Nervous about upgrading to windows ten
Jamie
Hi, everyone,
I’ve heard a lot of good things about windows ten, but I’ve also heard that
the accessibility leaves a lot to be desired. What is everyone’s opinions,
should I upgrade now, or wait until later. And if I do upgrade now, are there
things I need to know right away to begin using windows ten? If I do wait until
later, might anyone have a suggestion as to how long to wait.
Or am I being too cautious about this whole thing? Thank you for all
responses. I really appreciate it very much.
Jamie
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christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
Up to you. Accessibility is good under Windows 10. I would not wait too long, or you will have to pay for the upgrade rather than get it free. The offer expires next July 29.
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On 28 Dec 2015, at 19:27, Jamie <jamdim@comcast.net> wrote:
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Allen West
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@icloud.com> wrote:Allen
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Pamela Dominguez
All right; where is your message? Pam.
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From: Allen West Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:50 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@icloud.com> wrote:Allen ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6176 / Virus Database: 4489/11274 - Release Date: 12/28/15
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Carlos
At the bottom. This is why I encourage members to post their replies at the
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top. Bottom posting only confuses other members and forces everyone to work harder.
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From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten All right; where is your message? Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Allen West Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:50 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Christopher HallsworthAllen ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6176 / Virus Database: 4489/11274 - Release Date: 12/28/15
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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hello,
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And, with IOS, it actually puts you at the top of the message by default. When you hear insertion point at start, you're good to go.
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From: Carlos <carlos1106@nyc.rr.com> To: TechTalk@groups.io Date: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:07 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Sent from a Braille Sense
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Howard Traxler <howard@...>
at the bottom
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From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten All right; where is your message? Pam. -----Original Message----- From: Allen West Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:50 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@icloud.com> wrote:Allen ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6176 / Virus Database: 4489/11274 - Release Date: 12/28/15
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Quentin Christensen
Hi Jamie,
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Windows 10 is largely as accessible as previous versions. The main issues are: - The browser: Microsoft are pushing "Edge" as the new browser and so far it's pretty inaccessible. They still include Internet Explorer, however you need to choose it manually or set it as your default (and several Windows updates have reinstated Edge as the default browser which is really annoying). - The Store: This is designed as Microsoft's central repository of apps and programs - much like Linux has had for years and Android and iOS have as well - sadly the store and most of the apps on it aren't overly accessible at this stage either, but you can definitely just ignore them and keep using the traditional programs you've been using. The start menu works well though obviously has been redesigned from what you've used previously. The taskbar, desktop, system tray and many other features work much as previously. The system tray now includes an "Action Center" which you can get to by pressing WINDOWS+A which has all your notifications together so that's handy. If upgrading be sure and check that the programs you use work with Windows 10 - most recent things should be fine, but if using adaptive technology for instance, make sure you have a version that will work - annoying to take advantage of the free upgrade but then find you need to shell out a couple hundred on a Jaws upgrade! I listed the various AT versions needed here: https://22point.wordpress.com/#Windows I've also got a book with lots of good info on upgrading and making the most of Windows 10: http://www.22point.com.au/publications.html Finally, in terms of times - the free upgrade offer from Microsoft is only valid until the end of July 2016, so make sure you upgrade before then if you plan to. Note that you don't have to - if you are using Windows 10 and quite happy to stay with it, then you can do that and it will continue to be supported until 2020, with Windows 8 support ending a couple of years after that. Kind regards Quentin. -- 22 Point Web: http://www.22point.com.au Check out our "Making Windows 10 Easy" eBooks and award winning app, RapiTap!
On 29/12/2015 6:27 AM, Jamie wrote:
Hi, everyone,
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Carlos
Also, while I hate to play devil's advocate, it is worth noting the privacy
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concerns that exist with Windows 10 and what can be done to help alleviate them. See the following article. https://fix10.isleaked.com/
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin.christensen@gmail.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Hi Jamie,
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Quentin Christensen
Definitely, good point. The other thing to note with the free upgrade, is that the upgrade is for the life of that machine - so if you go out and buy a new computer, you'll need to get a new copy of Windows with it. You can upgrade your computer hard drive, ram etc, but if you change the motherboard / CPU then it's considered a new PC and will need a new license for windows (as best as I can find out).
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Kind regards Quentin. -- 22 Point Web: http://www.22point.com.au Check out our "Making Windows 10 Easy" eBooks and award winning app, RapiTap!
