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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hello,
I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no advanced in general, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is-denied I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself is hard. Sent from a Braille Sense
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Carlos
The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while back which might help.
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Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does have equivalent commands to chmod. For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext"&&icacls "C:\folder name\file name.ext" /grant administrators:F To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F /t If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. 3. Navigate to the "Security" tab. 4. Tab to the "Advanced" button and select it. 5. See what it says in the "Owner" field. If it already says "Administrators" proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like "TrustedInstaller" tab to the "Change" link and press the Spacebar to select it. 6. Type "Administrators" and select the "OK" button. 7. Tab to the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox and enable it. 8. Select the "Apply" button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, Windows Security If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK 9. Select the "OK" button to close the dialog and then select "OK" twice more to close the "Advanced Security Settings" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to reopen the "Properties" dialog. 11. Return to the "Security" tab. 12. Select the "Edit" button. 13. Select "Administrators" from the list. 14. Tab to the "Allow Full control" checkbox and enable it. 15. Select the "Apply" button. 16. Select the "OK" button twice to close the "Permissions" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again.
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From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Hello,
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Mohamed
Also, here is a registry hack that adds "Take ownership" to the right click menu. http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/takeownership.zip
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From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:01:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while back which might help. Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does have equivalent commands to chmod. For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext"&&icacls "C:\folder name\file name.ext" /grant administrators:F To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F /t If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. 3. Navigate to the "Security" tab. 4. Tab to the "Advanced" button and select it. 5. See what it says in the "Owner" field. If it already says "Administrators" proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like "TrustedInstaller" tab to the "Change" link and press the Spacebar to select it. 6. Type "Administrators" and select the "OK" button. 7. Tab to the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox and enable it. 8. Select the "Apply" button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, Windows Security If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK 9. Select the "OK" button to close the dialog and then select "OK" twice more to close the "Advanced Security Settings" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to reopen the "Properties" dialog. 11. Return to the "Security" tab. 12. Select the "Edit" button. 13. Select "Administrators" from the list. 14. Tab to the "Allow Full control" checkbox and enable it. 15. Select the "Apply" button. 16. Select the "OK" button twice to close the "Permissions" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Hello, I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no advanced in general, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is -denied I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself is hard. Sent from a Braille Sense
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Carlos
Yes I have suggested that registry hack occasionally as well, but I recall that at least once it did not work for me in Windows 10. Although later it did work so who knows.
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From: "Mohamed" <malhajamy@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Also, here is a registry hack that adds "Take ownership" to the right click menu. http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/takeownership.zip
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Mohamed
Yes, it does work on Windows 10, at least in my experience.
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From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:13:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Yes I have suggested that registry hack occasionally as well, but I recall that at least once it did not work for me in Windows 10. Although later it did work so who knows. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mohamed" <malhajamy@... To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Also, here is a registry hack that adds "Take ownership" to the right click menu. http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/takeownership.zip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:01:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while back which might help. Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does have equivalent commands to chmod. For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext"&&icacls "C:\folder name\file name.ext" /grant administrators:F To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F /t If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. 3. Navigate to the "Security" tab. 4. Tab to the "Advanced" button and select it. 5. See what it says in the "Owner" field. If it already says "Administrators" proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like "TrustedInstaller" tab to the "Change" link and press the Spacebar to select it. 6. Type "Administrators" and select the "OK" button. 7. Tab to the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox and enable it. 8. Select the "Apply" button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, Windows Security If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK 9. Select the "OK" button to close the dialog and then select "OK" twice more to close the "Advanced Security Settings" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to reopen the "Properties" dialog. 11. Return to the "Security" tab. 12. Select the "Edit" button. 13. Select "Administrators" from the list. 14. Tab to the "Allow Full control" checkbox and enable it. 15. Select the "Apply" button. 16. Select the "OK" button twice to close the "Permissions" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Hello, I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no advanced in general, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is -denied I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself is hard. Sent from a Braille Sense
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Carlos
Yes I was surprised that it didn't work on that occasion since it basically uses the same commands I posted in my earlier message. Ah well, sometimes there's no accounting for the arbitrary nature of computers.
