chrome brower


Lorena Pennington
 

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Lorena,

First, you actually do not need to create a Google account in order to use Chrome. The browser should behave very similarly to others that you may have used. To go to a Web site, press ctrl-L, which moves to the address bar or what Chrome calls the omnibox. Once you're focused on the address bar, just type in the Web site address you want to visit, followed by the enter key. If you want to visit a Web site you've already been to, just type in a partial name, followed by down arrow for suggestions.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 9/21/2018 10:36 PM, Lorena Pennington wrote:
I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Lorena Pennington
 

hi david thanks replying I’m using windows 7 64 bit jaws 2018 and I don’t want to use chrome browser as my default I’m using enternet explorer as my default can you help me with chrome and tell how to use if it’s not your default thanks much
 

Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Lorena,

First, you actually do not need to create a Google account in order to use Chrome. The browser should behave very similarly to others that you may have used. To go to a Web site, press ctrl-L, which moves to the address bar or what Chrome calls the omnibox. Once you're focused on the address bar, just type in the Web site address you want to visit, followed by the enter key. If you want to visit a Web site you've already been to, just type in a partial name, followed by down arrow for suggestions.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/21/2018 10:36 PM, Lorena Pennington wrote:
I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Lorena,

If you don't want Chrome to be your default browser you can continue to use it with many of the same commands that you're used to with Internet Explorer. Chrome may ask you if you want it to be your default browser but you can just tell it not to do this if you're prompted. Pretty much all of the reading and navigation commands you're accustomed to with JAWS and IE should work with Chrome.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 9/21/2018 11:46 PM, Lorena Pennington wrote:
hi david thanks replying I’m using windows 7 64 bit jaws 2018 and I don’t want to use chrome browser as my default I’m using enternet explorer as my default can you help me with chrome and tell how to use if it’s not your default thanks much
 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Lorena,

First, you actually do not need to create a Google account in order to use Chrome. The browser should behave very similarly to others that you may have used. To go to a Web site, press ctrl-L, which moves to the address bar or what Chrome calls the omnibox. Once you're focused on the address bar, just type in the Web site address you want to visit, followed by the enter key. If you want to visit a Web site you've already been to, just type in a partial name, followed by down arrow for suggestions.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/21/2018 10:36 PM, Lorena Pennington wrote:
I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Gene
 

You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a browser.  I've never looked into why people might want accounts. 
 
I don't know what kinds of problems you are having but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be able to go to a web page in that way.
 
Book marks can be created with control d, just as in Internet Explorer.
 
To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu similar to Internet Explorer.
 
There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then, what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.  Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the same thing.
 
Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus screen-reader commands, not browser commands.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I believe that one of the benefits of creating a Google account with Chrome is that settings can be synced across different versions of the Chrome browser across platforms, similar to how Google does this with Chromebooks. If a user has a Gmail address then they already have a Google account, anyway.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a browser.  I've never looked into why people might want accounts. 
 
I don't know what kinds of problems you are having but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be able to go to a web page in that way.
 
Book marks can be created with control d, just as in Internet Explorer.
 
To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu similar to Internet Explorer.
 
There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then, what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.  Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the same thing.
 
Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus screen-reader commands, not browser commands.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies, which will mean better accessibility with some sites. Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for some time but it will not receive any new enhancements, leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a browser.  I've never looked into why people might want accounts. 
 
I don't know what kinds of problems you are having but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be able to go to a web page in that way.
 
Book marks can be created with control d, just as in Internet Explorer.
 
To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu similar to Internet Explorer.
 
There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then, what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.  Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the same thing.
 
Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus screen-reader commands, not browser commands.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Gene
 

All that having a browser as the default means is, for example, that if you follow links from e-mail messages, the default browser will open and follow the link.  And if you type a link using the run dialog and press enter, the default browser will follow the link.  You can use any browser by opening it and working in the browser whether it is the default browser or not.
 
Any program that isn't the default program can be used if you work in the program.  A program being the default means that if you take an action, such as press enter on a file, that the default program will be the one to open and play or show or run or whatever, the file.  If Winamp is your default audio player, if you press enter on an audio file, it will play in Winamp unless Winamp can't play that file type. 
 
