Date   

Re: Using Radio Recording Apps, and Streaming

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Sharon, if the signal is lost due to poor connectivity, there's no way for
the said radio app to record anything. There will be quite a bit of
silence!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Annoying Popup Dialogs in Chrome

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Captain Rob, are you reading the article on your Android toy or on your
computer?

If you're reading on your Android toy, you can have GoogleAssistant read the
article to you directly and it will SKIP all those ads. When you launch the
article, just say the words: "READ THIS PAGE" and, within a few seconds,
after a chyme and reconfirmation of the title of what you want read, it will
begin reading the article from beginning to end. Now, the ReadOut feature
of GoogleAssistant DOES NOT work with all browsers; however, it will work
with Chrome; other browsers it works on include Brave, Kiwi, and Epic.
These are the ones I have tested and the rendition was flawless with each
one.

As for the computer side, I'll let the experts TAKE THINGS OVER from me
here. Chrome HASN'T BEEN MY FRIEND on my computer an I should POSE A
TRILLION QUESTIONS sometime soon so I can get help from the house.

Ok boss, stay safe and let's keep chugging along together as we learn to
MAKE OUR TOYS comply with our directives, God bless!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


firefox

Kerryn Gunness
 

hi group
a while back, the group moderaters posted some important info regarding accessible programs etc
i took the opportunity to download firefox, also on the list, i was told to ask for an invitation to install capture challenge software with firefox
here am i, asking for the invite
 
thanks
 


Re: help with vip talking latest version

Mike B
 

Hi Rex,
 
Have you gotten the file?  Just checking before I delete it from my DB account.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper!
But, good news!  Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to:  The Daily Wipe!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:32 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] help with vip talking latest version

I have the latest model of the VIP talking thermostat.  When I press the report button I get the message “your system has run the recommended number of hours call your service provider”.  With the older model there was a way to turn off this alert.  Could someone send me a copy of the manual or help me with turning this alert off?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

rexwisdom@...

 

 

No one is totally worthless; they can always be used as a bad example.

 

 


Re: HP preinstalled software question

Brian Zolo
 

You’re most welcome, Keith!  Let me know what you hear back from your wife’s cousin and I’m ready to assist you any way we can.  During the day, you can reach me at work at 614-692-7124.  After 4 P.M. you can reach me on my cell phone at 614-271-1695.  My e-mail address at work is brian.c.zolo.civ@....  Look forward to hearing from you soon, have a great day and a great week1  BZ!   

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

    Thanks.  Have added you to my address book.   Have sent a info request to my wife's cousin and am awaiting his response.  Will be in touch hopefully shortly.

 

Thanks

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Zolo

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:56 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

Hey there, Keith, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me B Z, grin!  I’ll be glad to assist you if you’d like as I own an hp zbook z17 and I run it on windows 7 but use windows ten at work and certainly would be glad to assist you to see if we can get this thing running much faster for you.  My e-mail address is brianzolo@... and there certainly have been some good suggestions made on the list.  We’ll be happy to walk you through working with msconfig, etc.  Let me know if I can be of further assistance, hey windows ten can be challenging but it’s worth the time and trouble to learn, grin!  Have a great day!  BZ!    

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I received the computer some 2 years ago for christmas.  I installed jaws as window eyes was purchased by jaws.

 

the computer  first had windows 7 or 8 on it, not sure which one.  Microsoft was offering the free upgrade to windows 10 due to them announcing that windows xp would no longer be supported.

 

My wife's cousin, wwho is a jack of all trades (including fixing his own computer when his wife and children install programs that cause issues on his system) upgraded the computer foor me to windows 10.

 

The computer is extremely slow, if I  select to open notepad, the CPU starts working overtime, the internal fan is audible, and the system slows to a crawl.

 

The computer has 8 gigs of ram on board from the factory, and due to the fact that I am moving from windows  xp and window eyes to windows 10 and jaws, I am dealing with a double learning curve.   I assumed that the jaws and windows  10 just did this (slow systems down so much that I can go to the bathroom or make myself a pot of coffee while I wait for a program to open.

