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Nancy Hill
 

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.  I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Smiling?
 

I listen to them from time to time and I would just guess that it's probably no more for whatever unfortunate reasons.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nancy Hill
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:06 PM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV? It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Evan Reese
 

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV? It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Gene
 

So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Victor
 

Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.

Victor


On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Lynn White
 

Amazon Prime Video is quite accessible through iOS.  The few times I watch TV, Prime works great.


On 7/23/2018 2:05 PM, Victor wrote:
Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.

Victor


On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Gene
 

And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line.  In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any network that doesn't make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB which fought for years for broadcast description. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Victor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.

Victor


On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Gerald Levy
 

 
If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they take action. 
 
Gerald
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
 
And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line.  In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any network that doesn't make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB which fought for years for broadcast description. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
 
Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.

Victor


On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
 
Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
Gene
 

I have written about this to, I believe it was ACB. 
 
I said I have seen nothing.  That leaves the possibility opened that something is being attempted but I have seen nothing. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 
If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they take action. 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
 
And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line.  In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any network that doesn't make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB which fought for years for broadcast description. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
 
Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.

Victor


On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
 
Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy
-
 

That is the source of the problem.

The nfb fought against described tv, largely I think because the acb was fighting to have it.

The nfb went to congress and said blind folk didn't need it in effect.

The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the nfb.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they take action.

Gerald



From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line. In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television. Now, any network that doesn't make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line. Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something. Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB which fought for years for broadcast description.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Victor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.

Victor



On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV? It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy












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Gene
 

More NFB bashing.  I've written about this before.  
 
I've never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness organization. 
 
Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television?  I think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.  But the NFB doesn't behave like a five-year-old and oppose something just because the ACB is in favor of it.  Are you aware that, many years ago, the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree on?  I don't follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember when this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of cooperation in the past.  And as I recall, this movement occurred at about the same time as the description on television contraversy. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: -
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV


That is the source of the problem.

The nfb fought against described tv, largely I think because the acb was fighting to have it.

The nfb went to congress and said blind folk didn't need it in effect.

The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the nfb.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:

>
> If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they take action.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line.  In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any network that doesn't make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB which fought for years for broadcast description.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Victor
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> Hi Jean:
>
> Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.
>
> Victor
>
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
>
>   So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.
>
>   Gene
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: Evan Reese
>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
>   To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>   Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
>   worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
>   were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
>   gone.
>   Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
>   to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
>   Evan
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Nancy Hill
>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
>   To: TechTalk
>   Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>   Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
>   like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
>   I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.
>
>
>   Does anyone have any info on what is going on?
>
>
>   Thanks Muchly,
>
>   Nancy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Evan Reese
 

Speaking of the NFB's stance on described video, one of the parody commercials blindy.tv has played, (although I haven't heard it in quite a while), is called NFB TV, in which various things were on the screen and the announcer told people repeatedly to look at their screen for more information. For example, an emergency weather alert, where the affected areas were listed on the screen, but not given verbally.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: -
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:24 AM
To: Gerald Levy
Cc: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV


That is the source of the problem.

The nfb fought against described tv, largely I think because the acb was fighting to have it.

The nfb went to congress and said blind folk didn't need it in effect.

The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the nfb.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they take action.

Gerald



From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line. In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television. Now, any network that doesn't make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line. Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something. Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB which fought for years for broadcast description.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Victor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well-intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.

Victor



On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Scifi channel hasn't
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they're just letting it run itself and they're not going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV? It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy












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Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

If I want described TV, I like thelistenfactor.com

Ann P.

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Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Gene & List:

 

Have been told by at least one Federation State President, that while ACB and NFB National get alone like TNT and a lit match, in some states, Florida for one, ACB and NFB agree on many issues and work together to resolve them.

 

You neglected to mention the antics of the G. O. P. House during the Obama administration, reflexively disliking anything the President proposed.

 

Certainly hope all the folks who can no longer afford adequate Health Insurance remember to register and present themselves at their Polling Place on Election Day in America 2018 and especially 2020.

 

If I could, would run some Public Service Announcements where a bunch of Average Americans, white, black, yellow and red all say they cannot bother to vote.

 

Then show who wins the election: A horned devil with a tail and a very unfriendly dog to ensure no one sneaks out the gate to his place of residence!