On 29/12/2015 10:17 AM, Carlos wrote:
Also, while I hate to play devil's advocate, it is worth noting the privacy
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Matt
Well, you have a year from the time it came out to do it. So still have plenty of time. That is to get it free. Now I personally think if you are running W8 version then it is a no brainer to update. Now if you are running W7 I would say it is a choice but like I say there is no big hurry as of now. I also think if you want to go ahead and play around with it is to do a dual boot and have both W7 and W10 your PC. I would not dual boot with W8 I would just upgrade to w10 myself! JMT!
From: Jamie [mailto:jamdim@...]
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 2:27 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten
Hi, everyone, I’ve heard a lot of good things about windows ten, but I’ve also heard that the accessibility leaves a lot to be desired. What is everyone’s opinions, should I upgrade now, or wait until later. And if I do upgrade now, are there things I need to know right away to begin using windows ten? If I do wait until later, might anyone have a suggestion as to how long to wait. Or am I being too cautious about this whole thing? Thank you for all responses. I really appreciate it very much. Jamie
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Jamie
Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight?
That is what I currently have is windows eight.
Also, won’t microsoft make you update to windows ten in January?
And thanks to everyone for all the helpful and kind responses.
Jamie
From: Matt
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows
ten Well, you have a year from the time it came out to do it. So still have plenty of time. That is to get it free. Now I personally think if you are running W8 version then it is a no brainer to update. Now if you are running W7 I would say it is a choice but like I say there is no big hurry as of now. I also think if you want to go ahead and play around with it is to do a dual boot and have both W7 and W10 your PC. I would not dual boot with W8 I would just upgrade to w10 myself! JMT!
From: Jamie
[mailto:jamdim@...]
Hi, everyone, I’ve heard a lot of good things about windows ten, but I’ve also heard that the accessibility leaves a lot to be desired. What is everyone’s opinions, should I upgrade now, or wait until later. And if I do upgrade now, are there things I need to know right away to begin using windows ten? If I do wait until later, might anyone have a suggestion as to how long to wait. Or am I being too cautious about this whole thing? Thank you for all responses. I really appreciate it very much. Jamie
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Loy <loyrg2845@...>
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No, you won't be forced to upgrade if you
uncheck, In Windows Update settings "give me
recommended updates the same way I receive important
updates"
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Donna
Does windows ten work like seven I have not done that one as yet either but need to soon just hope I can learn it do not have any help from any one that is blind as I am.. DonnaAt 09:28 AM 12/29/2015, you wrote:
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Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight? That is what I currently have is windows eight.
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Carlos
I would say that like with any new version of Windows there are always
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differences, but Windows is still Windows and in that respect 10 essentially works the same. I suppose it is a matter of prospective. At least in my opinion, if you have ever used one version of Windows, then you can use them all. It is a matter of learning what things have been added, changed, or in many cases renamed which just takes time. Of course that does not guarantee that you will always like everything about a newer version of Windows.
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From: "Donna" <donnamarie1947@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Does windows ten work like seven I have not done that one as yet either but need to soon just hope I can learn it do not have any help from any one that is blind as I am.. DonnaAt 09:28 AM 12/29/2015, you wrote: Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight?
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Carlos
I agree with statements that if you are running 8/8.1, there are fewer
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reasons not to upgrade. The Windows 10 core is based on Windows 8 so Windows 10 is essentially an updated version of Windows 8. Not taking into account the privacy concerns, it basically just adds features to what you already have including a Start menu. One of the things which made 8 less popular was the lack of a Start menu. Upgrading from 8 to 10 is probably less of a transition than upgrading from 7 to 10.
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From: "Donna" <donnamarie1947@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Does windows ten work like seven I have not done that one as yet either but need to soon just hope I can learn it do not have any help from any one that is blind as I am.. DonnaAt 09:28 AM 12/29/2015, you wrote: Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight?
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Onwardbob
I've been following this thread with interest, and I'm wondering why no one
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has mentioned Cortana. I was looking forward to that particular feature. Is there a problem with it? BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG
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From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:07 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten I agree with statements that if you are running 8/8.1, there are fewer reasons not to upgrade. The Windows 10 core is based on Windows 8 so Windows 10 is essentially an updated version of Windows 8. Not taking into account the privacy concerns, it basically just adds features to what you already have including a Start menu. One of the things which made 8 less popular was the lack of a Start menu. Upgrading from 8 to 10 is probably less of a transition than upgrading from 7 to 10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <donnamarie1947@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Does windows ten work like seven I have not done that one as yet either but need to soon just hope I can learn it do not have any help from any one that is blind as I am.. DonnaAt 09:28 AM 12/29/2015, you wrote: Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight?using windows ten? If I do wait until later, might anyone have a suggestion as to how long
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Carlos
LOL no reason other than we probably just forgot. Although I personally
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consider Cortana a fluff feature with which I am not overly impressed. It also contributes to the privacy concerns in Windows 10.