But you can open any audio program that can play that file type, and play it from within the program. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

hi david thanks replying I’m using windows 7 64 bit jaws 2018 and I don’t want to use chrome browser as my default I’m using enternet explorer as my default can you help me with chrome and tell how to use if it’s not your default thanks much
 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Lorena,

First, you actually do not need to create a Google account in order to use Chrome. The browser should behave very similarly to others that you may have used. To go to a Web site, press ctrl-L, which moves to the address bar or what Chrome calls the omnibox. Once you're focused on the address bar, just type in the Web site address you want to visit, followed by the enter key. If you want to visit a Web site you've already been to, just type in a partial name, followed by down arrow for suggestions.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/21/2018 10:36 PM, Lorena Pennington wrote:
I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Gene
 

I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have available but as a main browser, it is increasingly incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies, which will mean better accessibility with some sites. Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for some time but it will not receive any new enhancements, leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a browser.  I've never looked into why people might want accounts. 
 
I don't know what kinds of problems you are having but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be able to go to a web page in that way.
 
Book marks can be created with control d, just as in Internet Explorer.
 
To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu similar to Internet Explorer.
 
There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then, what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.  Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the same thing.
 
Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus screen-reader commands, not browser commands.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Gerald Levy
 

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used Chrome, so I can’t comment on it, and don’t know whether it has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have available but as a main browser, it is increasingly incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies, which will mean better accessibility with some sites. Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for some time but it will not receive any new enhancements, leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a browser.  I've never looked into why people might want accounts. 
 
I don't know what kinds of problems you are having but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be able to go to a web page in that way.
 
Book marks can be created with control d, just as in Internet Explorer.
 
To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu similar to Internet Explorer.
 
There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then, what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.  Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the same thing.
 
Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus screen-reader commands, not browser commands.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Carolyn Arnold
 

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower


Not true at all. IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE. Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites. And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum. And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered. I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.

Gerald


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer. I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash. Internet Explorer is
archaic. It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower


Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser. I've never looked into why people might want
accounts.

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help. For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f. Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter. You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone. Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@ca.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much


brian
 

    Youtube does still work with internet exploror but some vidis might not play.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/22/2018 2:21 AM, Gene wrote:
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have available but as a main browser, it is increasingly incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies, which will mean better accessibility with some sites. Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for some time but it will not receive any new enhancements, leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a browser.  I've never looked into why people might want accounts. 
 
I don't know what kinds of problems you are having but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be able to go to a web page in that way.
 
Book marks can be created with control d, just as in Internet Explorer.
 
To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu similar to Internet Explorer.
 
There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then, what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.  Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the same thing.
 
Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus screen-reader commands, not browser commands.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Gene
 

Firefox works well for many blind users.  For some, I don't know how many, it has problems of slowness with the release of Quantum.  Have you tried Youtube in the last day with IE11?  Youtube has made some sort of change and it is much more restrictive now as to what browsers and versions it will work with.  After this change, does it still work with IE11?
 
Those who use Internet Explorer report that it is working with increasingly fewer web sites.  There are times when you can do something with Internet Explorer such as access a certain control on a web site that you can't with the other browsers widely used by blind people, but it is increasingly limited and is increasingly less suitable as a main browser, a circumstance that will grow increasingly worse over time.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used Chrome, so I can’t comment on it, and don’t know whether it has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have available but as a main browser, it is increasingly incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies, which will mean better accessibility with some sites. Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for some time but it will not receive any new enhancements, leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a browser.  I've never looked into why people might want accounts. 
 
I don't know what kinds of problems you are having but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be able to go to a web page in that way.
 
Book marks can be created with control d, just as in Internet Explorer.
 
To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu similar to Internet Explorer.
 
There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then, what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.  Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the same thing.
 
Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus screen-reader commands, not browser commands.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it from ninite do I need to create a account with google and can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the chrome browser thanks much


Gene
 

But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






brian
 

    Yes it does and my friend does use it as well.   I do use fire fox but Ido go in to ie from time to time to find out if it still works.  We keep hearing about  ie not working but thats jst not true.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/22/2018 12:37 PM, Gene wrote:
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Gene
 

Not true for what?  It is a fact that it works for fewer sites over time.  It may still work for the sites you use and for the sites many blind people use but it is becoming increasingly limited over time. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: brian
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

    Yes it does and my friend does use it as well.   I do use fire fox but Ido go in to ie from time to time to find out if it still works.  We keep hearing about  ie not working but thats jst not true.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/22/2018 12:37 PM, Gene wrote:
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Gerald Levy
 

 
I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Gene
 

I don't use Internet Explorer, as I said, I don't have that version on any of my machines.  I don't have any general problem.  But since Youtube made some sort of change very recently and I can't use older browsers to listen to streams, I didn't know if you still could with IE11.  Evidently, you still can.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.
 