 

Of course the Satanist Party of America would say I am picking on their deity, proceed to the U. S. Courthouse to obtain an injunction to require me to stop my ad campaign.

Brian

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 

More NFB bashing.  I have written about this before.  

 

I have never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness organization. 

 

Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television?  I think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.  However, the NFB does not behave like a five-year-old and oppose something just because the ACB is in favor of it.  Are you aware that, many years ago, the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree on?  I do not follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember when this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of cooperation in the past.  In addition, as I recall, this movement occurred at about the same time as the description on television controversy. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Fr

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 


That is the source of the problem.

The NFB fought against described tv, largely I think because the ACB was fighting to have it.

The NFB went to congress and said blind folk did not need it in effect.

The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the NFB.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:

>
> If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they take action.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line.  In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any network that does not make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB, which fought for years for broadcast description.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Victor
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> Hi Jean:
>
> Sadly, I agree. This was well intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.
>
> Victor
>
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
>
>   So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.
>
>   Gene
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: Evan Reese
>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
>   To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>   Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Sci-Fi channel has not
>   worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
>   were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
>   gone.
>   Sounds like maybe they are just letting it run itself and they are not going
>   to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
>   Evan
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Nancy Hill
>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
>   To: TechTalk
>   Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>   Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
>   like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
>   I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.
>
>
>   Does anyone have any info on what is going on?
>
>
>   Thanks Muchly,
>
>   Nancy

 
Lynn White
 

Whatever and especially on a teck list and that's all I'll say about this post.


On 7/25/2018 4:32 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

Dear Gene & List:

 

Have been told by at least one Federation State President, that while ACB and NFB National get alone like TNT and a lit match, in some states, Florida for one, ACB and NFB agree on many issues and work together to resolve them.

 

You neglected to mention the antics of the G. O. P. House during the Obama administration, reflexively disliking anything the President proposed.

 

Certainly hope all the folks who can no longer afford adequate Health Insurance remember to register and present themselves at their Polling Place on Election Day in America 2018 and especially 2020.

 

If I could, would run some Public Service Announcements where a bunch of Average Americans, white, black, yellow and red all say they cannot bother to vote.

 

Then show who wins the election: A horned devil with a tail and a very unfriendly dog to ensure no one sneaks out the gate to his place of residence!

 

Of course the Satanist Party of America would say I am picking on their deity, proceed to the U. S. Courthouse to obtain an injunction to require me to stop my ad campaign.

Brian

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 

More NFB bashing.  I have written about this before.  

 

I have never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness organization. 

 

Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television?  I think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.  However, the NFB does not behave like a five-year-old and oppose something just because the ACB is in favor of it.  Are you aware that, many years ago, the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree on?  I do not follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember when this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of cooperation in the past.  In addition, as I recall, this movement occurred at about the same time as the description on television controversy. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Fr

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 


That is the source of the problem.

The NFB fought against described tv, largely I think because the ACB was fighting to have it.

The NFB went to congress and said blind folk did not need it in effect.

The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the NFB.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:

>
> If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they take action.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I understand ABC already does this, should have description available on line.  In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any network that does not make material they broadcast described on the network available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a word about this from organizations like ACB, which fought for years for broadcast description.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Victor
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> Hi Jean:
>
> Sadly, I agree. This was well intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible as well.
>
> Victor
>
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
>
>   So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.
>
>   Gene
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: Evan Reese
>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
>   To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>   Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Sci-Fi channel has not
>   worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if they
>   were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel is
>   gone.
>   Sounds like maybe they are just letting it run itself and they are not going
>   to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
>   Evan
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Nancy Hill
>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
>   To: TechTalk
>   Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>   Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
>   like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
>   I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.
>
>
>   Does anyone have any info on what is going on?
>
>
>   Thanks Muchly,
>
>   Nancy

 
Laz
 

brian, As you've posted earlier about list rules most common in
different lists you belong to then you must be aware that two subjects
which are not welcome on many lists are politics and religion. These
two subjects as well as being off topic for this list, can wreak havoc
on any lists due to the many varied and slanted viewpoints which are
strongly held by individuals. This list is very easy-going when it
comes to topics and one should police one's own messages so as to not
cause upset or discord amongst its membership. I am not going to
address the false statements about how Americans weren't able to get
health care until Obamacare came along which BTW has been penalizing
my wife about $800 per year since its inception because she can't
afford to pay for her own Obamacare plan. Even before Obamacare any
indigent could show up at a hospital and receive needed health care
and that was the reason given for why an aspirin cost $50 if you had
health insurance. But that false statement you made about Obamacare
was something you must have read somewhere and obviously since you
reside either in Canada or the UK don't have first-hand knowledge of.