 

Not to mention that when trying  to load a webpage on firefox, I can literally be waiting for 5 minutes before the page actually loads.

 

The computer came direct  from a warehouse my wife's company has for "gift point" purchases and had not been tampered with or what not since they recieved it from HP.

 

Shrug.

 

I know I just need to purchase tutorials for windows 10 and jaws and just suck it up, but the money is not there and has not been due to we being one of the lower 20% in the income pbracket here in the USA.

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events.  Did you just get
this computer?  If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin?  At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@...> wrote:
> the computer is over 2 years old.
>
> Keith
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gene
>   To: main@techtalk.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question
>
>
>   But if this is a new machine, why bother?  Will installing a clean
>   version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy?  If a new
>   machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
>   repair or correct the problem.  You wouldn't do so with products in
>   general.  Why not just return it for something else?  Manufactured
>   computers shouldn't have any such problems.  The description, taking
>   five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
>   bahavior.
>
>   Gene
>
>   On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@...> wrote:
>   > Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>   >> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem.  If it did, the
>   >> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
>   >
>   > To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either.  Go ahead and
> remove
>   > it.
>   > There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that you
> don't
>   > really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and photo
>   > packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install of
> w10
>   > from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean. That's
> what
>   > I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>


Annoying Popup Dialogs in Chrome

Rob Hudson
 

I'll be reading an article on CNN or some other website, and then right in the middle of it I get this annoying little dialog blocking the content.
Sign up for our Newsletter!
Or
Subscribe to this or that!
Are there any eextentions that block these annoying popup dialogs? Addblock doesn't do a thing about them.


Re: Using Radio Recording Apps, and Streaming

Gene
 

If you lose a stream, you lose it. The app records from the stream as
it streams.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I would like to listen to radio drama, especially on my iPhone XR with
latest IOS version, but when it stops playing because of poor connection, I
might miss part or the rest of a story. So I'm wondering, when you use a
radio recording app, will it continue to record even though I stop hearing
it?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com



Using Radio Recording Apps, and Streaming

Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,

I would like to listen to radio drama, especially on my iPhone XR with latest IOS version, but when it stops playing because of poor connection, I might miss part or the rest of a story. So I'm wondering, when you use a radio recording app, will it continue to record even though I stop hearing it?

Thanks,


Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids? Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com


Re: Another sorce for audio books

Sharon Hooley
 

I took a look at Chirpbooks, and noticed how it works, and does not have a  subscription fee.  But my question is, do then have the same books that other services like Audible?  I understand there are deep deals now, but once it's over, I recommend subscribing to Audible because that gives you credits for many books that would otherwise cost a lot more.  I have a Gold membership, in which I pay around $15 a month  each.  For example, I could have bought The Word of Promise for around $65 from another website, but was able to download it with  the monthly credit, which I pay only around that monthly $15.  I believe you can save even more if you pay over $100 per year,  you might get unlimited access, if not more credits.  And I think that a lot of the books and magazines are not available on baard or Bookshare.

Hth,  

Is it hard to communicate, even with hearing aids?  Visit
www.CochlearAmericas.com

On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:



I just discovered a source for audio books that I had never heard off before. With all the shelter in place I thought others might need a source for more books. It is chirp.com  They offer audio books at a big discount. I just purchased a book retail $24.95 for $1.99.


Re: HP preinstalled software question

Keith S
 


    Thanks.  Have added you to my address book.   Have sent a info request to my wife's cousin and am awaiting his response.  Will be in touch hopefully shortly.
 
Thanks
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Zolo
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

Hey there, Keith, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me B Z, grin!  I’ll be glad to assist you if you’d like as I own an hp zbook z17 and I run it on windows 7 but use windows ten at work and certainly would be glad to assist you to see if we can get this thing running much faster for you.  My e-mail address is brianzolo@... and there certainly have been some good suggestions made on the list.  We’ll be happy to walk you through working with msconfig, etc.  Let me know if I can be of further assistance, hey windows ten can be challenging but it’s worth the time and trouble to learn, grin!  Have a great day!  BZ!    