Gerald
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much






Ann Marie Medlar
 

Hi all,

After reading this message amdand went to Fast.Com and my speed is

110 MPS.

Then figured I would check out YouTube

And clicked link about Paul McCartney.  He has new record Egypt Station out and I hope to score tickets to his show. 

Link for Paul and no issues with IE Jaws2018.  Enjoyed Paul on YouTube. 

https://fast.com/

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

 

I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com> On
9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Lorena Pennington
<mailto:lpennington3@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much





Ann Marie Medlar
 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Marie Medlar
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 3:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

Hi all,

After reading this message amdand went to Fast.Com and my speed is

110 MPS.

Then figured I would check out YouTube

And clicked link about Paul McCartney.  He has new record Egypt Station out and I hope to score tickets to his show. 

Link for Paul and no issues with IE Jaws2018.  Enjoyed Paul on YouTube. 

https://fast.com/

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

 

I just accessed five different Youtube  pages at random using IE 11and JAWS 16 and they all played.  Maybe the problem you are experiencing is with NVDA, not with Youtube.  Or maybe there’s a problem with your ISP and your Internet download speed is very slow.  Some Youtube videos will not play at all if your Internet speed is too slow.  You can perform a quick check of your Internet download speed by visiting Fast.com.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

But, as I asked in a previous message, have you tried Youtube in the last day?  I was able to use older browsers up until about a day ago.  No longer.  I don't have IE11 on any of my machines but it needs to be tested to see if it still works with Youtube unless those saying it works have used it within about the last day or day and a half.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:01 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 

I have no problem with IE with YouTube or with stocks, the
main two Internet types I use.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:29 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower

 
Not true at all.  IE 11 still works perfectly well with
Youtube. And if any browser is incapable of doing things
that most blind computer users needa browser to do, it is
Firefox, not IE.  Firefox Quantum no longer works with
popular blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum, Navigational
Sounds and Plain Old Favorites.  And some JAWS users have
reported sluggish performance with Firefox Quantum.  And its
built-in RSS feed reader has never been accessible, unlike
the RSS feed reader built into IE, which is by far, the most
accessible feed reader I have encountered.  I have not used
Chrome, so I can't comment on it, and don't know whether it
has a built-in RSS feed reader. The fact that Firefox has
been steadily losing market share among browsers attests to
its growing unpopulairty with users who are sick and tired
of its frequent and forced updates.
 
Gerald
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:21 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 
I suspect that you can no longer use Youtube with Internet
Explorer.  I may be wrong but I am skeptical that Internet
Explorer supports HTML5, whyich is increasingly being used
for audio as it replaces Flash.  Internet Explorer is
archaic.  It is useful at times and important to have
available but as a main browser, it is increasingly
incapable of doing many things people want a browser to do.
 
Gene
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From: David Goldfield <mailto:david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 1:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] chrome brower
 

Additionally, I think that you will find Chrome to be a
faster and more responsive browser compared to Internet
Explorer. It will also take advantage of newer technologies,
which will mean better accessibility with some sites.
Internet Explorer 11 will still receive security updates for
some time but it will not receive any new enhancements,
leaving it somewhat behind compared to Firefox and Chrome.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
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9/22/2018 2:05 AM, Gene wrote:


You don't need an account to juse use Chrome as a
browser.  I've never looked into why people might want
accounts. 

I don't know what kinds of problems you are having
but the following may help.  For now, if you use control l
to move to the address bar to type an address, you will be
able to go to a web page in that way.

Book marks can be created with control d, just as in
Internet Explorer.

To move around in bookmarks, open the menu with alt
f, hold alt and type f.  Then type b to move to bookmarks in
the menu and press enter.  You are now in a bookmarks menu
similar to Internet Explorer.

There is a tutorial a list member wrote for Chrome
and it will probably be sent to you by someone.  Until then,
what I've written will allow you to begin to use it.
Browsing itself is just about identical since both programs
use browse mode or the Virtual PC Cursor, both names for the
same thing.

Commands like h for heading, b for button, etc. will
all work because they are browse mode commands, and thus
screen-reader commands, not browser commands.

Gene
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From: Lorena Pennington
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
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Subject: [TechTalk] chrome brower

I need help with the chrome brower I down loaded it
from ninite do I need to create a account with google and
can some one give me step by step instruction how to use the
chrome browser thanks much