Browser Help Please.


Janet
 

Hi Gene and All,
Brave appears to be working fine now. I did play around with it a little. I do have Brave on my desktop, and when I bring it up, it gives me a edit field, so I just type in what I want to search for, and Brave takes me to Google for the results. I also can now get my downloads to go in to the folder of my choice. In which that is fine. Brave and I are beginning to be friends! Smile! So, all is well thanks to those who helped me with this. I have to admit I am quite relieved that I am rid of that IE, as I had just way too many problems with it.
Thank you again.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

I don't know why it does that. Try using the start menu search, find Brave,
open it and see what happens. It sounds to me as though the short cut is
leading to the wrong place.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
Ok, I finally downloaded the Brave Browser, and I restarted my computer, and
then I had an update from JAWS, and had to restart again, so, I finally got
to try to use Brave. I do have the Brave icon on my desktop, but when I
enter on Brave, it seems to take me to my download folder as that is where I
download files to, instead of Brave connecting to my internet. How can I
get Brave to connect to my internet, so if I want to browse the internet? I
can't find where to tell Brave where to download my files either. Any
suggestions?

Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

If all you want to do is browse and not modify other behavior, that's it.
You may want to change the download location of files or cause the ask where
to save files dialog to come up when you save a file. I'd have to look to
see where those settings are if you have problems finding them.

But if you generally don't change settings in browsers, there is nothing you
need to change in Brave.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
I'm sorry for my late reply, as I was called away from my PC as soon as I
sent the message out to the list, but I am back now. I thank all those who
might have sent me a reply. Gene, I just downloaded the Brave Browser, and
I am currently in the settings options, and I did select the option to make
Brave Browser as my default. Do I need to select any other settings while
I'm in the settings options?
Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Browsing is browsing with any browser that supports the virtual pc cursor or
browse mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it. Firefox, Chrome, and The
Brave browser all support The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. that's the
same thing that you have been using in Internet Explorer. Its unfortunate
that so many people have needless fear and use an increasingly oudated
browser. Use control l instead of control o to move to the address bar,
where you type an address.
Book marks are gotten to a little differently than in Internet Explorer.
I'll send more information about an easy way to work with them in another
message. I sent such a message earlier to another list. Others will, I
hope, tell you more about im;portting book marks. but with either browser,
you will see that navigating web pages is just about identical to doing so
in Internet Explorer. A page may display something a little differently,
for example, a button or link may show different words. On one site I've
worked with to upload files, the button may say something like browse with
one browser and select a file with another browser. Sometimes, different
browsers see different parts of code on web pages.

As far as which browser to use between the Brave browser and Google Chrome,
if you want to use a browser that takes what I consider an ethical stance
towards advertisements on web sites, the Brave browser does. I'll provide a
link to the page where you can read about it and download it.

Aside from its policies on advertising by web sites, the browser itself is
very similar to the Chrome browser, it is based on Chrome.

You will get faster loading of web sites because a lot of commercials are
blocked and its safer because, at times advertising is hacked and hackers
try to download malware through hacked advertising.
https://brave.com/

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I have been having a problem trying to get to any web site do to my IE
browser, so I am finally getting around to it. I can't access half of the
web sites I want to. I have received many messages when I try to get to a
web site, I keep getting the message saying I need to update my browser, or
a message telling me I am using an outdated browser. I am using the latest
IE as my browser along with Windows 7. I have this same problem regardless
which web site I go to. Can someone tell me a little about Brave and Chrome
browsers, as I have always just used IE, but now, IE is almost disabled!
Can someone also please give me a web site to download either browser, as I
am in need for a update browser as soon as possible. Is either of these
browsers difficult to be configured, if so, can someone please tell me what
I need to do?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet
Peace Be With You.