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I received the computer some 2 years ago for christmas.  I installed jaws as window eyes was purchased by jaws.

 

the computer  first had windows 7 or 8 on it, not sure which one.  Microsoft was offering the free upgrade to windows 10 due to them announcing that windows xp would no longer be supported.

 

My wife's cousin, wwho is a jack of all trades (including fixing his own computer when his wife and children install programs that cause issues on his system) upgraded the computer foor me to windows 10.

 

The computer is extremely slow, if I  select to open notepad, the CPU starts working overtime, the internal fan is audible, and the system slows to a crawl.

 

The computer has 8 gigs of ram on board from the factory, and due to the fact that I am moving from windows  xp and window eyes to windows 10 and jaws, I am dealing with a double learning curve.   I assumed that the jaws and windows  10 just did this (slow systems down so much that I can go to the bathroom or make myself a pot of coffee while I wait for a program to open.

 

Not to mention that when trying  to load a webpage on firefox, I can literally be waiting for 5 minutes before the page actually loads.

 

The computer came direct  from a warehouse my wife's company has for "gift point" purchases and had not been tampered with or what not since they recieved it from HP.

 

Shrug.

 

I know I just need to purchase tutorials for windows 10 and jaws and just suck it up, but the money is not there and has not been due to we being one of the lower 20% in the income pbracket here in the USA.

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events.  Did you just get
this computer?  If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin?  At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@...> wrote:
> the computer is over 2 years old.
>
> Keith
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gene
>   To: main@techtalk.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question
>
>
>   But if this is a new machine, why bother?  Will installing a clean
>   version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy?  If a new
>   machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
>   repair or correct the problem.  You wouldn't do so with products in
>   general.  Why not just return it for something else?  Manufactured
>   computers shouldn't have any such problems.  The description, taking
>   five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
>   bahavior.
>
>   Gene
>
>   On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@...> wrote:
>   > Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>   >> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem.  If it did, the
>   >> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
>   >
>   > To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either.  Go ahead and
> remove
>   > it.
>   > There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that you
> don't
>   > really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and photo
>   > packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install of
> w10
>   > from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean. That's
> what
>   > I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: talking radio?

Steven Johnson <saxmonger@...>
 

Could I have it too please? I want to get this radio for a friend who is really lonesome from having to stay at home due to COVID 19 orders, but I want to hear it do its thing first.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] talking radio?

Hello Billy
I am not sure where I got the .mp3 file but if you email me off list at buys.fanus@gmail.com I can attach it for you. I am sure David would not mind.
Regards
Fanus


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] talking radio?

hi Fanus, thanks for the info, but do you happen to have a link for the review?.

On 28/03/2020 08:09, Fanus wrote:
Sorry, it is Sangean PR-D17. I got it from Amazon. It is quite expensive but there ws a special when I bought mine. David Woodbridge from Vision Australia did a very good review.
Regards
Fanus


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] talking radio?

hi guys, Looking for a talking radio from Amazon if possible.






Re: HP preinstalled software question

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, Keith, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me B Z, grin!  I’ll be glad to assist you if you’d like as I own an hp zbook z17 and I run it on windows 7 but use windows ten at work and certainly would be glad to assist you to see if we can get this thing running much faster for you.  My e-mail address is brianzolo@... and there certainly have been some good suggestions made on the list.  We’ll be happy to walk you through working with msconfig, etc.  Let me know if I can be of further assistance, hey windows ten can be challenging but it’s worth the time and trouble to learn, grin!  Have a great day!  BZ!    

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I received the computer some 2 years ago for christmas.  I installed jaws as window eyes was purchased by jaws.

 

the computer  first had windows 7 or 8 on it, not sure which one.  Microsoft was offering the free upgrade to windows 10 due to them announcing that windows xp would no longer be supported.