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From: "Onwardbob" <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten I've been following this thread with interest, and I'm wondering why no one has mentioned Cortana. I was looking forward to that particular feature. Is there a problem with it? BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG -----Original Message----- From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:07 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten I agree with statements that if you are running 8/8.1, there are fewer reasons not to upgrade. The Windows 10 core is based on Windows 8 so Windows 10 is essentially an updated version of Windows 8. Not taking into account the privacy concerns, it basically just adds features to what you already have including a Start menu. One of the things which made 8 less popular was the lack of a Start menu. Upgrading from 8 to 10 is probably less of a transition than upgrading from 7 to 10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <donnamarie1947@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Does windows ten work like seven I have not done that one as yet either but need to soon just hope I can learn it do not have any help from any one that is blind as I am.. DonnaAt 09:28 AM 12/29/2015, you wrote: Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight?using windows ten? If I do wait until later, might anyone have a suggestion as to how long
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Matt
Yes it does make a concern to privacy. But so does google on android and
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Siri on iPhone and Siri on other devices. I can see though how it would be helpful for certain people with certain handicaps. Especially as it gets older and better. So as just being blind and no other handicap it might not really help. But I can see other handicaps with blindness or without blindness in making it easier to use the computer. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com
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From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:36 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten LOL no reason other than we probably just forgot. Although I personally consider Cortana a fluff feature with which I am not overly impressed. It also contributes to the privacy concerns in Windows 10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Onwardbob" <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten I've been following this thread with interest, and I'm wondering why no one has mentioned Cortana. I was looking forward to that particular feature. Is there a problem with it? BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG -----Original Message----- From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:07 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten I agree with statements that if you are running 8/8.1, there are fewer reasons not to upgrade. The Windows 10 core is based on Windows 8 so Windows 10 is essentially an updated version of Windows 8. Not taking into account the privacy concerns, it basically just adds features to what you already have including a Start menu. One of the things which made 8 less popular was the lack of a Start menu. Upgrading from 8 to 10 is probably less of a transition than upgrading from 7 to 10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <donnamarie1947@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Does windows ten work like seven I have not done that one as yet either but need to soon just hope I can learn it do not have any help from any one that is blind as I am.. DonnaAt 09:28 AM 12/29/2015, you wrote: Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight?using windows ten? If I do wait until later, might anyone have a suggestion as to how long
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Carlos
Well yes, the point has been made that Siri and Google Now basically do the
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same thing. Although I personally don't use either one of those. I am not impressed by nor do I have a need for personal assistant software.
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From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Yes it does make a concern to privacy. But so does google on android and Siri on iPhone and Siri on other devices. I can see though how it would be helpful for certain people with certain handicaps. Especially as it gets older and better. So as just being blind and no other handicap it might not really help. But I can see other handicaps with blindness or without blindness in making it easier to use the computer. Matt.from.florida@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:36 PM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten LOL no reason other than we probably just forgot. Although I personally consider Cortana a fluff feature with which I am not overly impressed. It also contributes to the privacy concerns in Windows 10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Onwardbob" <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten I've been following this thread with interest, and I'm wondering why no one has mentioned Cortana. I was looking forward to that particular feature. Is there a problem with it? BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG -----Original Message----- From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:07 AM To: TechTalk@groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten I agree with statements that if you are running 8/8.1, there are fewer reasons not to upgrade. The Windows 10 core is based on Windows 8 so Windows 10 is essentially an updated version of Windows 8. Not taking into account the privacy concerns, it basically just adds features to what you already have including a Start menu. One of the things which made 8 less popular was the lack of a Start menu. Upgrading from 8 to 10 is probably less of a transition than upgrading from 7 to 10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <donnamarie1947@roadrunner.com> To: <TechTalk@groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Nervous about upgrading to windows ten Does windows ten work like seven I have not done that one as yet either but need to soon just hope I can learn it do not have any help from any one that is blind as I am.. DonnaAt 09:28 AM 12/29/2015, you wrote: Why would it be better to upgrade to windows ten if I have windows eight?using windows ten? If I do wait until later, might anyone have a suggestion as to how long
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