Gene
 

Windows Media Player has a more cconvenient interface in the XP version than in later versions for what I use it for. I use Windows Media Player to speed up spoken word material. It is much better than Winamp, using the Pace Maker plugin or the VLC player for doing this when listening at fast speeds, such as two thirds or twice normal speed. I don't know if there is anything eaquivalently good for use with computers.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Veronica Kirk
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 12:15 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

I mostly use XP for listening to music with WMP. AVG is also on that computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Wow, your using xp! I hope it is not online, totally out dated! I like xp too but, I think the last security updates were sent out on april 8 2014.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Veronica Kirk" <veronicaa.kirk@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


I have kept all three of my computers: windows XP, windows 7 and windows 10.
Each one has something that I like better about it than the others, so I just had to keep all three.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Veronica Kirk
 

I mostly use XP for listening to music with WMP. AVG is also on that computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Wow, your using xp! I hope it is not online, totally out dated! I like xp too but, I think the last security updates were sent out on april 8 2014.
Heather
----- Original Message -----
From: "Veronica Kirk" <veronicaa.kirk@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


I have kept all three of my computers: windows XP, windows 7 and windows 10.
Each one has something that I like better about it than the others, so I just had to keep all three.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


heather albright
 

So strange. But try this windows i and type default and it will get you to your default programs. So find webbrowser, and select brave. So you can go to the run box and type in a site and windows should use brave. And not sure why the short cut does not do this. so delete that short cut and go to your shell apps folder and put brave on it by send the shortcut to the desktop. cheers Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet" <janet.harvard@outlook.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


Hi Gene and All,
Ok, I finally downloaded the Brave Browser, and I restarted my computer, and then I had an update from JAWS, and had to restart again, so, I finally got to try to use Brave. I do have the Brave icon on my desktop, but when I enter on Brave, it seems to take me to my download folder as that is where I download files to, instead of Brave connecting to my internet. How can I get Brave to connect to my internet, so if I want to browse the internet? I can't find where to tell Brave where to download my files either. Any suggestions?

Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

If all you want to do is browse and not modify other behavior, that's it.
You may want to change the download location of files or cause the ask where
to save files dialog to come up when you save a file. I'd have to look to
see where those settings are if you have problems finding them.

But if you generally don't change settings in browsers, there is nothing you
need to change in Brave.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
I'm sorry for my late reply, as I was called away from my PC as soon as I
sent the message out to the list, but I am back now. I thank all those who
might have sent me a reply. Gene, I just downloaded the Brave Browser, and
I am currently in the settings options, and I did select the option to make
Brave Browser as my default. Do I need to select any other settings while
I'm in the settings options?
Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Browsing is browsing with any browser that supports the virtual pc cursor or
browse mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it. Firefox, Chrome, and The
Brave browser all support The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. that's the
same thing that you have been using in Internet Explorer. Its unfortunate
that so many people have needless fear and use an increasingly oudated
browser. Use control l instead of control o to move to the address bar,
where you type an address.
Book marks are gotten to a little differently than in Internet Explorer.
I'll send more information about an easy way to work with them in another
message. I sent such a message earlier to another list. Others will, I
hope, tell you more about im;portting book marks. but with either browser,
you will see that navigating web pages is just about identical to doing so
in Internet Explorer. A page may display something a little differently,
for example, a button or link may show different words. On one site I've
worked with to upload files, the button may say something like browse with
one browser and select a file with another browser. Sometimes, different
browsers see different parts of code on web pages.

As far as which browser to use between the Brave browser and Google Chrome,
if you want to use a browser that takes what I consider an ethical stance
towards advertisements on web sites, the Brave browser does. I'll provide a
link to the page where you can read about it and download it.

Aside from its policies on advertising by web sites, the browser itself is
very similar to the Chrome browser, it is based on Chrome.

You will get faster loading of web sites because a lot of commercials are
blocked and its safer because, at times advertising is hacked and hackers
try to download malware through hacked advertising.
https://brave.com/

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I have been having a problem trying to get to any web site do to my IE
browser, so I am finally getting around to it. I can't access half of the
web sites I want to. I have received many messages when I try to get to a
web site, I keep getting the message saying I need to update my browser, or
a message telling me I am using an outdated browser. I am using the latest
IE as my browser along with Windows 7. I have this same problem regardless
which web site I go to. Can someone tell me a little about Brave and Chrome
browsers, as I have always just used IE, but now, IE is almost disabled!
Can someone also please give me a web site to download either browser, as I
am in need for a update browser as soon as possible. Is either of these
browsers difficult to be configured, if so, can someone please tell me what
I need to do?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet
Peace Be With You.


heather albright
 

Wow, your using xp! I hope it is not online, totally out dated! I like xp too but, I think the last security updates were sent out on april 8 2014. Heather

----- Original Message -----
From: "Veronica Kirk" <veronicaa.kirk@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.