 

My wife's cousin, wwho is a jack of all trades (including fixing his own computer when his wife and children install programs that cause issues on his system) upgraded the computer foor me to windows 10.

 

The computer is extremely slow, if I  select to open notepad, the CPU starts working overtime, the internal fan is audible, and the system slows to a crawl.

 

The computer has 8 gigs of ram on board from the factory, and due to the fact that I am moving from windows  xp and window eyes to windows 10 and jaws, I am dealing with a double learning curve.   I assumed that the jaws and windows  10 just did this (slow systems down so much that I can go to the bathroom or make myself a pot of coffee while I wait for a program to open.

 

Not to mention that when trying  to load a webpage on firefox, I can literally be waiting for 5 minutes before the page actually loads.

 

The computer came direct  from a warehouse my wife's company has for "gift point" purchases and had not been tampered with or what not since they recieved it from HP.

 

Shrug.

 

I know I just need to purchase tutorials for windows 10 and jaws and just suck it up, but the money is not there and has not been due to we being one of the lower 20% in the income pbracket here in the USA.

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events.  Did you just get
this computer?  If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin?  At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@...> wrote:
> the computer is over 2 years old.
>
> Keith
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gene
>   To: main@techtalk.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question
>
>
>   But if this is a new machine, why bother?  Will installing a clean
>   version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy?  If a new
>   machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
>   repair or correct the problem.  You wouldn't do so with products in
>   general.  Why not just return it for something else?  Manufactured
>   computers shouldn't have any such problems.  The description, taking
>   five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
>   bahavior.
>
>   Gene
>
>   On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@...> wrote:
>   > Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>   >> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem.  If it did, the
>   >> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
>   >
>   > To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either.  Go ahead and
> remove
>   > it.
>   > There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that you
> don't
>   > really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and photo
>   > packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install of
> w10
>   > from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean. That's
> what
>   > I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: HP preinstalled software question

Monte Single
 

A 2 year old computer with 8 gig of ram can run win 10 with jaws, no problem.

There are obviously things happening in the background that are hogging the pc resources.

Get your brother in law to have a look.

Your problem is software, not hardware.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: March-29-20 6:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I received the computer some 2 years ago for christmas.  I installed jaws as window eyes was purchased by jaws.

 

the computer  first had windows 7 or 8 on it, not sure which one.  Microsoft was offering the free upgrade to windows 10 due to them announcing that windows xp would no longer be supported.

 

My wife's cousin, wwho is a jack of all trades (including fixing his own computer when his wife and children install programs that cause issues on his system) upgraded the computer foor me to windows 10.

 

The computer is extremely slow, if I  select to open notepad, the CPU starts working overtime, the internal fan is audible, and the system slows to a crawl.

 

The computer has 8 gigs of ram on board from the factory, and due to the fact that I am moving from windows  xp and window eyes to windows 10 and jaws, I am dealing with a double learning curve.   I assumed that the jaws and windows  10 just did this (slow systems down so much that I can go to the bathroom or make myself a pot of coffee while I wait for a program to open.

 

Not to mention that when trying  to load a webpage on firefox, I can literally be waiting for 5 minutes before the page actually loads.

 

The computer came direct  from a warehouse my wife's company has for "gift point" purchases and had not been tampered with or what not since they recieved it from HP.

 

Shrug.

 

I know I just need to purchase tutorials for windows 10 and jaws and just suck it up, but the money is not there and has not been due to we being one of the lower 20% in the income pbracket here in the USA.