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From: "Mohamed" <malhajamy@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Yes, it does work on Windows 10, at least in my experience.
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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
OK, when I press enter on it, the folder refuses to open. At least this one. The other, I messed up entirely. They are both application data in question, one on the local disk, the other in the user, in this case, Rajmund.
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From: Carlos <carlos1106@...> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied
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Carlos
Did you try to take ownership as described before attempting to access the folder? If not, why are you pressing Enter?
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From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied OK, when I press enter on it, the folder refuses to open. At least this one. The other, I messed up entirely. They are both application data in question, one on the local disk, the other in the user, in this case, Rajmund.
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Mohamed
You really shouldn't be messing with those folders. They are using NTFS permitions to deny access to everyone. I think you could access them if you wanted, but they're probably blocking you from accessing them for a reason.
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From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 17:54:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied OK, when I press enter on it, the folder refuses to open. At least this one. The other, I messed up entirely. They are both application data in question, one on the local disk, the other in the user, in this case, Rajmund. Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while back which might help. Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does have equivalent commands to chmod. For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext“&&icacls "C:\folder name\file name.ext" /grant administrators:F To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F /t If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. 3. Navigate to the "Security" tab. 4. Tab to the "Advanced" button and select it. 5. See what it says in the "Owner" field. If it already says "Administrators" proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like "TrustedInstaller" tab to the "Change" link and press the Spacebar to select it. 6. Type "Administrators" and select the "OK" button. 7. Tab to the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox and enable it. 8. Select the "Apply" button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, Windows Security If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK 9. Select the "OK" button to close the dialog and then select "OK" twice more to close the "Advanced Security Settings" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to reopen the "Properties" dialog. 11. Return to the "Security" tab. 12. Select the "Edit" button. 13. Select "Administrators" from the list. 14. Tab to the "Allow Full control" checkbox and enable it. 15. Select the "Apply" button. 16. Select the "OK" button twice to close the "Permissions" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Hello, I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no advanced in general, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is -denied I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself is hard. Sent from a Braille Sense
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Carlos
Well there can be valid reasons for accessing such folders, but yes unless you know what you are doing, you may want to stop and consider the reason you need access to them.
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From: "Mohamed" <malhajamy@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied You really shouldn't be messing with those folders. They are using NTFS permitions to deny access to everyone. I think you could access them if you wanted, but they're probably blocking you from accessing them for a reason. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 17:54:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied OK, when I press enter on it, the folder refuses to open. At least this one. The other, I messed up entirely. They are both application data in question, one on the local disk, the other in the user, in this case, Rajmund. Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while back which might help. Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does have equivalent commands to chmod. For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext"&&icacls "C:\folder name\file name.ext" /grant administrators:F To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F /t If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. 3. Navigate to the "Security" tab. 4. Tab to the "Advanced" button and select it. 5. See what it says in the "Owner" field. If it already says "Administrators" proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like "TrustedInstaller" tab to the "Change" link and press the Spacebar to select it. 6. Type "Administrators" and select the "OK" button. 7. Tab to the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox and enable it. 8. Select the "Apply" button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, Windows Security If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK 9. Select the "OK" button to close the dialog and then select "OK" twice more to close the "Advanced Security Settings" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to reopen the "Properties" dialog. 11. Return to the "Security" tab. 12. Select the "Edit" button. 13. Select "Administrators" from the list. 14. Tab to the "Allow Full control" checkbox and enable it. 15. Select the "Apply" button. 16. Select the "OK" button twice to close the "Permissions" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Hello, I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no advanced in general, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is -denied I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself is hard. Sent from a Braille Sense
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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Too bad the link doesn't work,, I would have loved to get it....
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From: Mohamed <malhajamy@...> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:11 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied
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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
OK, here's a theory. After messing with your, and the article's instructions, which got me nowhere, I tried the worse ever thing possible, delete. At first, they wouldn't even delete, but they have now. Since I can open everything absolutely everything else, I think something corrupted somewhere. I presume it'll recreate them when it needs them.