Now if we could please get back to the purpose of this list...

laz List moderator

On 7/25/18, Brian K. Lingard <bkl@...> wrote:
Dear Gene & List:

Have been told by at least one Federation State President, that while ACB
and NFB National get alone like TNT and a lit match, in some states,
Florida
for one, ACB and NFB agree on many issues and work together to resolve
them.

You neglected to mention the antics of the G. O. P. House during the Obama
administration, reflexively disliking anything the President proposed.

Certainly hope all the folks who can no longer afford adequate Health
Insurance remember to register and present themselves at their Polling
Place
on Election Day in America 2018 and especially 2020.

If I could, would run some Public Service Announcements where a bunch of
Average Americans, white, black, yellow and red all say they cannot bother
to vote.

Then show who wins the election: A horned devil with a tail and a very
unfriendly dog to ensure no one sneaks out the gate to his place of
residence!

Of course the Satanist Party of America would say I am picking on their
deity, proceed to the U. S. Courthouse to obtain an injunction to require
me
to stop my ad campaign.
Brian


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

More NFB bashing. I have written about this before.

I have never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness
organization.

Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television? I
think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.
However, the NFB does not behave like a five-year-old and oppose something
just because the ACB is in favor of it. Are you aware that, many years
ago,
the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree
on?
I do not follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember
when
this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of
cooperation in the past. In addition, as I recall, this movement occurred
at about the same time as the description on television controversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Fr
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM
To: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
Cc: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV


That is the source of the problem.

The NFB fought against described tv, largely I think because the ACB was
fighting to have it.

The NFB went to congress and said blind folk did not need it in effect.

The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the NFB.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in
discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the
blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they
take
action.

Gerald



From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I
understand ABC already does this, should have description available on
line.
In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television
broadcasts because that was how most people got television. Now, any
network that does not make material they broadcast described on the network
available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since
increasingly, content is viewed on line. Not to mention that over air
broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical
difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the
described stream for this or that episode of something. Yet I never hear a
word about this from organizations like ACB, which fought for years for
broadcast description.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Victor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal
should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep
something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible
as well.

Victor



On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:


So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Sci-Fi channel
has not
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if
they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel
is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they are just letting it run itself and they are not
going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV? It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy



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Victor
 

Thank you for reminding all of us of the list rules. I have been on this list for a while and it’s true that we do not discuss politics or religion here. Sometimes we need to be reminded of that.

Please allow me to state one thing and I will then leave it alone. It is definitely true that there are a wide variety of slanted opinions and believes about all kinds of things on this list. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that all blind people are liberal and support progress of government policies. I for one am not, and I do not. I am a conservative, and there are other blind people like me out there who are also conservatives. There maybe other conservatives on this list. I don’t know. Frankly, that doesn’t matter. Again, I will just say this one with thing and leave it alone. Do not assume that just because one has a disability that he or she is liberal. Do not assume that just because one is blind or has another disability that he or she supports big government policies. I am sure that there are conservative Republicans in the ACP and the NF be. In fact, I know there are conservatives in these organizations. Just like there are conservative members of labor unions.

Anyway, as promised, now that I have made the statement, I will leave it alone. Back to technology talk.

Thank you,

Victor

On Jul 25, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Laz <laz@...> wrote:

brian, As you've posted earlier about list rules most common in
different lists you belong to then you must be aware that two subjects
which are not welcome on many lists are politics and religion. These
two subjects as well as being off topic for this list, can wreak havoc
on any lists due to the many varied and slanted viewpoints which are
strongly held by individuals. This list is very easy-going when it
comes to topics and one should police one's own messages so as to not
cause upset or discord amongst its membership. I am not going to
address the false statements about how Americans weren't able to get
health care until Obamacare came along which BTW has been penalizing
my wife about $800 per year since its inception because she can't
afford to pay for her own Obamacare plan. Even before Obamacare any
indigent could show up at a hospital and receive needed health care
and that was the reason given for why an aspirin cost $50 if you had
health insurance. But that false statement you made about Obamacare
was something you must have read somewhere and obviously since you
reside either in Canada or the UK don't have first-hand knowledge of.

