if you are using the paid version, using real time protection.  If you are using the free version, set it not to run at bootup, then exit the program.  I haven't used the program for quite some time and I haven't worked with settings for even longer but someone can tell you how.  You don't have real time protection with the free program so it doesn't matter if it runs when you aren't doing a scan.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:20 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

Hi all,

Whenever windows 10 comes up after I either reboot or when I initially
boot-up in the morning I have a window on my taskbar that says malware
bytes tray application. Is there a way to get rid of that? I've had the
paid version of malware bytes for a long time but this has only started
happening with the later versions.

Thanks.

Troy






Re: MS Office 2016

Quentin Christensen
 

Office 2016 works fine with NVDA at least (and in fairness, I'd assume it should work fine with Jaws also).  If you do get tempted to go further into using advanced features of Word, we have a training module on Microsoft Word with NVDA:  https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/  It's only $30 Australian, which still should just come in under your $24 cost of Office itself :)

There is a newer version of Office, Office 2019, which like Office 2016, is a standalone, one-off purchase.  Otherwise the newest version of Office which is constantly updated, is Office 365, which is a yearly or monthly subscription.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:24 PM Dave <dlh007@...> wrote:
Hello,


I have such a small Need for Microsoft Word, that I don't have it
installed on any of my Systems.  Instead I use Jarte, and for my needs,
it works great.  It is Small, Quick, Simple, and works well with either
of my Screen Readers.


However, there are times when I need to send a file to someone using a
Microsoft Format, either MS Word 2013 or newer.


For the price of $36 down to $24 for Office Pro 2016, this deal is hard
to resist.


Guess my question is this, How Accessible is Office 2016?


I use the Spell Checker, and need to change Fonts and Font Sizes.  Need
to do Underlining and some Outlining.


I also need to read large Documents of more than 100 pages.


I assume that Jaws 2019, and the latest NVDA Screen Readers will read
enough in Word 2016 to do those items I listed above.


But, I thought I would ask here first, since these days, very little
should be Assumed.


Oh, and if it matters, I am running everything on a Win 10 Pro System,
with an I7 Chip and loads of Memory.


Isn't there a Newer version of MS Word?  2018, 19 or 20?


But, for $36 to $24, This deal is a temptation.


I would Love to hear from users of Office 2016 and hear how well it
works with Screen Readers.


Thanks for any reply,


Grumpy Dave








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Re: 6 dot braille label maker

jan howells <gale7978@...>
 

Can the ADA assist with getting a hard braille copy of a manual?


Re: malware bytes tray application

Gene
 

I'm not sure but you may have to let it be there.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

I'm running the paid program so it sounds like there's nothing I can do. Oh well I'm used to it now, I was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of it.

Troy


On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Are you using the free or paid version?  I don't know if you can or should get rid of it if you are using the paid version, using real time protection.  If you are using the free version, set it not to run at bootup, then exit the program.  I haven't used the program for quite some time and I haven't worked with settings for even longer but someone can tell you how.  You don't have real time protection with the free program so it doesn't matter if it runs when you aren't doing a scan.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:20 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

Hi all,

Whenever windows 10 comes up after I either reboot or when I initially
boot-up in the morning I have a window on my taskbar that says malware
bytes tray application. Is there a way to get rid of that? I've had the
paid version of malware bytes for a long time but this has only started
happening with the later versions.

Thanks.

Troy






MS Office 2016

Dave
 

Hello,


I have such a small Need for Microsoft Word, that I don't have it
installed on any of my Systems.  Instead I use Jarte, and for my needs,
it works great.  It is Small, Quick, Simple, and works well with either
of my Screen Readers.


However, there are times when I need to send a file to someone using a
Microsoft Format, either MS Word 2013 or newer.


For the price of $36 down to $24 for Office Pro 2016, this deal is hard
to resist.


Guess my question is this, How Accessible is Office 2016?


I use the Spell Checker, and need to change Fonts and Font Sizes.  Need
to do Underlining and some Outlining.