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From: Carlos <carlos1106@...> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied
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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hi Carlos,
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Since the HP died, and not even sighted can reset it through settings, I'll get them to try something later. So for good, as far as I know, am back to 8.1. Sorry for not including that in the question. Oh, it's a 64 bit version, if that matters. And with a damn numpad, which I can't stand. Sent from a Braille Sense
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From: Carlos <carlos1106@...> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:14 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied
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Carlos
Rajmund, if you arbitrarily delete folders who's purpose you do not know, you will continue to have problems.
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From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied OK, here's a theory. After messing with your, and the article's instructions, which got me nowhere, I tried the worse ever thing possible, delete. At first, they wouldn't even delete, but they have now. Since I can open everything absolutely everything else, I think something corrupted somewhere. I presume it'll recreate them when it needs them.
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Gene
Don't presume when you delete things that you don't
know enough about to delete. Wouldn't it have made more sense to ask
first? And do you have system restore working, which will probably restore
the folder and files, if needed? It is bad procedure to play around in
this way unless you either know that it is safe or have a reliable way to revert
the machine.Â
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Taking actions such as deleting folders or files on
the presumption that they don't matter is just wreckless.
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Gene
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denied Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos <carlos1106@...> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied > > > The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which > that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for > doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while > back which might help. > > Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the > files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does > have equivalent commands to chmod. > > For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full > permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: > > takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext“&&icacls "C:\folder name\file > name.ext" /grant administrators:F > > To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: > > takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F > /t > > If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: > > 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. > > 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. > > 3. Navigate to the > "Security" > tab. > > 4. Tab to the > "Advanced" > button and select it. > > 5. See what it says in the > "Owner" > field. If it already says > "Administrators" > proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like > "TrustedInstaller" > tab to the > "Change" > link and press the Spacebar to select it. > > 6. Type > "Administrators" > and select the > "OK" > button. > > 7. Tab to the > "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" > checkbox and enable it. > > 8. Select the > "Apply" > button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, > > Windows Security > If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close > and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change > permissions. > OK > > 9. Select the > "OK" > button to close the dialog and then select > "OK" > twice more to close the > "Advanced Security Settings" > and > "Properties" > dialogs respectively. > > 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to > reopen the > "Properties" > dialog. > > 11. Return to the > "Security" > tab. > > 12. Select the > "Edit" > button. > > 13. Select > "Administrators" > from the list. > > 14. Tab to the > "Allow Full control" > checkbox and enable it. > > 15. Select the > "Apply" > button. > > 16. Select the > "OK" > button twice to close the > "Permissions" > and > "Properties" > dialogs respectively. > > 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...> > To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM > Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied > > > > Hello, > > I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no > > advanced in general, > > http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is-denied > > I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, > > it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error > > occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has > > any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself > > is hard. > > > > Sent from a Braille Sense > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Mohamed
Yes Gene, as you probably know, I once deleted the folder for the public user account in Windows, and I couldn't install software. The lesson I learned from that is *never* delete files unless you have a good reason, and if Windows isn't letting you delete them, there's probably a very good reason why.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:15:24 -0600 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Don't presume when you delete things that you don't know enough about to delete. Wouldn't it have made more sense to ask first? And do you have system restore working, which will probably restore the folder and files, if needed? It is bad procedure to play around in this way unless you either know that it is safe or have a reliable way to revert the machine. Taking actions such as deleting folders or files on the presumption that they don't matter is just wreckless. Gene ----- Original Message ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: Rajmund Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:06 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied OK, here's a theory. After messing with your, and the article's instructions, which got me nowhere, I tried the worse ever thing possible, delete. At first, they wouldn't even delete, but they have now. Since I can open everything absolutely everything else, I think something corrupted somewhere. I presume it'll recreate them when it needs them. Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while back which might help. Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does have equivalent commands to chmod. For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext"&&icacls "C:\folder name\file name.ext" /grant administrators:F To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F /t If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. 3. Navigate to the "Security" tab. 4. Tab to the "Advanced" button and select it. 5. See what it says in the "Owner" field. If it already says "Administrators" proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like "TrustedInstaller" tab to the "Change" link and press the Spacebar to select it. 6. Type "Administrators" and select the "OK" button. 7. Tab to the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox and enable it. 8. Select the "Apply" button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, Windows Security If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK 9. Select the "OK" button to close the dialog and then select "OK" twice more to close the "Advanced Security Settings" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to reopen the "Properties" dialog. 11. Return to the "Security" tab. 12. Select the "Edit" button. 13. Select "Administrators" from the list. 14. Tab to the "Allow Full control" checkbox and enable it. 15. Select the "Apply" button. 16. Select the "OK" button twice to close the "Permissions" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Hello, I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no advanced in general, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is -denied I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself is hard. Sent from a Braille Sense
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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Yes, I did. I changed the owner, checked allow read and write, and all that, no joy. But at that point, there were no errors, either. We might have the next issue, though. LOL I'm having nothing but troubles with laptops. I'll start a new thread on this one, though.
