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Re: Google Voice not ringing when receiving an incoming call

Vicky Vaughan
 

How did you ever get your Google phone to ring?  I have never been able to receive a call on either Google or Alexa.  I have been able to only make calls, but not receive on them.

 

Is there anything in either of their apps that could be set to make this possible?

 

Any help would be very gratefully received!

 

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Google Voice not ringing when receiving an incoming call

 

The answer to your question is, "Yes," as far as experiencing this problem.  Recently Google Voice seems to be "not ringing" more frequently than it does ring.  I've had similar problems in the past with Hangouts, too.  I have never found anything the end user can do to fix this, and believe me, I've tried.

At least under Windows 10 I am getting a pop-out notification (once known as a toast) when an incoming call is arriving and can know I need to answer that way.

This morning, Google Voice is actually ringing on my computer but not on my smartphone.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna




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Re: question for a friend

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Madison,

           There's 

FreeLists / Programming Blind

There are some other out there, too, and a number of those are specific to the programming language being used.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


messenger

Kerryn Gunness
 

hi all
can NVDA work with messenger.com website?
if so let me no
thanks


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

Exactly. It is perfectly reasonable for someone who knows nothing of what an add-on does to ask what it does or why it is useful. It is customary for someone who recommends an add-on to give some sort of brief explanation. And suppose others use Thunderbird but don't know about the add-on. You aren't just writing to one person. You are writing to whomever is following a thread and many people may not want to download a tutorial just to get an answer to a simple question.

Keeping the list a friendly environment where people are encouraged to ask questions is important on a list like this. Just saying, the add-on allows first letter navigation in the folders list, which can't be done otherwise, is all that needed to be said. I really don't think it is an imposition to give a short statement like that.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Brian,

I didn’t ask you for your sarcasm! I asked you a simple question yesterday, and you gave no answer. I think you are missing the whole point, you said in your email, I will want to install the add-ons, and I asked you why. Now, you could have just told me why I would want to do that, or you could have at least just said the answer is in your tutorial, and I would need to download it if I wanted my question answered. I had no way of knowing that. Now, if you want to call that spoon feeding me, so be it. my intent was not to upset you, or not to insult you, so I’m sorry if you feel that way. I’m just replying to this to let you know what I was asking, and why I didn’t know the answer was in your tutorial.

Once again, I never installed any add-ons to any of my programs, I never use Thunderbird before. I will not explain myself any more is to why I asked a simple question. So many people are afraid to ask a question, for fear of something like this. Some people ask a question, and they feel like they just got a slap in the face.





Janet



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Janet wrote:

Now, had Brian, told me some of this yesterday before I downloaded your tutorial, I might have had a better understanding.

-
Janet, it is not my obligation to spoon feed you, or anyone else. What I said was stated, and clearly, in the reference material I offered. I don't intend to keep typing information I have already offered because you, or anyone else, doesn't bother to read what's been offered. I don't offer this sort of stuff because it's irrelevant to the situation or questions asked.

As to working with Thunderbird Add-Ons, I give step-by-step instructions in the tutorial for downloading and installing this specific add-on.

I really don't know what more I can do, and I'm not going to answer a single additional question that I know I have already addressed in material offered that you clearly have not bothered to read, yet demand the same answers it gives!

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Gene,
Ok, got it. This is a handy feature to know.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Notepad generally won't read word processor documents properly unless they
are text files created in the word processor. Wordpad or something like
JARTE with the compatibility pack should be used in a case like this. I'm
not saying other word processors shouldn't be used. I'm naming those I know
will work as desired. If this particular document reads properly in
Notepad, that's fine but that isn't what should be used for docx documents.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Brian,

Thank you, but I already downloaded your tutorial, and opened it like Gene
said which is much easier, through Notepad. Well Brian, you can believe it
or not, but I never got any MS Word document saying in protected mode, until
I got yours. I’ve been using MS Word as well as Outlook for at least 36
years now. I’ve never liked it, and I’m never going to. LOL! I have no
problems opening an attachment either, or at least not yet! I guess we can
call this a mystery! Smile!