I have kept all three of my computers: windows XP, windows 7 and windows 10. Each one has something that I like better about it than the others, so I just had to keep all three.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Veronica Kirk
 

I have kept all three of my computers: windows XP, windows 7 and windows 10. Each one has something that I like better about it than the others, so I just had to keep all three.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Gene
 

I don't know why it does that. Try using the start menu search, find Brave, open it and see what happens. It sounds to me as though the short cut is leading to the wrong place.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 4:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
Ok, I finally downloaded the Brave Browser, and I restarted my computer, and then I had an update from JAWS, and had to restart again, so, I finally got to try to use Brave. I do have the Brave icon on my desktop, but when I enter on Brave, it seems to take me to my download folder as that is where I download files to, instead of Brave connecting to my internet. How can I get Brave to connect to my internet, so if I want to browse the internet? I can't find where to tell Brave where to download my files either. Any suggestions?

Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

If all you want to do is browse and not modify other behavior, that's it.
You may want to change the download location of files or cause the ask where
to save files dialog to come up when you save a file. I'd have to look to
see where those settings are if you have problems finding them.

But if you generally don't change settings in browsers, there is nothing you
need to change in Brave.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
I'm sorry for my late reply, as I was called away from my PC as soon as I
sent the message out to the list, but I am back now. I thank all those who
might have sent me a reply. Gene, I just downloaded the Brave Browser, and
I am currently in the settings options, and I did select the option to make
Brave Browser as my default. Do I need to select any other settings while
I'm in the settings options?
Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Browsing is browsing with any browser that supports the virtual pc cursor or
browse mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it. Firefox, Chrome, and The
Brave browser all support The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. that's the
same thing that you have been using in Internet Explorer. Its unfortunate
that so many people have needless fear and use an increasingly oudated
browser. Use control l instead of control o to move to the address bar,
where you type an address.
Book marks are gotten to a little differently than in Internet Explorer.
I'll send more information about an easy way to work with them in another
message. I sent such a message earlier to another list. Others will, I
hope, tell you more about im;portting book marks. but with either browser,
you will see that navigating web pages is just about identical to doing so
in Internet Explorer. A page may display something a little differently,
for example, a button or link may show different words. On one site I've
worked with to upload files, the button may say something like browse with
one browser and select a file with another browser. Sometimes, different
browsers see different parts of code on web pages.

As far as which browser to use between the Brave browser and Google Chrome,
if you want to use a browser that takes what I consider an ethical stance
towards advertisements on web sites, the Brave browser does. I'll provide a
link to the page where you can read about it and download it.

Aside from its policies on advertising by web sites, the browser itself is
very similar to the Chrome browser, it is based on Chrome.

You will get faster loading of web sites because a lot of commercials are
blocked and its safer because, at times advertising is hacked and hackers
try to download malware through hacked advertising.
https://brave.com/

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I have been having a problem trying to get to any web site do to my IE
browser, so I am finally getting around to it. I can't access half of the
web sites I want to. I have received many messages when I try to get to a
web site, I keep getting the message saying I need to update my browser, or
a message telling me I am using an outdated browser. I am using the latest
IE as my browser along with Windows 7. I have this same problem regardless
which web site I go to. Can someone tell me a little about Brave and Chrome
browsers, as I have always just used IE, but now, IE is almost disabled!
Can someone also please give me a web site to download either browser, as I
am in need for a update browser as soon as possible. Is either of these
browsers difficult to be configured, if so, can someone please tell me what
I need to do?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet
Peace Be With You.


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I can't tell you how to make Brave open normally since I've never seen it open abnormally.  I'd suggest nuking that desktop icon and putting a new one on the desktop via the method of your choosing.

