windows 7, is it still available?


Keith S
 

Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:

Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Carlos
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:53 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Carlos
 

Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


James Bentley
 

Does anyone know when MS support ends for Windows7?
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Carlos
 

2020.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Does anyone know when MS support ends for Windows7?
 
James B
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Josh Kennedy
 

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.



On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Josh Kennedy
 

i think it ends in january 2020.



On 3/22/2017 7:27 AM, James Bentley wrote:
Does anyone know when MS support ends for Windows7?
 
James B
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

You can still buy it. I saw it on Amazon. Just be careful where you buy it, there are places that sale fake copies.

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:53 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Carlos
 

Yes.  You can disable most of the privacy settings.  There are several utilities to simplify this process such as Spybot Anti-Beacon, 
but even then, how much it continues to report home to Microsoft is still in question based on a few articles I have read.  A local account is of course preferable to a Microsoft account in my opinion.  Although there is not much you can do about forced updates which has on occasion caused problems.  In particular, forced driver updates.  Supposedly the Anniversary edition has made improvements in this respect, but I have not taken the time to perform any testing.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.



On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Carolyn Arnold
 

If you have a Microsoft Account, what do you do to close the
thing?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do
not want a microsoft account you can just make a local
account like you did in older windows versions.






On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:


Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved
security, a few useful new features, support for newer
hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and
forced updates. In addition, it's "Start" menu does not
resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at
all and is not very useful in my opinion. Of course, these
are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.
At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled. And
fortunately, Classic Shell
http://www.classicshell.net/
still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rich De Steno
<mailto:ironrock@verizon.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it
still available?


Just go to Windows 10 at this point. The
Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with
installing it. There is no deadline for blind users.
Windows 10 is not difficult to use.


Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:


Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought
me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she
works at. I have window eyes installed on it, and have
installed the shell start menu program to add more to the
start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am
moving from).

Is windows 7 even still available,
and if so, where can I get it? I absolutely hate windows 8
and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so
popular in windows xp. seems that nearly every person in
the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I
heard of, used xp and now poof.

yes, the learning curve is very
steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu
somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work
with.

So, i basically have put the laptop
on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do
everything. I know, major security holes and what not due
to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.

Thanks for any info on windows 7


Pamela Dominguez
 

Supposedly 2020.  Pam.
 

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Does anyone know when MS support ends for Windows7?
 
James B
 
 
 
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Pamela Dominguez
 

Yes, but I have heard that they only stay turned off for something like three months.  Somebody else will have to tell you if I am right or not.  Pam.
 

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.

 


On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Virus-free. www.avg.com


Carlos
 

You may be thinking of forced updates which can be deferred, but privacy settings will remain disabled if they are disabled.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Yes, but I have heard that they only stay turned off for something like three months.  Somebody else will have to tell you if I am right or not.  Pam.
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older windows versions.

 


On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:
Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?
 

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 



Virus-free. www.avg.com


Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay; I have a question. Sorry if it seems lame, but what would anybody ever need a microsoft account for? I mean, what do you do with it? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

If you have a Microsoft Account, what do you do to close the
thing?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do
not want a microsoft account you can just make a local
account like you did in older windows versions.






On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:


Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved
security, a few useful new features, support for newer
hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and
forced updates. In addition, it's "Start" menu does not
resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at
all and is not very useful in my opinion. Of course, these
are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.
At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled. And
fortunately, Classic Shell
http://www.classicshell.net/
still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rich De Steno
<mailto:ironrock@verizon.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it
still available?


Just go to Windows 10 at this point. The
Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with
installing it. There is no deadline for blind users.
Windows 10 is not difficult to use.


Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:


Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought
me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she
works at. I have window eyes installed on it, and have
installed the shell start menu program to add more to the
start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am
moving from).

Is windows 7 even still available,
and if so, where can I get it? I absolutely hate windows 8
and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so
popular in windows xp. seems that nearly every person in
the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I
heard of, used xp and now poof.

yes, the learning curve is very
steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu
somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work
with.

So, i basically have put the laptop
on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do
everything. I know, major security holes and what not due
to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.

Thanks for any info on windows 7










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george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

It has all your info like they canhelop you find the serial number of your o
s andmany other things

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pamela Dominguez
Sent: March 22, 2017 07:38
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Okay; I have a question. Sorry if it seems lame, but what would anybody
ever need a microsoft account for? I mean, what do you do with it? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

If you have a Microsoft Account, what do you do to close the thing?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do not want a
microsoft account you can just make a local account like you did in older
windows versions.






On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:


Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new
features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has
privacy issues and forced updates. In addition, it's "Start" menu does not
resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not
very useful in my opinion. Of course, these are only my opinions and does
not mean you shouldn't try it.
At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled. And fortunately, Classic
Shell http://www.classicshell.net/ still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rich De Steno
<mailto:ironrock@verizon.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?


Just go to Windows 10 at this point. The
Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with
installing it. There is no deadline for blind users.
Windows 10 is not difficult to use.


Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:


Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought
me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she
works at. I have window eyes installed on it, and have
installed the shell start menu program to add more to the
start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am
moving from).

Is windows 7 even still available,
and if so, where can I get it? I absolutely hate windows 8
and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so
popular in windows xp. seems that nearly every person in
the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I
heard of, used xp and now poof.

yes, the learning curve is very
steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu
somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work
with.