 

Keith

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

 

I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events.  Did you just get
this computer?  If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin?  At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@...> wrote:
> the computer is over 2 years old.
>
> Keith
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gene
>   To: main@techtalk.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question
>
>
>   But if this is a new machine, why bother?  Will installing a clean
>   version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy?  If a new
>   machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
>   repair or correct the problem.  You wouldn't do so with products in
>   general.  Why not just return it for something else?  Manufactured
>   computers shouldn't have any such problems.  The description, taking
>   five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
>   bahavior.
>
>   Gene
>
>   On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@...> wrote:
>   > Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>   >> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem.  If it did, the
>   >> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
>   >
>   > To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either.  Go ahead and
> remove
>   > it.
>   > There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that you
> don't
>   > really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and photo
>   > packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install of
> w10
>   > from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean. That's
> what
>   > I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: HP preinstalled software question

Gene
 

This is very important and I didn't realize it until after I sent my
last message. You say he upgraded the computer. What do you mean?
Did he upgrade your previous system or did he remove what was there
and install a completely new Windows 10? I have been assuming that
upgrade means running an upgrade of your previous system, but I don't
know that. We need to know what was done. My previous answer is only
relevant if an upgrade, not a clean installation was done.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Gene via Groups.Io <gsasner=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
That is essential information to address your question. Evidently,
either the computer can't run Windows 10, which I consider very
unlikely, a two year old computer should be able to do so if it is a
standard computer, or something resulting from the upgrade is causing
this problem. You may need to go through the restore procedure that
results in a completely clean copy of Windows 10 being on your
computer. Others can discuss how to do it, but it can be done using
your current installation of Windows 10. Whether that is the first
thing to try, those with more technical information can discuss.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@gmail.com> wrote:
I received the computer some 2 years ago for christmas. I installed jaws
as
window eyes was purchased by jaws.

the computer first had windows 7 or 8 on it, not sure which one.
Microsoft
was offering the free upgrade to windows 10 due to them announcing that
windows xp would no longer be supported.

My wife's cousin, wwho is a jack of all trades (including fixing his own
computer when his wife and children install programs that cause issues on
his system) upgraded the computer foor me to windows 10.

The computer is extremely slow, if I select to open notepad, the CPU
starts
working overtime, the internal fan is audible, and the system slows to a
crawl.

The computer has 8 gigs of ram on board from the factory, and due to the
fact that I am moving from windows xp and window eyes to windows 10 and
jaws, I am dealing with a double learning curve. I assumed that the
jaws
and windows 10 just did this (slow systems down so much that I can go to
the bathroom or make myself a pot of coffee while I wait for a program to
open.

Not to mention that when trying to load a webpage on firefox, I can
literally be waiting for 5 minutes before the page actually loads.

The computer came direct from a warehouse my wife's company has for
"gift
point" purchases and had not been tampered with or what not since they
recieved it from HP.

Shrug.

I know I just need to purchase tutorials for windows 10 and jaws and just
suck it up, but the money is not there and has not been due to we being
one
of the lower 20% in the income pbracket here in the USA.

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question


I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events. Did you just get
this computer? If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin? At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@gmail.com> wrote:
> the computer is over 2 years old.
>
> Keith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene
> To: main@techtalk.groups.io
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question
>
>
> But if this is a new machine, why bother? Will installing a clean
> version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy? If a
new
> machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
> repair or correct the problem. You wouldn't do so with products in
> general. Why not just return it for something else? Manufactured
> computers shouldn't have any such problems. The description,
taking
> five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any
expected
> bahavior.
>
> Gene
>
> On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:
> > Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem. If it did,
the
> >> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
> >
> > To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either. Go ahead
and
> remove
> > it.
> > There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that
you
> don't
> > really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and
photo
> > packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean
install
of
> w10
> > from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean.
That's
> what
> > I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>








Re: HP preinstalled software question

Gene
 

That is essential information to address your question. Evidently,
either the computer can't run Windows 10, which I consider very
unlikely, a two year old computer should be able to do so if it is a
standard computer, or something resulting from the upgrade is causing
this problem. You may need to go through the restore procedure that
results in a completely clean copy of Windows 10 being on your
computer. Others can discuss how to do it, but it can be done using
your current installation of Windows 10. Whether that is the first
thing to try, those with more technical information can discuss.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@gmail.com> wrote:
I received the computer some 2 years ago for christmas. I installed jaws as
window eyes was purchased by jaws.

the computer first had windows 7 or 8 on it, not sure which one. Microsoft
was offering the free upgrade to windows 10 due to them announcing that
windows xp would no longer be supported.