Now if we could please get back to the purpose of this list...

laz List moderator

On 7/25/18, Brian K. Lingard <bkl@...> wrote:
Dear Gene & List:

Have been told by at least one Federation State President, that while ACB
and NFB National get alone like TNT and a lit match, in some states,
Florida
for one, ACB and NFB agree on many issues and work together to resolve
them.

You neglected to mention the antics of the G. O. P. House during the Obama
administration, reflexively disliking anything the President proposed.

Certainly hope all the folks who can no longer afford adequate Health
Insurance remember to register and present themselves at their Polling
Place
on Election Day in America 2018 and especially 2020.

If I could, would run some Public Service Announcements where a bunch of
Average Americans, white, black, yellow and red all say they cannot bother
to vote.

Then show who wins the election: A horned devil with a tail and a very
unfriendly dog to ensure no one sneaks out the gate to his place of
residence!

Of course the Satanist Party of America would say I am picking on their
deity, proceed to the U. S. Courthouse to obtain an injunction to require
me
to stop my ad campaign.
Brian


From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

More NFB bashing. I have written about this before.

I have never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness
organization.

Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television? I
think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.
However, the NFB does not behave like a five-year-old and oppose something
just because the ACB is in favor of it. Are you aware that, many years
ago,
the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree
on?
I do not follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember
when
this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of
cooperation in the past. In addition, as I recall, this movement occurred
at about the same time as the description on television controversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Fr
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM
To: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
Cc: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV


That is the source of the problem.

The NFB fought against described tv, largely I think because the ACB was
fighting to have it.

The NFB went to congress and said blind folk did not need it in effect.

The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the NFB.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in
discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the
blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they
take
action.

Gerald



From: Gene
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I
understand ABC already does this, should have description available on
line.
In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television
broadcasts because that was how most people got television. Now, any
network that does not make material they broadcast described on the network
available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since
increasingly, content is viewed on line. Not to mention that over air
broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical
difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the
described stream for this or that episode of something. Yet I never hear a
word about this from organizations like ACB, which fought for years for
broadcast description.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Victor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi Jean:

Sadly, I agree. This was well intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal
should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep
something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible
as well.

Victor



On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:


So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Evan Reese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Sci-Fi channel
has not
worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if
they
were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel
is
gone.
Sounds like maybe they are just letting it run itself and they are not
going
to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
Evan

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Hill
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
To: TechTalk
Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV? It seems
like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.


Does anyone have any info on what is going on?


Thanks Muchly,

Nancy




--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Players, Accessible phones,
Bluetooth devices, and accessories
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Gene
 

Not to mention the fact that you had one sentence about how the ACB and NFB get along, and then, transitionbed, for no logical reason, into a completely different topic, Republican and Democratic legislators during the Obama administration and from there into health care.  Just because the ACB and NFB are organizations where members elect officeholders and have conventions has no connection to Congress and from there, to health care.  Almost all of your message was about healthcare, not even remotely related to any subject that would be on topic for the list.  What Congress does has nothing to do with what the NFB and ACB does.  No legislator in Congress is a member of either organization and if Congress behaves in a certain way or not has not even the remotest connection to how either blindness advocacy organization gets along, cooperates, or doesn't.  And what does any of this have to do with health care?
 
If you wantt to talk about health care, then please discuss technology regarding health care and blindness.  And that is a completely different subject and should be in a completely new thread. 
 
This list allows a certain amount of off topic discussion but this is beyond the limit.  If, for example, we were discussing meddical devices for blind users, or how to use devices even though they are not accessible, and the topic of how to pay for them or how to deal with doctors that discriminate against blind people came up, or questions regarding how to apply for medicare coverage, those topics would be allowed for a time, but not a ppolitical tangent that has not even the remotest connection to anything the list is intended to discuss and that is likely to stir up a lot of divisive and quite possibly heated discussion.
 