Having said all that, as I am reading your tutorial, I can understand it
just fine, but I can’t find where to install the add ons, and I am following
your easy instructions though.





Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Janet,

I am more than willing to assist with the protected mode issue, if
necessary. I cannot believe that you have never opened something you've
downloaded, or detached from an e-mail message, that has not behaved
similarly, as this behavior is years-old.

There should be a button that allows you to, at the very least, read a
MS-Word document if you find yourself in such a situation, but it has been
so long since I've gotten that warning I cannot remember what the button
says. I routinely turn off protected mode for all office documents.

What follows is a very recent post on this issue, from the JAWS for Windows
Group, by Bill White that may help you get around this issue:

MS Word actually has a number of features to protect you from various
threats that are spread via Word files. One of these features (opens in a
new tab)

in the read-only mode so it can’t affect your computer negatively.

This may be the reason why your documents always open in the read-only mode.
Turning this option off should fix the issue for you.

list of 2 items



1. Open MS Word on your computer.

2. Click on the Options option at the lower-left corner and it’ll open the
settings menu.

3. Click on the General tab in the left sidebar if you aren’t already there.
Then on the right-hand side menu, scroll down and find the option that says

Open e-mail attachments and other uneditable files in reading view.

4. Uncheck the box for the option and click on OK to save the changes.

5. The Word files you’ve received as email attachments should now open in
regular mode letting you edit them however you want.





Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going
to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Brian,

I didn’t ask you for your sarcasm!  I asked you a simple question yesterday, and you gave no answer.  I think you are missing the whole point, you said in your email, I will want to install the add-ons, and I asked you why.  Now, you could have just told me why I would want to do that, or you could have at least just said the answer is in your tutorial, and I would need to download it if I wanted my question answered.  I had no way of knowing that.   Now, if you want to call that spoon feeding me, so be it.  my intent was not to upset you, or not to insult you, so I’m sorry if you feel that way.  I’m just replying to this to let you know what I was asking, and why I didn’t know the answer was in your tutorial. 

Once again, I never installed any add-ons to any of my programs, I never use Thunderbird before.  I will not explain myself any more is to why I asked a simple question.  So many people are afraid to ask a question, for fear of something like this.  Some people ask a question, and they feel like they just got a slap in the face. 

 

 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Janet wrote:

Now, had Brian, told me some of this yesterday before I downloaded your tutorial, I might have had a better understanding.

-
Janet, it is not my obligation to spoon feed you, or anyone else.  What I said was stated, and clearly, in the reference material I offered.  I don't intend to keep typing information I have already offered because you, or anyone else, doesn't bother to read what's been offered.  I don't offer this sort of stuff because it's irrelevant to the situation or questions asked.

As to working with Thunderbird Add-Ons, I give step-by-step instructions in the tutorial for downloading and installing this specific add-on.

I really don't know what more I can do, and I'm not going to answer a single additional question that I know I have already addressed in material offered that you clearly have not bothered to read, yet demand the same answers it gives!
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


question for a friend

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
Does anyone know of any email lists for blind programmers? A friend is asking.
Thanks Madison


Re: To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Gene
 

I wanted to be sure so it would be clear for you and for others following the thread.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Gene,
I'm glad you asked just for my personal future references. It opened in Wordpad , and not Notepad.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Wordpad or notepad?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for
Downloaded Documents

Hi Gene,
Wow, I can't believe I didn't even think of this! Opening the MS doc in
Notepad, worked like a charm!
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for
Downloaded Documents

While I have no objection to turning off protected mode, the easiest thing
to do is to open the document in Wordpad, which has no protected mode and
which will read docx documents in versions from Windows 7 on. I don't iknow
about Vista, but that is pretty much not a concern.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded
Documents



Note: This is separate from the read-only mode that often rears its ugly
head if Protected Mode is turned off. It depends on the version of Office.

To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

This applies in Word, Excel, Access, etc. You have to do this in each
program where you want the nag off.