In Brave Settings, invoked via ALT+F,S, you need to navigate to the Downloads part of Advanced settings and tweak download location, and whether you're asked each time you download or not, there.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Janet
 

Hi All,
I do intend to buy a new Windows 10 laptop. I don't intend on keeping my Windows 7 when I finally get my new Windows 10 laptop for very long, maybe I might keep Windows 7 just until I get used to Windows 10, in which I am hoping that will not take very long.
Good advice from Brian and Gene though.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you
should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly.
If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be
kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades
recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if
I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for
short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal
information.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it
always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs
try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were
tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade
to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up
your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too,
and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10
Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely
fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Janet
 

Hi Gene and All,
Ok, I finally downloaded the Brave Browser, and I restarted my computer, and then I had an update from JAWS, and had to restart again, so, I finally got to try to use Brave. I do have the Brave icon on my desktop, but when I enter on Brave, it seems to take me to my download folder as that is where I download files to, instead of Brave connecting to my internet. How can I get Brave to connect to my internet, so if I want to browse the internet? I can't find where to tell Brave where to download my files either. Any suggestions?

Thank you.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

If all you want to do is browse and not modify other behavior, that's it.
You may want to change the download location of files or cause the ask where
to save files dialog to come up when you save a file. I'd have to look to
see where those settings are if you have problems finding them.

But if you generally don't change settings in browsers, there is nothing you
need to change in Brave.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
I'm sorry for my late reply, as I was called away from my PC as soon as I
sent the message out to the list, but I am back now. I thank all those who
might have sent me a reply. Gene, I just downloaded the Brave Browser, and
I am currently in the settings options, and I did select the option to make
Brave Browser as my default. Do I need to select any other settings while
I'm in the settings options?
Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Browsing is browsing with any browser that supports the virtual pc cursor or
browse mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it. Firefox, Chrome, and The
Brave browser all support The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. that's the
same thing that you have been using in Internet Explorer. Its unfortunate
that so many people have needless fear and use an increasingly oudated
browser. Use control l instead of control o to move to the address bar,
where you type an address.
Book marks are gotten to a little differently than in Internet Explorer.
I'll send more information about an easy way to work with them in another
message. I sent such a message earlier to another list. Others will, I
hope, tell you more about im;portting book marks. but with either browser,
you will see that navigating web pages is just about identical to doing so
in Internet Explorer. A page may display something a little differently,
for example, a button or link may show different words. On one site I've
worked with to upload files, the button may say something like browse with
one browser and select a file with another browser. Sometimes, different
browsers see different parts of code on web pages.

As far as which browser to use between the Brave browser and Google Chrome,
if you want to use a browser that takes what I consider an ethical stance
towards advertisements on web sites, the Brave browser does. I'll provide a
link to the page where you can read about it and download it.

Aside from its policies on advertising by web sites, the browser itself is
very similar to the Chrome browser, it is based on Chrome.

You will get faster loading of web sites because a lot of commercials are
blocked and its safer because, at times advertising is hacked and hackers
try to download malware through hacked advertising.
https://brave.com/

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I have been having a problem trying to get to any web site do to my IE
browser, so I am finally getting around to it. I can't access half of the
web sites I want to. I have received many messages when I try to get to a
web site, I keep getting the message saying I need to update my browser, or
a message telling me I am using an outdated browser. I am using the latest
IE as my browser along with Windows 7. I have this same problem regardless
which web site I go to. Can someone tell me a little about Brave and Chrome
browsers, as I have always just used IE, but now, IE is almost disabled!
Can someone also please give me a web site to download either browser, as I
am in need for a update browser as soon as possible. Is either of these
browsers difficult to be configured, if so, can someone please tell me what
I need to do?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet
Peace Be With You.


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 03:23 PM, Gene wrote:
Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently
-
If you intend to keep using a machine, whether as your "daily driver" or as a backup machine, over the long term then it should be updated to a supported version of Windows, period.

No responsible IT professional (and I am one) would tell anyone otherwise.  I don't presume that folks who keep backup machines don't want something they can pull out and use with complete comfort and familiarity should the need arise.  And, believe me, whether one is using Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 routinely, you will forget how certain things were handled in Windows 7.

