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reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

I've just been given a Microsoft Excel sheet and I need to know how to read letter by letter in each column. It's a list of names and phone numbers and I need to be able to read especially the phone numbers one digit at a time.

Thanks.

Troy
Howard Traxler
 

When I need to do that, I go into edit mode (F2), then I can left and right around in the field. When finished with that cell, I press enter and realize I'm on the next row.  So, if I'm not finished with the original row, I have to up arrow to get back to it.

Howard

On 1/9/2020 7:26 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,

I've just been given a Microsoft Excel sheet and I need to know how to read letter by letter in each column. It's a list of names and phone numbers and I need to be able to read especially the phone numbers one digit at a time.

Thanks.

Troy
Holly
 

Troy:

I have an old version of Excel, but this is what I do to read letter by letter. Arrow to the cell you want to read. Hit the F2 key to go into edit mode. Then press the 'home' key to go to the start of the number and arrow across one number at a time. Hitting the tab key will take you out of edit mode.
Quentin Christensen
 

As well as Howard's method, which will move through the whole cell contents, with NVDA, you can press NVDA+up arrow twice quickly (or if using laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+L twice quickly) which will spell the current line (press just once to read the text rather than spell it) - so you can read the first line within a cell without going into edit mode - names and phone numbers are probably only on one line each.

Quentin

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:33 PM Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
When I need to do that, I go into edit mode (F2), then I can left and
right around in the field. When finished with that cell, I press enter
and realize I'm on the next row.  So, if I'm not finished with the
original row, I have to up arrow to get back to it.

Howard

On 1/9/2020 7:26 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just been given a Microsoft Excel sheet and I need to know how to
> read letter by letter in each column. It's a list of names and phone
> numbers and I need to be able to read especially the phone numbers one
> digit at a time.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>






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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

Troy, have you tried insert-up-arrow pressed twice quickly? Don't know what else to say except the best way to do this is via braille.

Ann P.

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"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

In a cell, hit f2 and it takes you to the edit box at the top of the screen
and then you can arrow left and right to read by charitors. When finished
hit f2 again and you go back to the cell or you can hit enter and go to the
same cell.

Also if you edit the cell from this edit box you need to hit enter to have
the correction be put in the cell and it also takes you back to that cell

hth

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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter

Hi all,

Troy, have you tried insert-up-arrow pressed twice quickly? Don't know what
else to say except the best way to do this is via braille.

Ann P.

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EMAIL: akp@sero.email
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Using NVDA, if you switch to the review cursor and try either the screen echo or object review setting, using the numpad keys 1 2 and 3 you can navigate each cell character by character.

On 1/10/2020 7:12 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

Troy, have you tried insert-up-arrow pressed twice quickly?  Don't know what else to say except the best way to do this is via braille.

Ann P.
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Gene
 

I don't use Excel, but why NVDA plus up arrow?  That command moves you to the higher level object.  I would think just up arrow on the numpad is what you are discussing, which reads the current object.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter

As well as Howard's method, which will move through the whole cell contents, with NVDA, you can press NVDA+up arrow twice quickly (or if using laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+L twice quickly) which will spell the current line (press just once to read the text rather than spell it) - so you can read the first line within a cell without going into edit mode - names and phone numbers are probably only on one line each.

Quentin

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:33 PM Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
When I need to do that, I go into edit mode (F2), then I can left and
right around in the field. When finished with that cell, I press enter
and realize I'm on the next row.  So, if I'm not finished with the
original row, I have to up arrow to get back to it.

Howard

On 1/9/2020 7:26 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just been given a Microsoft Excel sheet and I need to know how to
> read letter by letter in each column. It's a list of names and phone
> numbers and I need to be able to read especially the phone numbers one
> digit at a time.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Gene
 

I think Troy is using JAWS.  While I don't use Excel, I would think it likely that another way would be to route the JAWS cursor to the pc cursor and read the information that way.  There have already been other options discussed and it may somewhat be a matter of preference, but using the JAWS cursor hasn't been discussed yet.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter

Hi all,

Troy, have you tried insert-up-arrow pressed twice quickly?  Don't know
what else to say except the best way to do this is via braille.