1. <!--[endif]-->File Tab, Options Item

2. <!--[endif]-->In Options Dialog, Trust Center Pane

3. <!--[endif]-->Once Trust Center Pane is up, activate Trust Center
Settings button (or Hit ALT+T)

4. <!--[endif]-->In Trust Center Settings, Protected View Pane

5. <!--[endif]-->In Protected View Pane, under the Protected View
Group, uncheck whichever of the protected views you’d prefer not to deal
with. Leave the Data Execution Prevention Group untouched (and this feature
is enabled by default).

Note well: If you disable Protected View then be very, very certain that
you trust the source of the file you intend to open, whether it was sent as
an e-mail attachment or downloaded. Ideally, it should be virus scanned, at
a minimum, before you consider opening it. On many computers your antivirus
software or security suite automatically scans anything you download and if
you’re sure your setup does this you are reasonably safe in opening files
acquired from sources you trust.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going
to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Janet
 

Gene,
I'm glad you asked just for my personal future references. It opened in Wordpad , and not Notepad.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Wordpad or notepad?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for
Downloaded Documents

Hi Gene,
Wow, I can't believe I didn't even think of this! Opening the MS doc in
Notepad, worked like a charm!
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for
Downloaded Documents

While I have no objection to turning off protected mode, the easiest thing
to do is to open the document in Wordpad, which has no protected mode and
which will read docx documents in versions from Windows 7 on. I don't iknow
about Vista, but that is pretty much not a concern.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded
Documents



Note: This is separate from the read-only mode that often rears its ugly
head if Protected Mode is turned off. It depends on the version of Office.

To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

This applies in Word, Excel, Access, etc. You have to do this in each
program where you want the nag off.

1. <!--[endif]-->File Tab, Options Item

2. <!--[endif]-->In Options Dialog, Trust Center Pane

3. <!--[endif]-->Once Trust Center Pane is up, activate Trust Center
Settings button (or Hit ALT+T)

4. <!--[endif]-->In Trust Center Settings, Protected View Pane

5. <!--[endif]-->In Protected View Pane, under the Protected View
Group, uncheck whichever of the protected views you’d prefer not to deal
with. Leave the Data Execution Prevention Group untouched (and this feature
is enabled by default).

Note well: If you disable Protected View then be very, very certain that
you trust the source of the file you intend to open, whether it was sent as
an e-mail attachment or downloaded. Ideally, it should be virus scanned, at
a minimum, before you consider opening it. On many computers your antivirus
software or security suite automatically scans anything you download and if
you’re sure your setup does this you are reasonably safe in opening files
acquired from sources you trust.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going
to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Gene
 

Wordpad or notepad?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Hi Gene,
Wow, I can't believe I didn't even think of this! Opening the MS doc in Notepad, worked like a charm!
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

While I have no objection to turning off protected mode, the easiest thing
to do is to open the document in Wordpad, which has no protected mode and
which will read docx documents in versions from Windows 7 on. I don't iknow
about Vista, but that is pretty much not a concern.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded
Documents



Note: This is separate from the read-only mode that often rears its ugly
head if Protected Mode is turned off. It depends on the version of Office.

To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

This applies in Word, Excel, Access, etc. You have to do this in each
program where you want the nag off.

1. <!--[endif]-->File Tab, Options Item

2. <!--[endif]-->In Options Dialog, Trust Center Pane

3. <!--[endif]-->Once Trust Center Pane is up, activate Trust Center
Settings button (or Hit ALT+T)

4. <!--[endif]-->In Trust Center Settings, Protected View Pane

5. <!--[endif]-->In Protected View Pane, under the Protected View
Group, uncheck whichever of the protected views you’d prefer not to deal
with. Leave the Data Execution Prevention Group untouched (and this feature
is enabled by default).

Note well: If you disable Protected View then be very, very certain that
you trust the source of the file you intend to open, whether it was sent as
an e-mail attachment or downloaded. Ideally, it should be virus scanned, at
a minimum, before you consider opening it. On many computers your antivirus
software or security suite automatically scans anything you download and if
you’re sure your setup does this you are reasonably safe in opening files
acquired from sources you trust.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going
to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Gene,

This is great to know, as I don’t know anything about Thunderbird, but I’m trying to learn.  Thank you for this, as I will keep this.  These are things I need to know, if I’m going to be working with Thunderbird, hopefully soon! 