My wife's cousin, wwho is a jack of all trades (including fixing his own
computer when his wife and children install programs that cause issues on
his system) upgraded the computer foor me to windows 10.

The computer is extremely slow, if I select to open notepad, the CPU starts
working overtime, the internal fan is audible, and the system slows to a
crawl.

The computer has 8 gigs of ram on board from the factory, and due to the
fact that I am moving from windows xp and window eyes to windows 10 and
jaws, I am dealing with a double learning curve. I assumed that the jaws
and windows 10 just did this (slow systems down so much that I can go to
the bathroom or make myself a pot of coffee while I wait for a program to
open.

Not to mention that when trying to load a webpage on firefox, I can
literally be waiting for 5 minutes before the page actually loads.

The computer came direct from a warehouse my wife's company has for "gift
point" purchases and had not been tampered with or what not since they
recieved it from HP.

Shrug.

I know I just need to purchase tutorials for windows 10 and jaws and just
suck it up, but the money is not there and has not been due to we being one
of the lower 20% in the income pbracket here in the USA.

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question


I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events. Did you just get
this computer? If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin? At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@gmail.com> wrote:
> the computer is over 2 years old.
>
> Keith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene
> To: main@techtalk.groups.io
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question
>
>
> But if this is a new machine, why bother? Will installing a clean
> version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy? If a new
> machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
> repair or correct the problem. You wouldn't do so with products in
> general. Why not just return it for something else? Manufactured
> computers shouldn't have any such problems. The description, taking
> five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
> bahavior.
>
> Gene
>
> On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:
> > Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem. If it did, the
> >> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
> >
> > To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either. Go ahead
and
> remove
> > it.
> > There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that
you
> don't
> > really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and
photo
> > packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install
of
> w10
> > from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean.
That's
> what
> > I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: HP preinstalled software question

Keith S
 


I received the computer some 2 years ago for christmas.  I installed jaws as window eyes was purchased by jaws.
 
the computer  first had windows 7 or 8 on it, not sure which one.  Microsoft was offering the free upgrade to windows 10 due to them announcing that windows xp would no longer be supported.
 
My wife's cousin, wwho is a jack of all trades (including fixing his own computer when his wife and children install programs that cause issues on his system) upgraded the computer foor me to windows 10.
 
The computer is extremely slow, if I  select to open notepad, the CPU starts working overtime, the internal fan is audible, and the system slows to a crawl.
 
The computer has 8 gigs of ram on board from the factory, and due to the fact that I am moving from windows  xp and window eyes to windows 10 and jaws, I am dealing with a double learning curve.   I assumed that the jaws and windows  10 just did this (slow systems down so much that I can go to the bathroom or make myself a pot of coffee while I wait for a program to open.
 
Not to mention that when trying  to load a webpage on firefox, I can literally be waiting for 5 minutes before the page actually loads.
 
The computer came direct  from a warehouse my wife's company has for "gift point" purchases and had not been tampered with or what not since they recieved it from HP.
 
Shrug.
 
I know I just need to purchase tutorials for windows 10 and jaws and just suck it up, but the money is not there and has not been due to we being one of the lower 20% in the income pbracket here in the USA.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events.  Did you just get
this computer?  If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin?  At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@...> wrote:
> the computer is over 2 years old.
>
> Keith
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gene
>   To: main@techtalk.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question
>
>
>   But if this is a new machine, why bother?  Will installing a clean
>   version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy?  If a new
>   machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
>   repair or correct the problem.  You wouldn't do so with products in
>   general.  Why not just return it for something else?  Manufactured
>   computers shouldn't have any such problems.  The description, taking
>   five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
>   bahavior.
>
>   Gene
>
>   On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@...> wrote:
>   > Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>   >> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem.  If it did, the
>   >> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
>   >
>   > To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either.  Go ahead and
> remove
>   > it.
>   > There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that you
> don't
>   > really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and photo
>   > packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install of
> w10
>   > from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean. That's
> what
>   > I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: HP preinstalled software question

Gene
 

I'm not at all clear about the sequence of events. Did you just get
this computer? If not, have you had it since it was new and did these
problems just begin? At this point, no one can address the question
of what might be causing these problems properly because we know
nothing about if you had the machine and it worked properly and these
problems just started or the previous history of the machine, such as
if you got it refurbished or from an owner.