I also need to read large Documents of more than 100 pages.


I assume that Jaws 2019, and the latest NVDA Screen Readers will read
enough in Word 2016 to do those items I listed above.


But, I thought I would ask here first, since these days, very little
should be Assumed.


Oh, and if it matters, I am running everything on a Win 10 Pro System,
with an I7 Chip and loads of Memory.


Isn't there a Newer version of MS Word?  2018, 19 or 20?


But, for $36 to $24, This deal is a temptation.


I would Love to hear from users of Office 2016 and hear how well it
works with Screen Readers.


Thanks for any reply,


Grumpy Dave


Re: NLS cartrage

Gene
 

That isn't what System Volume information  is or does.  As I said, it is used by System Restore.  It is what System Restore uses.  It does some other things I didn't know about such as keeping information if you run the file indexing service.  See this article:
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,

System Volume Information tells the computer how much of the cartridge
has been used and is worth having if you try to put too much stuff on
the cartridge.

You could do worse than to google filedir and download a copy.  You
might find it useful.  I just tried that, and I couldn't find it, but I
do have a dropbox link for you.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rwdh9hdyctj50rk/dirsetup.exe?dl=1

HTH,
Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."



Re: malware bytes tray application

Troy Burnham
 

I'm running the paid program so it sounds like there's nothing I can do. Oh well I'm used to it now, I was just wondering if there was a way to get rid of it.

Troy


On 2/13/2020 8:29 AM, Gene wrote:
Are you using the free or paid version?  I don't know if you can or should get rid of it if you are using the paid version, using real time protection.  If you are using the free version, set it not to run at bootup, then exit the program.  I haven't used the program for quite some time and I haven't worked with settings for even longer but someone can tell you how.  You don't have real time protection with the free program so it doesn't matter if it runs when you aren't doing a scan.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:20 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] malware bytes tray application

Hi all,

Whenever windows 10 comes up after I either reboot or when I initially
boot-up in the morning I have a window on my taskbar that says malware
bytes tray application. Is there a way to get rid of that? I've had the
paid version of malware bytes for a long time but this has only started
happening with the later versions.

Thanks.

Troy






Re: NLS cartrage

Gene
 

It does.  And you can't open the folder because you get an access denied message.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

If you look at the system volume information properties, it will probably
report zero bytes.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


System volume information is used by system restore.  You may have to tell
Windows not to monitor that drive to keep that file from being placed on the
drive.  If no one tells you how, I can look up information but someone may
tell you.

If you want to find out how much room it is taking up, open the properties
for the drive and compare the amount of free space with the amount of used
space when nothing else is on the drive.  System Volume information can't be
looked at for size using drive properties.

It may be, as Richard says, that you are going through work to free up space
that isn't enough to matter.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Hi Howard,
Every drive has system volume information, usually hidden,
for identification by the operating system.
The size of that folder is usually not enough to worry about.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone
on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I
mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> Hi,
>
> OK, I'm just guessing here.  Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to
> format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library.  And, that should not be
> done because it isn't your personal property.
>
> However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase.  And, like
> all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Howard Traxler
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage
>
> Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
> the stuff on it.  And there are certain folders that windows won't
> delete; "System Volume Information" for example.  I don't know what
> that's even for anyway.  Just something to waste space.
>
> Howard
>
> On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
>> Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge.  But if you
>> really do, it should be phat 32.  Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
>> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
>> To: TechTalk
>> Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer.  It offers
>> four different types of format.  I'm wondering which one I should choose?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>













Re: NLS cartrage

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

System Volume Information tells the computer how much of the cartridge has been used and is worth having if you try to put too much stuff on the cartridge.

You could do worse than to google filedir and download a copy. You might find it useful. I just tried that, and I couldn't find it, but I do have a dropbox link for you.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rwdh9hdyctj50rk/dirsetup.exe?dl=1

HTH,
Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: NLS cartrage

Richard
 

If you look at the system volume information properties, it will probably
report zero bytes.