There is a subgroup of the list that is a general chat group.  You may discuss anything within reason there. 
 
Gene Asner, list owner
----- Original Message -----

From: Laz
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

brian, As you've posted earlier about list rules most common in
different lists you belong to then you must be aware that two subjects
which are not welcome on many lists are politics and religion. These
two subjects as well as being off topic for this list, can wreak havoc
on any lists due to the many varied and slanted viewpoints which are
strongly held by individuals. This list is very easy-going when it
comes to topics and one should police one's own messages so as to not
cause upset or discord amongst its membership. I am not going to
address the false statements about how Americans weren't able to get
health care until Obamacare came along which BTW has been penalizing
my wife about $800 per year since its inception because she can't
afford to pay for her own Obamacare plan. Even before Obamacare any
indigent could show up at a hospital and receive needed health care
and that was the reason given for why an aspirin cost $50 if you had
health insurance. But that false statement you made about Obamacare
was something you must have read somewhere and obviously since you
reside either in Canada or the UK don't have first-hand knowledge of.

Now if we could please get back to the purpose of this list...

laz List moderator

On 7/25/18, Brian K. Lingard <bkl@...> wrote:
> Dear Gene & List:
>
> Have been told by at least one Federation State President, that while ACB
> and NFB National get alone like TNT and a lit match, in some states,
> Florida
> for one, ACB and NFB agree on many issues and work together to resolve
> them.
>
> You neglected to mention the antics of the G. O. P. House during the Obama
> administration, reflexively disliking anything the President proposed.
>
> Certainly hope all the folks who can no longer afford adequate Health
> Insurance remember to register and present themselves at their Polling
> Place
> on Election Day in America 2018 and especially 2020.
>
> If I could, would run some Public Service Announcements where a bunch of
> Average Americans, white, black, yellow and red all say they cannot bother
> to vote.
>
> Then show who wins the election: A horned devil with a tail and a very
> unfriendly dog to ensure no one sneaks out the gate to his place of
> residence!
>
> Of course the Satanist Party of America would say I am picking on their
> deity, proceed to the U. S. Courthouse to obtain an injunction to require
> me
> to stop my ad campaign.
> Brian
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Gene
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:55 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> More NFB bashing.  I have written about this before.
>
> I have never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness
> organization.
>
> Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television?  I
> think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.
> However, the NFB does not behave like a five-year-old and oppose something
> just because the ACB is in favor of it.  Are you aware that, many years
> ago,
> the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree
> on?
> I do not follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember
> when
> this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of
> cooperation in the past.  In addition, as I recall, this movement occurred
> at about the same time as the description on television controversy.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Fr
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM
> To: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
> Cc: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>
> That is the source of the problem.
>
> The NFB fought against described tv, largely I think because the ACB was
> fighting to have it.
>
> The NFB went to congress and said blind folk did not need it in effect.
>
> The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the NFB.
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
>
>>
>> If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in
> discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the
> blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they
> take
> action.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Gene
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>> And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I
> understand ABC already does this, should have description available on
> line.
> In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television
> broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any
> network that does not make material they broadcast described on the network
> available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since
> increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air
> broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical
> difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the
> described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a
> word about this from organizations like ACB, which fought for years for
> broadcast description.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Victor
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>> Hi Jean:
>>
>> Sadly, I agree. This was well intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal
> should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep
> something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible
> as well.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...
> <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>   So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.
>>
>>   Gene
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>   From: Evan Reese
>>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
>>   To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>>   Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Sci-Fi channel
> has not
>>   worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if
> they
>>   were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel
> is
>>   gone.
>>   Sounds like maybe they are just letting it run itself and they are not
> going
>>   to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
>>   Evan
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: Nancy Hill
>>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
>>   To: TechTalk
>>   Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>>   Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
>>   like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
>>   I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.
>>
>>
>>   Does anyone have any info on what is going on?
>>
>>
>>   Thanks Muchly,
>>
>>   Nancy
>
>
>
>
>


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andy.tidwell
 

Hello, I thought this was about blindy.tv maybe I came in to late on this one.