Gene

On 3/29/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@gmail.com> wrote:
the computer is over 2 years old.

Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question


But if this is a new machine, why bother? Will installing a clean
version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy? If a new
machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
repair or correct the problem. You wouldn't do so with products in
general. Why not just return it for something else? Manufactured
computers shouldn't have any such problems. The description, taking
five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
bahavior.

Gene

On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:
> Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem. If it did, the
>> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
>
> To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either. Go ahead and
remove
> it.
> There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that you
don't
> really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and photo
> packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install of
w10
> from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean. That's
what
> I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
>
>
>
>






Re: HP preinstalled software question

Keith S
 


the computer is over 2 years old.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] HP preinstalled software question

But if this is a new machine, why bother?  Will installing a clean
version of Windows void the warranty and the return policy?  If a new
machine has something obviously wrong with it, I wouldn't try to
repair or correct the problem.  You wouldn't do so with products in
general.  Why not just return it for something else?  Manufactured
computers shouldn't have any such problems.  The description, taking
five minutes to load a web page is completely outside of any expected
bahavior.

Gene

On 3/28/20, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@...> wrote:
> Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> Preinstalled software wouldn't cause this problem.  If it did, the
>> company would be bankrupt unless it did something about it.
>
> To add to this, it certainly isn't helping you, either.  Go ahead and remove
> it.
> There are all kinds of packages preinstalled on these things that you don't
> really need, like McAfee and background maintenance services, and photo
> packages. If at all possible I suggest doing a fresh, clean install of w10
> from a Microsoft provided iso. Wipe everything and start clean. That's what
> I did with my new Dell a couple of weeks ago.
>
>
>
>



Re: deleting old installs of windows question

Gene
 

You keep saying there is a connection between backing up the old files
and remnants in the operating system. There isn't. The backup of
Windows 7, presumably, occurs first, before any changes are made. I
say presumably because it can't be otherwise and make any logical
sense. The previous version of Windows is backed up as it is, not
after changes have been made to the system. Any remnants that may
remain remain as a part of the upgrade itself which logically, doesn't
have any connection to whether anything is backed up.

Backing something up doesn't mean removing anything during the backup.
it means making another copy of something. Again, as the term backup
means, there is no connection between the backup and the upgrade.
they are completely separate operations.

Gene

On 3/28/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
You said,> but what I think happens is that the old version of Windows
is backed up by copies being made of the files. Then the originals
are used or discarded in the upgrade.
Therefore there should not be remnants.
you said,. You
don't lose programs in an upgrade
You can loose programs during an upgrade from Win 7 to win 10.If there are
programs that are installed on the win 7 that are not compatible with win
10, the upgrade does sometimes will delete them and sometimes the upgrade
will warn you or ask you to delete them before proceeding with the upgrade

____________
When upgrading your Windows 7/8.1 to Windows 10, the previous Windows
operating system files are stored to a folder which is called Windows.old.
The folder can be used to roll back Windows 10 to Windows 7 or Windows 8.1
if there is an error after the upgrade. If it goes well, after installing
Windows 10, you also can use this folder to go back to the old system during

the first 30 days. If you continue to use the Windows 10, this folder will
be removed automatically 30 days later.

If you are satisfied with Windows 10 and want to remove Windows 7 after
installing Windows 10, then you can do as the following ways show:

Way 1: In this case, you can choose to delete the Windows.old folder
directly to remove Windows 7. Open the system partition in Windows Explorer

and find the folder to delete.




Way 2: Use Disk Cleanup to uninstall Windows 7 by deleting previous Windows

installation. Do as the following says:

Step 1: Type disk cleanup in the search box of Windows 10 and launch it.