So, i basically have put the laptop
on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do
everything. I know, major security holes and what not due
to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.

Thanks for any info on windows 7










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Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Keith, is there a computer store near where you live? If yes, I'd suggest
taking a stroll in there to grab a copy of Windows7, any flavor.
Alternately, Amazon, Digital River and a number of online stores can still
sell you a copy.

I'm not sure if you can still find a Retail Copy, but OEM copies are most
certainly out there.

Like you, I have an 8.1 Windows machine sitting here on my office desk. It
has been there for nearly three years if memory serves. I don't do much
with it. But when I get sighted help with a few pieces of paperwork, I wave
them over to the 8.1 machine. At work, I still run XP Professional despite
the fact that it's been KICKED TO THE CURB by Microsoft. At home, I have a
Sony laptop running Windows7 Professional 64Bit. Perhaps when Windows10
Creator gets on the shelves next month, I'll reformat the 8.1 machine and
slap a copy on it and see where things go.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Keith S
 

what is this about the blind?  I haven't heard anything about updates for the blind.
 
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved security, a few useful new features, support for newer hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and forced updates.  In addition, it's "Start" menu does not resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at all and is not very useful in my opinion.  Of course, these are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.  At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled.  And fortunately, Classic Shell
still works on Windows 10 as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Just go to Windows 10 at this point.  The Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with installing it.  There is no deadline for blind users.  Windows 10 is not difficult to use.

Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:
Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she works at.  I have window eyes installed on it, and have installed the shell start menu program to add more to the start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am moving from).
 
Is windows 7 even still available, and if so, where can I get it?  I absolutely hate windows 8 and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so popular in windows xp.  seems that nearly every person in the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I heard of, used xp and now poof. 
 
yes, the learning curve is very steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work with.
 
So, i basically have put the laptop on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do everything.  I know, major security holes and what not  due to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.
 
Thanks for any info on windows 7
 


Keith S
 

and what is the difference between an OM and a retail copy of windows 7?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

Keith, is there a computer store near where you live?  If yes, I'd suggest
taking a stroll in there to grab a copy of Windows7, any flavor.
Alternately, Amazon, Digital River and a number of online stores can still
sell you a copy. 

I'm not sure if you can still find a Retail Copy, but OEM copies are most
certainly out there. 

Like you, I have an 8.1 Windows machine sitting here on my office desk.  It
has been there for nearly three years if memory serves.  I don't do much
with it.  But when I get sighted help with a few pieces of paperwork, I wave
them over to the 8.1 machine.  At work, I still run XP Professional despite
the fact that it's been KICKED TO THE CURB by Microsoft.  At home, I have a
Sony laptop running Windows7 Professional 64Bit.  Perhaps when Windows10
Creator gets on the shelves next month, I'll reformat the 8.1 machine and
slap a copy on it and see where things go. 

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado





Carlos
 

In Windows 8 and later, you need to use a Microsoft account if you want to download/install apps from the Windows Store and use certain other features such as synchronizing of settings between devices. If you don't care about any of those features, you can use a local account which is the traditional type of user account in earlier versions of Windows.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom@optonline.net>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?


Okay; I have a question. Sorry if it seems lame, but what would anybody ever need a microsoft account for? I mean, what do you do with it? Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

If you have a Microsoft Account, what do you do to close the
thing?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it still available?

you can turn off a lot of the privacy settings and if you do
not want a microsoft account you can just make a local
account like you did in older windows versions.






On 3/22/2017 7:18 AM, Carlos wrote:


Windows 10 has some advantages such as improved
security, a few useful new features, support for newer
hardware, blah blah blah, but it also has privacy issues and
forced updates. In addition, it's "Start" menu does not
resemble the "Start" menu in older versions of Windows at
all and is not very useful in my opinion. Of course, these
are only my opinions and does not mean you shouldn't try it.
At least it is a free upgrade for the disabled. And
fortunately, Classic Shell
http://www.classicshell.net/
still works on Windows 10 as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rich De Steno
<mailto:ironrock@verizon.net>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7, is it
still available?


Just go to Windows 10 at this point. The
Microsoft Disability Help Desk can assist you with
installing it. There is no deadline for blind users.
Windows 10 is not difficult to use.


Rich De Steno
On 3/22/2017 6:53 AM, Keith S wrote:


Hi, this past X-mas, my wife bought
me a used windows 8 laptop from a coworker at the casino she
works at. I have window eyes installed on it, and have
installed the shell start menu program to add more to the
start menu so it more resembles windows xp (which I am
moving from).

Is windows 7 even still available,
and if so, where can I get it? I absolutely hate windows 8
and wish windows would just leave things alone that were so
popular in windows xp. seems that nearly every person in
the world, and almost every company, even banks, that I
heard of, used xp and now poof.

yes, the learning curve is very
steep with windows 8, and even with the classic start menu
somewhat back, it's a pain in the (blank) for me to work
with.

So, i basically have put the laptop
on a shelf and still use my windows xp notebook to do
everything. I know, major security holes and what not due
to MS not supporting XP updates anymore, but whatever.

Thanks for any info on windows 7










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