I really liked listening to some of the channels on blindy.tv but the sifi channel has been off for about a year now and that was one of my favorites.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 

Not to mention the fact that you had one sentence about how the ACB and NFB get along, and then, transitionbed, for no logical reason, into a completely different topic, Republican and Democratic legislators during the Obama administration and from there into health care.  Just because the ACB and NFB are organizations where members elect officeholders and have conventions has no connection to Congress and from there, to health care.  Almost all of your message was about healthcare, not even remotely related to any subject that would be on topic for the list.  What Congress does has nothing to do with what the NFB and ACB does.  No legislator in Congress is a member of either organization and if Congress behaves in a certain way or not has not even the remotest connection to how either blindness advocacy organization gets along, cooperates, or doesn't.  And what does any of this have to do with health care?

 

If you wantt to talk about health care, then please discuss technology regarding health care and blindness.  And that is a completely different subject and should be in a completely new thread. 

 

This list allows a certain amount of off topic discussion but this is beyond the limit.  If, for example, we were discussing meddical devices for blind users, or how to use devices even though they are not accessible, and the topic of how to pay for them or how to deal with doctors that discriminate against blind people came up, or questions regarding how to apply for medicare coverage, those topics would be allowed for a time, but not a ppolitical tangent that has not even the remotest connection to anything the list is intended to discuss and that is likely to stir up a lot of divisive and quite possibly heated discussion.

 

There is a subgroup of the list that is a general chat group.  You may discuss anything within reason there. 

 

Gene Asner, list owner

----- Original Message -----

From: Laz

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 11:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 

brian, As you've posted earlier about list rules most common in
different lists you belong to then you must be aware that two subjects
which are not welcome on many lists are politics and religion. These
two subjects as well as being off topic for this list, can wreak havoc
on any lists due to the many varied and slanted viewpoints which are
strongly held by individuals. This list is very easy-going when it
comes to topics and one should police one's own messages so as to not
cause upset or discord amongst its membership. I am not going to
address the false statements about how Americans weren't able to get
health care until Obamacare came along which BTW has been penalizing
my wife about $800 per year since its inception because she can't
afford to pay for her own Obamacare plan. Even before Obamacare any
indigent could show up at a hospital and receive needed health care
and that was the reason given for why an aspirin cost $50 if you had
health insurance. But that false statement you made about Obamacare
was something you must have read somewhere and obviously since you
reside either in Canada or the UK don't have first-hand knowledge of.

Now if we could please get back to the purpose of this list...

laz List moderator

On 7/25/18, Brian K. Lingard <bkl@...> wrote:
> Dear Gene & List:
>
> Have been told by at least one Federation State President, that while ACB
> and NFB National get alone like TNT and a lit match, in some states,
> Florida
> for one, ACB and NFB agree on many issues and work together to resolve
> them.
>
> You neglected to mention the antics of the G. O. P. House during the Obama
> administration, reflexively disliking anything the President proposed.
>
> Certainly hope all the folks who can no longer afford adequate Health
> Insurance remember to register and present themselves at their Polling
> Place
> on Election Day in America 2018 and especially 2020.
>
> If I could, would run some Public Service Announcements where a bunch of
> Average Americans, white, black, yellow and red all say they cannot bother
> to vote.
>
> Then show who wins the election: A horned devil with a tail and a very
> unfriendly dog to ensure no one sneaks out the gate to his place of
> residence!
>
> Of course the Satanist Party of America would say I am picking on their
> deity, proceed to the U. S. Courthouse to obtain an injunction to require
> me
> to stop my ad campaign.
> Brian
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Gene
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:55 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> More NFB bashing.  I have written about this before.
>
> I have never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness
> organization.
>
> Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television?  I
> think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.
> However, the NFB does not behave like a five-year-old and oppose something
> just because the ACB is in favor of it.  Are you aware that, many years
> ago,
> the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree
> on?
> I do not follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember
> when
> this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of
> cooperation in the past.  In addition, as I recall, this movement occurred
> at about the same time as the description on television controversy.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Fr
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM
> To: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
> Cc: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>
> That is the source of the problem.
>
> The NFB fought against described tv, largely I think because the ACB was
> fighting to have it.
>
> The NFB went to congress and said blind folk did not need it in effect.
>
> The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the NFB.
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
>
>>
>> If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in
> discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the
> blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they
> take
> action.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Gene
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>> And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I
> understand ABC already does this, should have description available on
> line.
> In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television
> broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any
> network that does not make material they broadcast described on the network
> available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since
> increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air
> broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical
> difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the
> described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a
> word about this from organizations like ACB, which fought for years for
> broadcast description.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Victor
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>> Hi Jean:
>>
>> Sadly, I agree. This was well intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal
> should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep
> something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible
> as well.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...
> <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>   So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.
>>
>>   Gene
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>   From: Evan Reese
>>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
>>   To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>>   Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Sci-Fi channel
> has not
>>   worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if
> they
>>   were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel
> is
>>   gone.
>>   Sounds like maybe they are just letting it run itself and they are not
> going
>>   to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
>>   Evan
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: Nancy Hill
>>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
>>   To: TechTalk
>>   Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>>   Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
>>   like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
>>   I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.
>>
>>
>>   Does anyone have any info on what is going on?
>>
>>
>>   Thanks Muchly,
>>
>>   Nancy
>
>
>
>
>