Step 2: When the application is launched, it goes to the drive by default in

which your Windows installation is located. Click OK to scan the drive.




Step 3: In the popup window, click Clean up system files to continue.




Step 4: You need to wait for a while during the process of Windows scanning

files. Then please scroll down the list and check Previous Windows
installation(s) and click OK to delete the files.




When the steps are finished, you can successfully delete Windows 7.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] deleting old installs of windows question


The backup process isn't related to whether any remnants exist. I
would expect that although the old version of Windows is backed up,
that there are files used by Windows that are left or that copies of
are placed in the backup file and the originals left in place. You
don't lose programs in an upgrade and some of those programs may need
files such as dll files that the installation placed on the machine
and possibly in the Windows folder, I don't know. But someone with
sufficient technical knowledge will, I hope discuss this. Certainly,
as another example, the Windows 7 registry would have to be somehow
incorporated in Windows 10 because the programs that were installed
while Windows 7 was being used, would almost all have placed entries
in the registry that are necessary for the programs to run.

In short, while the old Windows is backed up, it isn't the case that
those old files are just removed by backing them up. If they were,
you wouldn't have an upgrade. You would have a completely clean
Windows 10 installation and you would have to reinstall all programs.

Someone with more technical knowledge can say if this statement is
correct, but what I think happens is that the old version of Windows
is backed up by copies being made of the files. Then the originals
are used or discarded in the upgrade.

Gene

On 3/28/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
With a proper windows 10 upgrade from windows, there should not be
remnants

left. Windows put all the old Windows 7 files in the windows old file.
If
there are programs on Windows that will not run under windows 10,
windows
10 upgrade will delete them or ask you to remove them before upgrading.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] deleting old installs of windows question


That's different from what is being discussed. That is for reverting
to the version of Windows you had. This is a question about remnants
of the other version of Windows being left on the machine as an
unwanted part of the new Windows version.

Gene

On 3/28/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
When you upgrade Windows 10, files from the previous version is stored

in

a

file called Windows old, in case you wish to go back to previous
version

and

after a period of time those files are deleted by Windows.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] deleting old installs of windows question


My view is that if the upgrade is working well, don't worry about it.
If you are having problems, I doubt this kind of tinkering will help
and I doubt it can be reasonably done. How would you know what to
look for among all the possible remnants, if any?
Others may know something I don't, but it seems to me that if you are
satisfied, leave things alone. if not, you may have to have a clean
Windows 10. But you don't have to uninstall the upgrade and then
reinstall Windows. Others will, I hope, comment on this, but I
believe there is a reset option in Windows 10 that willl give you a
completely clean Windows 10 just by running the option.

Gene
On 3/28/20, Keith S <ks.steinbach03@gmail.com> wrote:
My computer originally came with windows 7 or 8, not sure which one.
I
took
the option to upgrade ton windows 10 and a friend did it for me.

I heard that an update of windows from an earlier version can still
have
traces of the old OS installed on it (broken files, files that
direct
to
functions that are no longer there)

If this is true, where or how do I uninstall or remove these
remnents?

Also, I saw on this list taht when you update jaws, the previous
version

is
still kept installed, incase you need to go back and use an older
version

if
the newer version of jaws is well, glitchy.

How would I go about removing the older versions?


Thanks

Keith















Re: talking radio?

Fanus
 

Hello Billy
I am not sure where I got the .mp3 file but if you email me off list at buys.fanus@gmail.com I can attach it for you. I am sure David would not mind.
Regards
Fanus

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 5:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] talking radio?

hi Fanus, thanks for the info, but do you happen to have a link for the
review?.

On 28/03/2020 08:09, Fanus wrote:
Sorry, it is Sangean PR-D17. I got it from Amazon. It is quite expensive but there ws a special when I bought mine. David Woodbridge from Vision Australia did a very good review.
Regards
Fanus


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] talking radio?

hi guys, Looking for a talking radio from Amazon if possible.





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