You never, ever, ever want to have an unsupported OS in contact with cyberspace if it's at all possible to avoid it.  And all the more so if that OS is a dead version of Windows.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Gene
 

But if someone is getting a separate Windows 10 machine, I disagree that you should upgrade the Windows 7 machine unless you intend to use it regularly. If you intend to keep it as a backup machine, I think Windows 7 should be kept on it. Microsoft has had enough problems with its full upgrades recently that I want a system that is reliable and that won't be upgraded if I have to use it as a backup. Assumedly, using it as a backup would be for short periods if something goes wrong with the Windows 10 machine.

I wouldn't use it in circumstances where I have to give personal information.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Janet,

As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first. These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file



--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Oops, I did omit one important detail, if you want to be able to directly mount an ISO file under Windows 7 you would need a third party utility to make that happen.

You'd be better off following those instructions, but instead creating bootable media (which you won't need to boot from), and running setup.exe from it, instead.  You can find instructions for creating that bootable media at the beginning of this tutorial, and it's only the media creation part you need to do before going back to the simpler in-place upgrade instructions once you've made it:  Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive

I am not telling you to do a completely clean install from beginning to end.  But that instruction set tells you, step-by-step, how to use the Media Creation Tool to create bootable USB media.

 

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Gene
 

If all you want to do is browse and not modify other behavior, that's it. You may want to change the download location of files or cause the ask where to save files dialog to come up when you save a file. I'd have to look to see where those settings are if you have problems finding them.

But if you generally don't change settings in browsers, there is nothing you need to change in Brave.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Gene and All,
I'm sorry for my late reply, as I was called away from my PC as soon as I sent the message out to the list, but I am back now. I thank all those who might have sent me a reply. Gene, I just downloaded the Brave Browser, and I am currently in the settings options, and I did select the option to make Brave Browser as my default. Do I need to select any other settings while I'm in the settings options?
Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Browsing is browsing with any browser that supports the virtual pc cursor or
browse mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it. Firefox, Chrome, and The
Brave browser all support The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. that's the
same thing that you have been using in Internet Explorer. Its unfortunate
that so many people have needless fear and use an increasingly oudated
browser. Use control l instead of control o to move to the address bar,
where you type an address.
Book marks are gotten to a little differently than in Internet Explorer.
I'll send more information about an easy way to work with them in another
message. I sent such a message earlier to another list. Others will, I
hope, tell you more about im;portting book marks. but with either browser,
you will see that navigating web pages is just about identical to doing so
in Internet Explorer. A page may display something a little differently,
for example, a button or link may show different words. On one site I've
worked with to upload files, the button may say something like browse with
one browser and select a file with another browser. Sometimes, different
browsers see different parts of code on web pages.

As far as which browser to use between the Brave browser and Google Chrome,
if you want to use a browser that takes what I consider an ethical stance
towards advertisements on web sites, the Brave browser does. I'll provide a
link to the page where you can read about it and download it.

Aside from its policies on advertising by web sites, the browser itself is
very similar to the Chrome browser, it is based on Chrome.

You will get faster loading of web sites because a lot of commercials are
blocked and its safer because, at times advertising is hacked and hackers
try to download malware through hacked advertising.
https://brave.com/

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I have been having a problem trying to get to any web site do to my IE
browser, so I am finally getting around to it. I can't access half of the
web sites I want to. I have received many messages when I try to get to a
web site, I keep getting the message saying I need to update my browser, or
a message telling me I am using an outdated browser. I am using the latest
IE as my browser along with Windows 7. I have this same problem regardless
which web site I go to. Can someone tell me a little about Brave and Chrome
browsers, as I have always just used IE, but now, IE is almost disabled!
Can someone also please give me a web site to download either browser, as I
am in need for a update browser as soon as possible. Is either of these
browsers difficult to be configured, if so, can someone please tell me what
I need to do?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet
Peace Be With You.


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

          As far as I know, default app setting on Windows 7 works as it always did, and it's way less strict about checking changes when programs try to make them, which has caused enough problems that things were tightened up later.