HTH,
Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


System volume information is used by system restore. You may have to tell
Windows not to monitor that drive to keep that file from being placed on the
drive. If no one tells you how, I can look up information but someone may
tell you.

If you want to find out how much room it is taking up, open the properties
for the drive and compare the amount of free space with the amount of used
space when nothing else is on the drive. System Volume information can't be
looked at for size using drive properties.

It may be, as Richard says, that you are going through work to free up space
that isn't enough to matter.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Hi Howard,
Every drive has system volume information, usually hidden,
for identification by the operating system.
The size of that folder is usually not enough to worry about.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone
on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I
mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi,

OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to
format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be
done because it isn't your personal property.

However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like
all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't
delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what
that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
really do, it should be phat 32. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,
I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers
four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose?

Thanks.
Howard











Re: 6 dot braille label maker

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Touche! Actually, I think the comment RE googling referred to getting a copy of the manual, not reading the serial number which is inaccessible.

Ann P.


Original message:

Oh, just wondering what does googling something have to do with needing a brailled serial number being placed on a braille device! Or why should I be disappointed that I was not given a braille manual or even a braille guide to go with my braille only device! It is a “braille,” oriented device that came with a “print manual,” and a “print serial number,” on the bottom of a braille oriented device. How many sighted people do you see walking around with a braille labeler that does not have a spec of print accept for that lovely serial number on the bottom that I am told one has to have super vision to read! Cheers Heather
From: Tim Grady <mailto:timfgrady758@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 1:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker
Don’t you know how to google info?
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 6:43 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker
Hi am not to pleased with this thing and have not even used it yet. I really wish there was a e-mail to send my complaint too! So this is for the blind person who reads braille and they cant even be bothered to include a braille product guide to the unit! They are to lazy to emboss the serial number on the back of the unit however, the serial number is in print and the manual is in print too. So the catch was when I called to ask where the braille guide was, they in there infinite wisdom asked me the blind user for a serial number. So I am not lazy so I had to pull out my app off my phone to see if it could read it. Apparently it was written on a shiny area on the back and I could not get my app to capture the serial number or the lighting was off who knows. So if you can put braille on the unit all over, why the heck cant you emboss the serial number too. I am blind not stupid I do not need it to say six dot all over the unit once was enough. So Who are the morons who provide braille items and still expect you to have sighted assistance in 2020? I am glad I did not purchase this thing, it was given to me as a medical device! A device I still cant use yet as I have to wait for snail male to get my embossed braille guide. Sie! Heather
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: 6 dot braille label maker

Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Googling is definitely a basic computer skill, but many do not have it. Moreover, if the manual is in .pdf, she will have to convert it to a .brf file if she has access to paperless braille.

Apparently, she's supposed to be getting the hard copy manual tomorrow. Let's see what happens.

Ann P.

Original message:

Tim, unfortunately some people can’t, but I suspect giving them a hard time about it is unlikely to encourage them to learn.



On 13 Feb 2020, at 19:57, Tim Grady <timfgrady758@gmail.com> wrote:



Don’t you know how to google info?
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 6:43 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker
Hi am not to pleased with this thing and have not even used it yet. I really wish there was a e-mail to send my complaint too! So this is for the blind person who reads braille and they cant even be bothered to include a braille product guide to the unit! They are to lazy to emboss the serial number on the back of the unit however, the serial number is in print and the manual is in print too. So the catch was when I called to ask where the braille guide was, they in there infinite wisdom asked me the blind user for a serial number. So I am not lazy so I had to pull out my app off my phone to see if it could read it. Apparently it was written on a shiny area on the back and I could not get my app to capture the serial number or the lighting was off who knows. So if you can put braille on the unit all over, why the heck cant you emboss the serial number too. I am blind not stupid I do not need it to say six dot all over the unit once was enough. So Who are the morons who provide braille items and still expect you to have sighted assistance in 2020? I am glad I did not purchase this thing, it was given to me as a medical device! A device I still cant use yet as I have to wait for snail male to get my embossed braille guide. Sie! Heather
--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: NLS cartrage

Gene
 

System volume information is used by system restore.  You may have to tell Windows not to monitor that drive to keep that file from being placed on the drive.  If no one tells you how, I can look up information but someone may tell you. 
If you want to find out how much room it is taking up, open the properties for the drive and compare the amount of free space with the amount of used space when nothing else is on the drive.  System Volume information can't be looked at for size using drive properties. 
 