  

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

I'm not sure what accounts for what you were describing earlier, but if I didn't tell you this before, it may save you problems. 

 

When you open something like options in Thunderbird, after you work in it, close it with control f4.  Alt f4 closes the program but if you haven't closed options first, when you reopen the program, you will be in options again.  Closing options and returning to the main window will avoid you being somewhere else when the program opens again.

 

Gene

On 11/17/2020 4:39 PM, Janet wrote:

 

Brian, you said I would want to install the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension/add-on. 
I asked you why, in other words, why would I want to install that, but yes, you gave no explanation is to why would I want to do that.  I am just replying to this for clarification purposes.  .   .

I have never used Thunderbird, and I have never had to install any add-ons for any program before.  So, I wanted to know.  I’m a firm believer in there is no stupid question, so if I don’t know something, I’m sorry if that bothers you, but I will continue to ask questions until I learn what I want to learn! 

Thank you for letting me know about what I call a toggle feature, meaning pressing f6, It remembers where you last were when you closed it, and that's where it opens, as I didn’t know that either.   

 

Janet
  

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 09:06 PM, Janet wrote:

You gave no explanation.   

-
Uh, yes I did in the tutorial.

This is aimed at you, and in general, when people offer reference material, it's expected that it will be read before follow-up questions are asked.  I don't write those tutorials for my benefit.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Janet wrote:
Now, had Brian, told me some of this yesterday before I downloaded your tutorial, I might have had a better understanding.
-
Janet, it is not my obligation to spoon feed you, or anyone else.  What I said was stated, and clearly, in the reference material I offered.  I don't intend to keep typing information I have already offered because you, or anyone else, doesn't bother to read what's been offered.  I don't offer this sort of stuff because it's irrelevant to the situation or questions asked.

As to working with Thunderbird Add-Ons, I give step-by-step instructions in the tutorial for downloading and installing this specific add-on.

I really don't know what more I can do, and I'm not going to answer a single additional question that I know I have already addressed in material offered that you clearly have not bothered to read, yet demand the same answers it gives!
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

Janet
 

Hi Gene,
Wow, I can't believe I didn't even think of this! Opening the MS doc in Notepad, worked like a charm!
Thank you Thank you!

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

While I have no objection to turning off protected mode, the easiest thing
to do is to open the document in Wordpad, which has no protected mode and
which will read docx documents in versions from Windows 7 on. I don't iknow
about Vista, but that is pretty much not a concern.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded
Documents



Note: This is separate from the read-only mode that often rears its ugly
head if Protected Mode is turned off. It depends on the version of Office.

To turn off Protected Mode in MS-Office for Downloaded Documents

This applies in Word, Excel, Access, etc. You have to do this in each
program where you want the nag off.

1. <!--[endif]-->File Tab, Options Item

2. <!--[endif]-->In Options Dialog, Trust Center Pane

3. <!--[endif]-->Once Trust Center Pane is up, activate Trust Center
Settings button (or Hit ALT+T)

4. <!--[endif]-->In Trust Center Settings, Protected View Pane

5. <!--[endif]-->In Protected View Pane, under the Protected View
Group, uncheck whichever of the protected views you’d prefer not to deal
with. Leave the Data Execution Prevention Group untouched (and this feature
is enabled by default).

Note well: If you disable Protected View then be very, very certain that
you trust the source of the file you intend to open, whether it was sent as
an e-mail attachment or downloaded. Ideally, it should be virus scanned, at
a minimum, before you consider opening it. On many computers your antivirus
software or security suite automatically scans anything you download and if
you’re sure your setup does this you are reasonably safe in opening files
acquired from sources you trust.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going
to be disappointed.

~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Brian,

I don’t know of any screen readers who don’t use first letter navigation either.