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From: Carlos <carlos1106@...> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:56 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied
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Rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
I could always access them on the HP, on windows 10 pro, and they can sure be useful sometimes.
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From: Mohamed <malhajamy@...> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:57 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied
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Gene
You may have discussed it before but I don't
recall. It's also worth pointing out that there are some bloatware
programs that you know can be deleted. But people often delete programs
without knowing what they do and they later find they can't do something that
program would have done. Just because something is included on a computer
by the manufacturer doesn't automatically make it bloatware.Â
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Also, I don't install software unless I have a way to
revert the computer in case the software unexpectedly causes problems and
uninstalling it doesn't stop them or in case the uninstallation causes
unexpected problems. Gene
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is
denied public user account in Windows, and I couldn't install software. The lesson I learned from that is *never* delete files unless you have a good reason, and if Windows isn't letting you delete them, there's probably a very good reason why.  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:15:24 -0600 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Don't presume when you delete things that you don't know enough about to delete. Wouldn't it have made more sense to ask first? And do you have system restore working, which will probably restore the folder and files, if needed? It is bad procedure to play around in this way unless you either know that it is safe or have a reliable way to revert the machine. Taking actions such as deleting folders or files on the presumption that they don't matter is just wreckless. Gene ----- Original Message ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: Rajmund Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:06 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied OK, here's a theory. After messing with your, and the article's instructions, which got me nowhere, I tried the worse ever thing possible, delete. At first, they wouldn't even delete, but they have now. Since I can open everything absolutely everything else, I think something corrupted somewhere. I presume it'll recreate them when it needs them. Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied  The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which  that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for  doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while  back which might help.  Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the  files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does  have equivalent commands to chmod.  For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full  permissions you could use the following from the command prompt:  takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext"&&icacls "C:\folder name\file  name.ext" /grant administrators:F  To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders:  takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F  /t  If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions:  1. Highlight the folder in Explorer.  2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties.  3. Navigate to the  "Security"  tab.  4. Tab to the  "Advanced"  button and select it.  5. See what it says in the  "Owner"  field. If it already says  "Administrators"  proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like  "TrustedInstaller"  tab to the  "Change"  link and press the Spacebar to select it.  6. Type  "Administrators"  and select the  "OK"  button.  7. Tab to the  "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects"  checkbox and enable it.  8. Select the  "Apply"  button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says,  Windows Security  If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close  and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change  permissions.  OK  9. Select the  "OK"  button to close the dialog and then select  "OK"  twice more to close the  "Advanced Security Settings"  and  "Properties"  dialogs respectively.  10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to  reopen the  "Properties"  dialog.  11. Return to the  "Security"  tab.  12. Select the  "Edit"  button.  13. Select  "Administrators"  from the list.  14. Tab to the  "Allow Full control"  checkbox and enable it.  15. Select the  "Apply"  button.  16. Select the  "OK"  button twice to close the  "Permissions"  and  "Properties"  dialogs respectively.  17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again.  ----- Original Message -----  From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@...  To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io  Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM  Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied  Hello,  I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no  advanced in general,  http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is -denied  I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes,  it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error  occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has  any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself  is hard.  Sent from a Braille Sense