Ann P.

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Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
Troy Burnham
 

It took me a couple of tries yesterday but eventually hitting f2 and then the home key and using my arrow keys worked.

Yes I am using jaws, I have NVDA installed and I keep saying I'm going to start using it but I haven't yet.

Troy


On 1/10/2020 10:33 AM, Gene wrote:
I think Troy is using JAWS.  While I don't use Excel, I would think it likely that another way would be to route the JAWS cursor to the pc cursor and read the information that way.  There have already been other options discussed and it may somewhat be a matter of preference, but using the JAWS cursor hasn't been discussed yet.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter

Hi all,

Troy, have you tried insert-up-arrow pressed twice quickly?  Don't know
what else to say except the best way to do this is via braille.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL:  akp@...
Author of The Demmies: http://www.dldbooks.com/annparsons/
Portal Tutoring web site:  http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."
Quentin Christensen
 

NVDA+up arrow in Desktop layout is the command to read the current line - the equivalent of NVDA+L in laptop keyboard layout.
NVDA+up arrow in laptop keyboard layout is the command to move to the previous line with the review cursor.

Up arrow on the number pad is numpad 8, which reads the current line in review which, if the review cursor hasn't moved from the current location, should work similar to NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout or NVDA+L in laptop layout.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:02 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't use Excel, but why NVDA plus up arrow?  That command moves you to the higher level object.  I would think just up arrow on the numpad is what you are discussing, which reads the current object.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter

As well as Howard's method, which will move through the whole cell contents, with NVDA, you can press NVDA+up arrow twice quickly (or if using laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+L twice quickly) which will spell the current line (press just once to read the text rather than spell it) - so you can read the first line within a cell without going into edit mode - names and phone numbers are probably only on one line each.

Quentin

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:33 PM Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
When I need to do that, I go into edit mode (F2), then I can left and
right around in the field. When finished with that cell, I press enter
and realize I'm on the next row.  So, if I'm not finished with the
original row, I have to up arrow to get back to it.

Howard

On 1/9/2020 7:26 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just been given a Microsoft Excel sheet and I need to know how to
> read letter by letter in each column. It's a list of names and phone
> numbers and I need to be able to read especially the phone numbers one
> digit at a time.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Gene
 

I never use NVDA up arrow; I find it much more convenient to use numpad 8.  So I had forgotten that command.  As far as NVDA up arrow is concerned, it is much better to be in object review if you are going to use it.  It is more reliable because by default, NVDA will always move to the object you move to. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter
 
NVDA+up arrow in Desktop layout is the command to read the current line - the equivalent of NVDA+L in laptop keyboard layout.
NVDA+up arrow in laptop keyboard layout is the command to move to the previous line with the review cursor.
 
Up arrow on the number pad is numpad 8, which reads the current line in review which, if the review cursor hasn't moved from the current location, should work similar to NVDA+up arrow in desktop layout or NVDA+L in laptop layout.
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 3:02 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't use Excel, but why NVDA plus up arrow?  That command moves you to the higher level object.  I would think just up arrow on the numpad is what you are discussing, which reads the current object.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading a Microsoft excel sheet letter by letter

As well as Howard's method, which will move through the whole cell contents, with NVDA, you can press NVDA+up arrow twice quickly (or if using laptop keyboard layout, NVDA+L twice quickly) which will spell the current line (press just once to read the text rather than spell it) - so you can read the first line within a cell without going into edit mode - names and phone numbers are probably only on one line each.

Quentin
 
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:33 PM Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
When I need to do that, I go into edit mode (F2), then I can left and
right around in the field. When finished with that cell, I press enter
and realize I'm on the next row.  So, if I'm not finished with the
original row, I have to up arrow to get back to it.

Howard

On 1/9/2020 7:26 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just been given a Microsoft Excel sheet and I need to know how to
> read letter by letter in each column. It's a list of names and phone
> numbers and I need to be able to read especially the phone numbers one
> digit at a time.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>




 
 
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Training and Support Manager

 
 
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