So now, you tell me this, but, I didn’t read this in your tutorial until I just downloaded it an hour ago.  Now, had Brian, told me some of this yesterday before I downloaded your tutorial, I might have had a better understanding.  Without the add-on, you cannot first letter navigate in your folder tree, ok this is finally good to know!  This makes sense!  I now know why I want to download the add-ons, as I asked you yesterday!  Now, if I can get to where I need to add the extensions in Thunderbird, that would be nice!  I might get to work with Thunderbird, and I would be one happy camper!  Lol!  Smile!  Thank you for the information. 

Janet


         

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

Janet,

          I know of almost no screen reader users who are not accustomed to using first letter navigation in the folder tree in an e-mail client, and virtually all e-mail clients support this natively, but not Thunderbird.  Without the add-on, you cannot first letter navigate in your folder tree.

          The tutorial states, in its intro covering this add-on:  This allows you to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

Notepad generally won't read word processor documents properly unless they are text files created in the word processor. Wordpad or something like JARTE with the compatibility pack should be used in a case like this. I'm not saying other word processors shouldn't be used. I'm naming those I know will work as desired. If this particular document reads properly in Notepad, that's fine but that isn't what should be used for docx documents.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Brian,

Thank you, but I already downloaded your tutorial, and opened it like Gene said which is much easier, through Notepad. Well Brian, you can believe it or not, but I never got any MS Word document saying in protected mode, until I got yours. I’ve been using MS Word as well as Outlook for at least 36 years now. I’ve never liked it, and I’m never going to. LOL! I have no problems opening an attachment either, or at least not yet! I guess we can call this a mystery! Smile!

Having said all that, as I am reading your tutorial, I can understand it just fine, but I can’t find where to install the add ons, and I am following your easy instructions though.





Janet

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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.



Janet,

I am more than willing to assist with the protected mode issue, if necessary. I cannot believe that you have never opened something you've downloaded, or detached from an e-mail message, that has not behaved similarly, as this behavior is years-old.

There should be a button that allows you to, at the very least, read a MS-Word document if you find yourself in such a situation, but it has been so long since I've gotten that warning I cannot remember what the button says. I routinely turn off protected mode for all office documents.

What follows is a very recent post on this issue, from the JAWS for Windows Group, by Bill White that may help you get around this issue:

MS Word actually has a number of features to protect you from various threats that are spread via Word files. One of these features (opens in a new tab)

in the read-only mode so it can’t affect your computer negatively.

This may be the reason why your documents always open in the read-only mode. Turning this option off should fix the issue for you.

list of 2 items



1. Open MS Word on your computer.

2. Click on the Options option at the lower-left corner and it’ll open the settings menu.

3. Click on the General tab in the left sidebar if you aren’t already there. Then on the right-hand side menu, scroll down and find the option that says

Open e-mail attachments and other uneditable files in reading view.

4. Uncheck the box for the option and click on OK to save the changes.

5. The Word files you’ve received as email attachments should now open in regular mode letting you edit them however you want.





Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



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Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

Brian,

Thank you, but I already downloaded your tutorial, and opened it like Gene said which is much easier, through Notepad.   Well Brian, you can believe it or not, but I never got any MS Word document saying in protected mode, until I got yours.  I’ve been using MS Word as well as Outlook for at least 36 years now.  I’ve never liked it, and I’m never going to.  LOL!  I have no problems opening an attachment either, or at least not yet!  I guess we can call this a mystery!  Smile!   

Having said all that, as I am reading your tutorial, I can understand it just fine, but I can’t find where to install the add ons, and I am following your easy instructions though.  

 

 

Janet

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

Janet,

I am more than willing to assist with the protected mode issue, if necessary.  I cannot believe that you have never opened something you've downloaded, or detached from an e-mail message, that has not behaved similarly, as this behavior is years-old.

There should be a button that allows you to, at the very least, read a MS-Word document if you find yourself in such a situation, but it has been so long since I've gotten that warning I cannot remember what the button says.  I routinely turn off protected mode for all office documents.

What follows is a very recent post on this issue, from the JAWS for Windows Group, by Bill White that may help you get around this issue:

MS Word actually has a number of features to protect you from various threats that are spread via Word files. One of these features (opens in a new tab)

in the read-only mode so it can’t affect your computer negatively.