It may be, as Richard says, that you are going through work to free up space that isn't enough to matter.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi Howard,
Every drive has system volume information, usually hidden,
for identification by the operating system.
The size of that folder is usually not enough to worry about.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@...>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone
on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I
mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> Hi,
>
> OK, I'm just guessing here.  Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to
> format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library.  And, that should not be
> done because it isn't your personal property.
>
> However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase.  And, like
> all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
> Howard Traxler
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage
>
> Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
> the stuff on it.  And there are certain folders that windows won't
> delete; "System Volume Information" for example.  I don't know what
> that's even for anyway.  Just something to waste space.
>
> Howard
>
> On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
>> Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge.  But if you
>> really do, it should be phat 32.  Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
>> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
>> To: TechTalk
>> Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer.  It offers
>> four different types of format.  I'm wondering which one I should choose?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Howard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: NLS cartrage

Richard
 

Hi Howard,
Every drive has system volume information, usually hidden,
for identification by the operating system.
The size of that folder is usually not enough to worry about.

HTH,
Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler7@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage


Absolutely correct. I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone
on one of these lists. And windows always leaves the folder I
mentioned. So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi,

OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to
format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be
done because it isn't your personal property.

However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like
all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't
delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what
that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
really do, it should be phat 32. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,
I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers
four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose?

Thanks.
Howard











Re: NLS cartrage

Howard Traxler
 

Absolutely correct.  I have a half dozen that I purchased from someone on one of these lists.  And windows always leaves the folder I mentioned.  So, I'd like to make a clean cartrage before I stick boox on it.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 4:23 PM, James Bentley wrote:
Hi,

OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be done because it isn't your personal property.

However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't
delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what
that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
really do, it should be phat 32. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,
I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers
four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose?

Thanks.
Howard










Re: 6 dot braille label maker

Gene
 

First, you made a general statement in your previous message, not applying to this situation, specifically.  They may be breaking the law in this specific instance. 
 
Second, you are making general statements that are unsupportable because they are general where such generalizations can't correctly be made.  Braille is and will always be the best way to look something up?  What kind of Braille, paper Braille or computer Braille.  No sighted person would say that a print book is anywhere near as efficient to look something up with as a word processor document or a web page or an Internet search. 
 
With Braille, just as with print, the point is what you use to look something up, not whether it is Braille or print.  You can read the results using a Braille display with a computer or listen with speech.  They are both fast and there is little, difference, there may be a slight difference at times, such as checking the spelling of a word if you are checking the spelling to learn it for yourself.  It may be faster often, to use a Braille display for this purpose. 
 
But you simply can't maintain that paper Braille can compare in efficiency even remotely, to using a computer. 
 
Obviously, the serial number should be in Braille.  Braille should be available for those who want it.  You don't know how many people want it and a company can, rightly, make this optional if they tell people that Braille is available.  its obviously cheaper to have material available in a computer document.  I used the example of an audio file not because it is the desirable format, but to demonstrate that the law isn't dictatorial or specific.  Reasonable is the important word.  and reasonable doesn't dictate how something id done, other than that it is reasonable.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: brian
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker

    Heather is right if you can't use audio then yes they do have to provide braille they just don't want to comply with the ada they just want to take the easy out because they are lazy and don't care how would they feel if one day they find themselves blind and they can't get braille.  For us it's always just use audio or go on line but the sighted have print but we are denied the writen word when braille is the best sulution for blind people.  Just try to look somthing up on an audio cd or find it on line.  Lets not forget that some people don't have unlimited data if they do have internet.  There is just not only one sulution that is best for everyone but to them there is.  Braille is and will always be the best way to look somthing up just as sighted people use print.  Try telling sighted people to just use audio or go on line.  Not everyone has on line access.  aAny company that sells products for the blind and refuses to provide braille should be ashamed of themselves and should be forced to by law.