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Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Laz & List:

Yes, am in Canada. Will direct discussions of politics etc. to ACB Chat, where they discuss many things, including controversial ones.

 

Sorry about that.


Brian

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of andy.tidwell
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 

Hello, I thought this was about blindy.tv maybe I came in to late on this one.

I really liked listening to some of the channels on blindy.tv but the sifi channel has been off for about a year now and that was one of my favorites.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 

Not to mention the fact that you had one sentence about how the ACB and NFB get along, and then, transitioned, for no logical reason, into a completely different topic, Republican and Democratic legislators during the Obama administration and from there into health care.  Just because the ACB and NFB are organizations where members elect officeholders and have conventions has no connection to Congress and from there, to health care.  Almost all of your message was about healthcare, not even remotely related to any subject that would be on topic for the list.  What Congress does has nothing to do with what the NFB and ACB does.  No legislator in Congress is a member of either organization and if Congress behaves in a certain way or not has not even the remotest connection to how either blindness advocacy organization gets along, cooperates, or doesn't.  In addition, what does any of this have to do with health care?

 

If you want to talk about health care, then please discuss technology regarding health care and blindness.  That is a completely different subject and should be in a completely new thread. 

 

This list allows a certain amount of off topic discussion but this is beyond the limit.  If, for example, we were discussing medical devices for blind users, or how to use devices even though they are not accessible, and the topic of how to pay for them or how to deal with doctors that discriminate against blind people came up, or questions regarding how to apply for Medicare coverage, those topics would be allowed for a time, but not a political tangent that has not even the remotest connection to anything the list is intended to discuss and that is likely to stir up a lot of divisive and quite possibly heated discussion.

 

There is a subgroup of the list that is a general chat group.  You may discuss anything within reason there. 

 

Gene Asner, list owner

----- Original Message -----

From: Laz

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 11:34 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV

 

brian, As you have posted earlier about list rules most common in
different lists you belong to then you must be aware that two subjects
which are not welcome on many lists are politics and religion. These
two subjects as well as being off topic for this list, can wreak havoc
on any lists due to the many varied and slanted viewpoints which are
strongly held by individuals. This list is very easy-going when it
comes to topics and one should police one's own messages so as to not
cause upset or discord amongst its membership. I am not going to
address the false statements about how Americans were not able to get
health care until Obamacare came along which BTW has been penalizing
my wife about $800 per year since its inception because she can't
afford to pay for her own Obamacare plan. Even before Obamacare any
indigent could show up at a hospital and receive needed health care
in addition, that was the reason given for why an aspirin cost $50 if you had
health insurance. However, that false statement you made about Obamacare
was something you must have read somewhere and obviously since you?
reside either in Canada or the UK do not have first-hand knowledge of.

Now if we could please get back to the purpose of this list...