This may be the reason why your documents always open in the read-only mode. Turning this option off should fix the issue for you.

list of 2 items

 

1. Open MS Word on your computer.

2. Click on the Options option at the lower-left corner and it’ll open the settings menu.

3. Click on the General tab in the left sidebar if you aren’t already there. Then on the right-hand side menu, scroll down and find the option that says

Open e-mail attachments and other uneditable files in reading view.

4. Uncheck the box for the option and click on OK to save the changes.

5. The Word files you’ve received as email attachments should now open in regular mode letting you edit them however you want.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Gene
 

I'm not sure what accounts for what you were describing earlier, but if I didn't tell you this before, it may save you problems. 


When you open something like options in Thunderbird, after you work in it, close it with control f4.  Alt f4 closes the program but if you haven't closed options first, when you reopen the program, you will be in options again.  Closing options and returning to the main window will avoid you being somewhere else when the program opens again.


Gene

On 11/17/2020 4:39 PM, Janet wrote:

 

Brian, you said I would want to install the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension/add-on. 
I asked you why, in other words, why would I want to install that, but yes, you gave no explanation is to why would I want to do that.  I am just replying to this for clarification purposes.  .   .

I have never used Thunderbird, and I have never had to install any add-ons for any program before.  So, I wanted to know.  I’m a firm believer in there is no stupid question, so if I don’t know something, I’m sorry if that bothers you, but I will continue to ask questions until I learn what I want to learn! 

Thank you for letting me know about what I call a toggle feature, meaning pressing f6, It remembers where you last were when you closed it, and that's where it opens, as I didn’t know that either.   

 

Janet
  

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 09:06 PM, Janet wrote:

You gave no explanation.   

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Uh, yes I did in the tutorial.

This is aimed at you, and in general, when people offer reference material, it's expected that it will be read before follow-up questions are asked.  I don't write those tutorials for my benefit.
 
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If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

          I know of almost no screen reader users who are not accustomed to using first letter navigation in the folder tree in an e-mail client, and virtually all e-mail clients support this natively, but not Thunderbird.  Without the add-on, you cannot first letter navigate in your folder tree.

          The tutorial states, in its intro covering this add-on:  This allows you to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Outlook 2010 Help Please.

Janet
 

 

Brian, you said I would want to install the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension/add-on. 
I asked you why, in other words, why would I want to install that, but yes, you gave no explanation is to why would I want to do that.  I am just replying to this for clarification purposes.  .   .

I have never used Thunderbird, and I have never had to install any add-ons for any program before.  So, I wanted to know.  I’m a firm believer in there is no stupid question, so if I don’t know something, I’m sorry if that bothers you, but I will continue to ask questions until I learn what I want to learn! 

Thank you for letting me know about what I call a toggle feature, meaning pressing f6, It remembers where you last were when you closed it, and that's where it opens, as I didn’t know that either.   

 

Janet
  

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outlook 2010 Help Please.

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 09:06 PM, Janet wrote:

You gave no explanation.   

-
Uh, yes I did in the tutorial.

This is aimed at you, and in general, when people offer reference material, it's expected that it will be read before follow-up questions are asked.  I don't write those tutorials for my benefit.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

        ~ Madonna


Re: Microsoft Edge question

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:00 AM, Gene wrote:
I suspect that in general, browsers that allow you to make short cuts make them to open in the browser.
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Actually, most don't.

In browser "add shortcuts to desktop" functions generally add webpage shortcuts, without any direct specification of the browser to be used to open same.  There are exceptions, as you've noted, but they are exceptions.  Most of the time whatever is set as the default web browser is what will open any one of them.

While you can force opening in a specific web browser simply by specifying the browser program to be used as part of the shortcut, very few people ever do.  You can see how that's done for a shortcut created by a Browser that uses that technique, e.g., Brave.

The few desktop shortcuts I do have for web pages are now all defaulting to Brave because it is my default browser.  They were created long ago when Brave was not my default browser.
 
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If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always going to be disappointed.

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