Brian Sackrider

On 2/13/2020 2:24 PM, heather albright wrote:

I think it is a reasonable accommodation  as I am considered partially deaf blind and I do not get a lot of things threw audio. One of the reasons I was given a electronic braille labeler was because I have mussel weakness and needed a way to use braille. It was noted that, I do not use audio so I needed away to have braille as an alternative instead of say, a pen labeler that uses audio or the hand held labeler which my mussel weakness prevents me from using. I cant use that stupid prescription audio thing, I have to label all my stuff by hand!  So knowing this, how can I be given a medical device, as they coded it, without braille! Is that not why the social security was ordered to provide letters in braille format! I think it falls under the same thing. Heather

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker

 

I doubt any law mandates that something be made accessible in that specific a way.  If it is accessible because a document is given that you can use, PDF or otherwise, even an audio file, I think that would satisfy the law.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:02 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker

 

Well, I was given this device by my insureance provider threw mobility and seating. They purchased it from a rehav place which know one has bothered to tell me wich one. So I called Logan  tec up in Dallas who wanted to send me to a site to download the pdf file. I insisted I get a embossed braille coppy. They are the original makers of the device which is currently sitting on my desk till I get the manual for it. I can only turn it on but, that is all I know how to do. I know what the different parts are but, do not know how to operate it. I am still waiting for my insureance to tell me where exactly they purchased the device from. I hope to get my manual tomorrow. I was thinking, if they bought a device under the medical laws, does the section508 law apply. I was not given materials in my format when I received it.  I will not bother my NFB chapter about this, do not think they would care here, sie! Cheers Heather

 

From: jan howells via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker

 

I agree! When our nfb chapter meets next month, I will bring this

up for discussion.  Braille will never die! We will not let it. 

It is the quickest way for us.  It is faster than speech if you

already know it.  You should not have to open an app and aim a

camera that may not read it.  I was not aware that Roger can

braille the manual for his items.  But I am very happy with

Roger.  He puts the serial number in braille on the box.  He

works harder than HumanWare.  But if these agencies claim that

they sell products for us, then they should follow through and

not do half their job.  The product should definitely come with a

braille manual and serial number.  Thank you.

 

Jan

 

 

 

 


Re: 6 dot braille label maker

adam morris
 

Hi Heather,

I have one of these units so happy to help re operations till you get your guide.

The email address to contact them is:

info@...


On 13/02/2020 10:42, heather albright wrote:

Hi am not to pleased with this thing and have not even used it yet.  I really wish there was a e-mail to send my complaint too! So this is for the blind person who reads braille and they cant even be bothered to include a braille product guide to the unit! They are to lazy to emboss the serial number on the back of the unit however, the serial number is in print and the manual is in print too. So the catch was when I called to ask where the braille guide was, they in there infinite  wisdom asked me the blind user for a serial number. So I am not lazy so I had to pull out my app off my phone to see if it could read it. Apparently it was written on a shiny area on the back and I could not get my app to capture the serial number or the lighting was off who knows. So if you can put braille on the unit all over, why the heck cant you emboss the serial number too. I am blind not stupid I do not need it to say six dot all over the unit once was enough. So Who are the morons who provide braille items and still expect you to have sighted assistance in 2020? I am glad I did not purchase this thing, it was given to me as a medical device! A device I still cant use yet as I have to wait for snail male to get my embossed braille guide. Sie! Heather

 

-- 

Adam Morris
Email, iMessage & FaceTime 
adam@...