           I would strongly encourage you to do a no-cost in-place upgrade to Windows 10 at your earliest possible convenience, after having backed up your system first.  These instructions apply to an in-place upgrade, too, and I mention that in the instructions themselves:  Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

 

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Janet
 

Hi Brian,

Thank you for this, I will keep this for when I get Windows 10, in which I am planning to get Windows 10 Laptop very soon.  But, I am currently still on PC Windows 7. 

Janet

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

 

Janet,

          It's always worth opening Windows 10 Settings, Apps, Default Apps if you're on Windows 10 to make sure that your default web browser is Brave if that's what you want.  Things are getting much better as far as Windows 10 allowing applications to set themselves as default on installation on user request, but some still don't succeed in doing so.  It never hurts to check.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Janet,

          It's always worth opening Windows 10 Settings, Apps, Default Apps if you're on Windows 10 to make sure that your default web browser is Brave if that's what you want.  Things are getting much better as far as Windows 10 allowing applications to set themselves as default on installation on user request, but some still don't succeed in doing so.  It never hurts to check.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Janet
 

Hi Gene and All,
I'm sorry for my late reply, as I was called away from my PC as soon as I sent the message out to the list, but I am back now. I thank all those who might have sent me a reply. Gene, I just downloaded the Brave Browser, and I am currently in the settings options, and I did select the option to make Brave Browser as my default. Do I need to select any other settings while I'm in the settings options?
Thank you all for any help in this.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:56 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Browsing is browsing with any browser that supports the virtual pc cursor or
browse mode, whatever your screen-reader calls it. Firefox, Chrome, and The
Brave browser all support The Virtual PC Cursor or Browse mode. that's the
same thing that you have been using in Internet Explorer. Its unfortunate
that so many people have needless fear and use an increasingly oudated
browser. Use control l instead of control o to move to the address bar,
where you type an address.
Book marks are gotten to a little differently than in Internet Explorer.
I'll send more information about an easy way to work with them in another
message. I sent such a message earlier to another list. Others will, I
hope, tell you more about im;portting book marks. but with either browser,
you will see that navigating web pages is just about identical to doing so
in Internet Explorer. A page may display something a little differently,
for example, a button or link may show different words. On one site I've
worked with to upload files, the button may say something like browse with
one browser and select a file with another browser. Sometimes, different
browsers see different parts of code on web pages.

As far as which browser to use between the Brave browser and Google Chrome,
if you want to use a browser that takes what I consider an ethical stance
towards advertisements on web sites, the Brave browser does. I'll provide a
link to the page where you can read about it and download it.

Aside from its policies on advertising by web sites, the browser itself is
very similar to the Chrome browser, it is based on Chrome.

You will get faster loading of web sites because a lot of commercials are
blocked and its safer because, at times advertising is hacked and hackers
try to download malware through hacked advertising.
https://brave.com/

Gene

----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Browser Help Please.

Hi Everyone,
I have been having a problem trying to get to any web site do to my IE
browser, so I am finally getting around to it. I can't access half of the
web sites I want to. I have received many messages when I try to get to a
web site, I keep getting the message saying I need to update my browser, or
a message telling me I am using an outdated browser. I am using the latest
IE as my browser along with Windows 7. I have this same problem regardless
which web site I go to. Can someone tell me a little about Brave and Chrome
browsers, as I have always just used IE, but now, IE is almost disabled!
Can someone also please give me a web site to download either browser, as I
am in need for a update browser as soon as possible. Is either of these
browsers difficult to be configured, if so, can someone please tell me what
I need to do?

Thank you all in advance.
Janet
Peace Be With You.


Holly
 

OK Brian:
 
Thanks for your help.  Guess I will just stick with Google Chrome.


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

Holly,

           Then I can't help further, as Eset is taking full control, and I have no idea how one would get to the Windows Defender Offline Scan if you don't have access to the link I mentioned in the dialog I mentioned.

           I haven't used any third party security suite for some years now and I have no idea of exactly how each "overlays" what would have been done by Windows Security.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com