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Mohamed
I discussed it a while back when I couldn't install NVDA because I had deleted the folder for the public user account. The issue was that NVDA was trying to put a shortcut in that folder, but it couldn't find it.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:52:41 -0600 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied You may have discussed it before but I don't recall. It's also worth pointing out that there are some bloatware programs that you know can be deleted.. But people often delete programs without knowing what they do and they later find they can't do something that program would have done. Just because something is included on a computer by the manufacturer doesn't automatically make it bloatware. Also, I don't install software unless I have a way to revert the computer in case the software unexpectedly causes problems and uninstalling it doesn't stop them or in case the uninstallation causes unexpected problems. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Mohamed Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:26 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Yes Gene, as you probably know, I once deleted the folder for the public user account in Windows, and I couldn't install software. The lesson I learned from that is *never* delete files unless you have a good reason, and if Windows isn't letting you delete them, there's probably a very good reason why. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 12:15:24 -0600 Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Don't presume when you delete things that you don't know enough about to delete. Wouldn't it have made more sense to ask first? And do you have system restore working, which will probably restore the folder and files, if needed? It is bad procedure to play around in this way unless you either know that it is safe or have a reliable way to revert the machine. Taking actions such as deleting folders or files on the presumption that they don't matter is just wreckless. Gene ----- Original Message ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: Rajmund Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:06 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied OK, here's a theory. After messing with your, and the article's instructions, which got me nowhere, I tried the worse ever thing possible, delete. At first, they wouldn't even delete, but they have now. Since I can open everything absolutely everything else, I think something corrupted somewhere. I presume it'll recreate them when it needs them. Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos <carlos1106@... To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Date: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied The key here is to take ownership of the file or folder in question which that article does mention, but does not actually provide instructions for doing so as far as I can tell. Here are some instructions I wrote a while back which might help. Usually this problem occurs because you have to take ownership of the files/folders before you can grant yourself full permissions. Windows does have equivalent commands to chmod. For example, to take ownership of a specific file and grant yourself full permissions you could use the following from the command prompt: takeown /f "C:\folder name\file name.ext"&&icacls "C:\folder name\file name.ext" /grant administrators:F To do the same with an entire folder, all of it's files and subfolders: takeown /f "C:\folder" /r /d y&&icacls "C:\folder" /grant administrators:F /t If that doesn't work, you can alternatively try the following instructions: 1. Highlight the folder in Explorer. 2. Press Alt Enter to access it's properties. 3. Navigate to the "Security" tab. 4. Tab to the "Advanced" button and select it. 5. See what it says in the "Owner" field. If it already says "Administrators" proceed to step 9. If it says anything else like "TrustedInstaller" tab to the "Change" link and press the Spacebar to select it. 6. Type "Administrators" and select the "OK" button. 7. Tab to the "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" checkbox and enable it. 8. Select the "Apply" button. After a couple of seconds, you should receive a dialog which says, Windows Security If you have just taken ownership of this object, you will need to close and reopen this object's properties before you can view or change permissions. OK 9. Select the "OK" button to close the dialog and then select "OK" twice more to close the "Advanced Security Settings" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 10. Again making sure that the folder is highlighted, press Alt Enter to reopen the "Properties" dialog. 11. Return to the "Security" tab. 12. Select the "Edit" button. 13. Select "Administrators" from the list. 14. Tab to the "Allow Full control" checkbox and enable it. 15. Select the "Apply" button. 16. Select the "OK" button twice to close the "Permissions" and "Properties" dialogs respectively. 17. Try doing whatever you were attempting in the folder again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2000@... To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [TechTalk] FILE or folder location is denied Hello, I tried fixes 1 and 2 on this article, can't try 3, as there's no advanced in general, http://www.thewindowsclub.com/location-is-not-available-access-is -denied I still can't access it. Every time I try to apply any of these changes, it gives an error along the lines of Error applying security dialog, error occurred, deta failed. I can copy the exact text if need be. Anyone has any ideas? Damn, changing laptops on which I don't install things myself is hard. Sent from a Braille Sense
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