Laz List moderator

On 7/25/18, Brian K. Lingard <bkl@...> wrote:
> Dear Gene & List:
>
> Have been told by at least one Federation State President, that while ACB
> and NFB National get alone like TNT and a lit match, in some states,
> Florida
> for one, ACB and NFB agree on many issues and work together to resolve
> them.
>
> You neglected to mention the antics of the G. O. P. House during the Obama
> administration, reflexively disliking anything the President proposed.
>
> Certainly hope all the folks who can no longer afford adequate Health
> Insurance remember to register and present themselves at their Polling
> Place
> on Election Day in America 2018 and especially 2020.
>
> If I could, would run some Public Service Announcements where a bunch of
> Average Americans, white, black, yellow and red all say they cannot bother
> to vote.
>
> Then show who wins the election: A horned devil with a tail and a very
> unfriendly dog to ensure no one sneaks out the gate to his place of
> residence!
>
> Of course the Satanist Party of America would say I am picking on their
> deity, proceed to the U. S. Courthouse to obtain an injunction to require
> me
> to stop my ad campaign.
> Brian
>
>
> From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Gene
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:55 AM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
> More NFB bashing.  I have written about this before.
>
> I have never seen you make one positive comment about any blindness
> organization.
>
> Have you read the reasons the NFB opposed description on television?  I
> think they were self-defeating, with incorrect premises and bad reasoning.
> However, the NFB does not behave like a five-year-old and oppose something
> just because the ACB is in favor of it.  Are you aware that, many years
> ago,
> the NFB and ACB started working more on certain projects they both agree
> on?
> I do not follow blindness organizations much these days, but I remember
> when
> this change occurred because it was such a contrast to the lack of
> cooperation in the past.  In addition, as I recall, this movement occurred
> at about the same time as the description on television controversy.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> Fr
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:24 AM
> To: Gerald Levy <mailto:bwaylimited@...>
> Cc: main@techtalk.groups.io <mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>
>
> That is the source of the problem.
>
> The NFB fought against described tv, largely I think because the ACB was
> fighting to have it.
>
> The NFB went to congress and said blind folk did not need it in effect.
>
> The good progress begun to have description stalled because of the NFB.
>
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Gerald Levy wrote:
>
>>
>> If you feel so strongly that the major TV networks are engaging in
> discrimination against blind viewers, then you should contact one of the
> blindness advocacy groups and express your outrage and demand that they
> take
> action.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Gene
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:38 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>> And programs available online from the major networks, CBS, NBC, PBS, I
> understand ABC already does this, should have description available on
> line.
> In the nineties and early 2000's, the emphasis was rightly on television
> broadcasts because that was how most people got television.  Now, any
> network that does not make material they broadcast described on the network
> available described online is engaging in blatant discrimination since
> increasingly, content is viewed on line.  Not to mention that over air
> broadcasts may be interrupted for news events, weather alerts, or technical
> difficulties at a station or problems with the station receiving the
> described stream for this or that episode of something.  Yet I never hear a
> word about this from organizations like ACB, which fought for years for
> broadcast description.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Victor
>> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:05 PM
>> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>> Hi Jean:
>>
>> Sadly, I agree. This was well intentioned, but on sustainable. The goal
> should be to make Hulu and Netflix accessible rather than trying to keep
> something like Blind SA.tv going. They need to make Amazon prime accessible
> as well.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...
> <mailto:gsasner@...> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>   So much for another well-intentioned, unsustainable service.
>>
>>   Gene
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>   From: Evan Reese
>>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:46 AM
>>   To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>   Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>>   Well, I have all five channels bookmarked here, but the Sci-Fi channel
> has not
>>   worked for many months. I wrote to them a few months ago asking them if
> they
>>   were going to restore it, but I got no response. Now the Drama channel
> is
>>   gone.
>>   Sounds like maybe they are just letting it run itself and they are not
> going
>>   to fix the channels when they eventually quit.
>>   Evan
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: Nancy Hill
>>   Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 1:05 AM
>>   To: TechTalk
>>   Subject: [TechTalk] Blindy.TV
>>
>>   Hi All, does anyone else listen to the shows on Blindy.TV?  It seems
>>   like their channel for Drama has not been working for over a week now.
>>   I have written to them to inquire, but have heard nothing.
>>
>>
>>   Does anyone have any info on what is going on?
>>
>>
>>   Thanks Muchly,
>>
>>   Nancy
>
>
>
>
>


-- Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Players, Accessible phones,
Bluetooth devices, and accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@...
Phone: 727-498-0121
Skype: lazmesa
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