Re: 6 dot braille label maker

brian
 

    Heather is right if you can't use audio then yes they do have to provide braille they just don't want to comply with the ada they just want to take the easy out because they are lazy and don't care how would they feel if one day they find themselves blind and they can't get braille.  For us it's always just use audio or go on line but the sighted have print but we are denied the writen word when braille is the best sulution for blind people.  Just try to look somthing up on an audio cd or find it on line.  Lets not forget that some people don't have unlimited data if they do have internet.  There is just not only one sulution that is best for everyone but to them there is.  Braille is and will always be the best way to look somthing up just as sighted people use print.  Try telling sighted people to just use audio or go on line.  Not everyone has on line access.  aAny company that sells products for the blind and refuses to provide braille should be ashamed of themselves and should be forced to by law.

Brian Sackrider

On 2/13/2020 2:24 PM, heather albright wrote:

I think it is a reasonable accommodation  as I am considered partially deaf blind and I do not get a lot of things threw audio. One of the reasons I was given a electronic braille labeler was because I have mussel weakness and needed a way to use braille. It was noted that, I do not use audio so I needed away to have braille as an alternative instead of say, a pen labeler that uses audio or the hand held labeler which my mussel weakness prevents me from using. I cant use that stupid prescription audio thing, I have to label all my stuff by hand!  So knowing this, how can I be given a medical device, as they coded it, without braille! Is that not why the social security was ordered to provide letters in braille format! I think it falls under the same thing. Heather

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker

 

I doubt any law mandates that something be made accessible in that specific a way.  If it is accessible because a document is given that you can use, PDF or otherwise, even an audio file, I think that would satisfy the law.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:02 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker

 

Well, I was given this device by my insureance provider threw mobility and seating. They purchased it from a rehav place which know one has bothered to tell me wich one. So I called Logan  tec up in Dallas who wanted to send me to a site to download the pdf file. I insisted I get a embossed braille coppy. They are the original makers of the device which is currently sitting on my desk till I get the manual for it. I can only turn it on but, that is all I know how to do. I know what the different parts are but, do not know how to operate it. I am still waiting for my insureance to tell me where exactly they purchased the device from. I hope to get my manual tomorrow. I was thinking, if they bought a device under the medical laws, does the section508 law apply. I was not given materials in my format when I received it.  I will not bother my NFB chapter about this, do not think they would care here, sie! Cheers Heather

 

From: jan howells via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] 6 dot braille label maker

 

I agree! When our nfb chapter meets next month, I will bring this

up for discussion.  Braille will never die! We will not let it. 

It is the quickest way for us.  It is faster than speech if you

already know it.  You should not have to open an app and aim a

camera that may not read it.  I was not aware that Roger can

braille the manual for his items.  But I am very happy with

Roger.  He puts the serial number in braille on the box.  He

works harder than HumanWare.  But if these agencies claim that

they sell products for us, then they should follow through and

not do half their job.  The product should definitely come with a

braille manual and serial number.  Thank you.

 

Jan

 

 

 

 


Re: NLS cartrage

James Bentley
 

Hi,

OK, I'm just guessing here. Maybe Pamela is thinking that you want to format a NLS cartridge owned by the NLS library. And, that should not be done because it isn't your personal property.

However, blank NLS cartridges are available for legal purchase. And, like all USB drives, they can become corrupt and need to be formatted.

Cheers,

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Well, I guess formatting the cartrage is a quick way to get rid of all
the stuff on it. And there are certain folders that windows won't
delete; "System Volume Information" for example. I don't know what
that's even for anyway. Just something to waste space.

Howard

On 2/13/2020 11:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
Tell me why you should have to format an NLS cartridge. But if you
really do, it should be phat 32. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 11:26 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] NLS cartrage

Hi all,
I'm trying to format an NLS cartrage on my Win10 computer. It offers
four different types of format. I'm wondering which one I should choose?

Thanks.
Howard





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