FW: Installing windows 11
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Pablo Morales
Guys,
My apologies for the repeated email.
I would like to ask to all of you who are low vision or totally blind like me. What are the real benefits of Windows 11 over Windows 10. I mean, more than waking up faster, good for gaming, and these kind of things that might not be very important for all users.
Thanks guys,
Pablo
From: pablocmd2014@... <pablocmd2014@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 8:37 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Installing windows 11
Hello all,
I have use the PC help check app, and according with it my computer is able to run Windows 11. Well, I had to modify some little things on the bios. However, PC help check says that my PC is able to do that. However, the same PC Help Check suggest to wait for the update. Windows 11 has not been released yet? What I find on the Microsoft page is a little bit confusing. It could be because I am outside of US? I know that I can just download the Windows 11 software to a thumb drive and install it. But, why the PC help is giving me this warning?
Thanks all,
Pablo
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Dave
Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to
switch to the newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a
learning curve to get through, as you navigate around learning how
to do the normal stuff you've been doing without thinking about it
in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails
to read the screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a
work around comes along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others
who fall to the temptation of the New Item install it and find out
its strengths and weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a
new release of anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition
goes from X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then
fork out the money for the upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales
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Gene
Advice tends to be to wait three months after a completely new version of
Windows to upgrade. and if you do upgrade, it is very important to know
that Microsoft only gives you ten days to revert if you want to go back to the
previous version you were running.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11 Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the
newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve
to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff
you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the
screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes
along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to
the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and
weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of
anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from
X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the
upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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John Holcomb II
They should give you 11 days because its Windows 11.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 12:16 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
Advice tends to be to wait three months after a completely new version of Windows to upgrade. and if you do upgrade, it is very important to know that Microsoft only gives you ten days to revert if you want to go back to the previous version you were running.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dave via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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Gene
But how many days is xp days?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11 They should give you 11 days because its Windows 11.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Advice tends to be to wait three months after a completely new version of Windows to upgrade. and if you do upgrade, it is very important to know that Microsoft only gives you ten days to revert if you want to go back to the previous version you were running.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dave via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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John Holcomb II
I’m not even sure that was an option in the XP days? I’ve not heard of people upgrading Windows then.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2021 12:40 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
But how many days is xp days?
Gene -----Original Message----- From: John Holcomb II Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
They should give you 11 days because its Windows 11.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Advice tends to be to wait three months after a completely new version of Windows to upgrade. and if you do upgrade, it is very important to know that Microsoft only gives you ten days to revert if you want to go back to the previous version you were running.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dave via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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Gene
I don’t know if you could upgrade to XP and for years, upgrades weren’t
advised, clean installations were, but I upgraded from Windows 3.1 to Windows
95. I would think you could upgrade until Millennium but from that to XP
may have been too different. Others may know.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11 I’m not even sure that was an option in the XP days? I’ve not heard of people upgrading Windows then.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
But how many days is xp days?
Gene -----Original Message----- From: John Holcomb II Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
They should give you 11 days because its Windows 11.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
Advice tends to be to wait three months after a completely new version of Windows to upgrade. and if you do upgrade, it is very important to know that Microsoft only gives you ten days to revert if you want to go back to the previous version you were running.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dave via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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Pamela Dominguez
I am the exact opposite; I am not tempted to install the latest and
greatest just because it is. I hate getting used to new stuff.
Pam.
From: Dave via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11 Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the
newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve
to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff
you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the
screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes
along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to
the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and
weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of
anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from
X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the
upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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Gene
In your message, you say that one reason to upgrade is that the new version
will do things you want to do better than the old version. I suspect you
misstated what you were intending to say. The new version won’t
necessarily do something better or worse and often there is no difference.
I suspect you meant to say may.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11 Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the
newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve
to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff
you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the
screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes
along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to
the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and
weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of
anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from
X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the
upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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Pablo Morales
This is exactly what I am trying to understand. Is windows 11 going to be better than Windows 10? or worse, or the same. I have not seen substantial advantages on Windows 11. Better gaming, faster to wake up, new shape on the desktop. For me these are not enough reasons to replace Windows 10 for a new version that might have a lot of disadvantages specially about accessibility. One thing that I see very curious is that Microsoft marketing campaigns about windows 11 are talking so much about the beauty of Windows 11. However, there is a message that repeats on their advertising . Buy a new computer. Is Microsoft trying to promote the purchase of new devices? What is Microsoft gaming with this promotion? I don’t know how is written the software provisions contract between Microsoft and those computer’s brands. So, nope. I will not update to Windows 11. Nothing justify the risk and efforts. At least, not right now.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 5:28 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
In your message, you say that one reason to upgrade is that the new version will do things you want to do better than the old version. I suspect you misstated what you were intending to say. The new version won’t necessarily do something better or worse and often there is no difference. I suspect you meant to say may.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dave via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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Monte Single
Hi Pablo,
I have a new pc which will run win11, but right now, I cannot think of 1 reason why I would want to do so. Win10 will be fully supported until October of 2025. If, in a few monthsor a year, I discover a good reason to upgrade to win11, I will think about it then.
Cheers,
Monte
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: December 3, 2021 9:44 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
This is exactly what I am trying to understand. Is windows 11 going to be better than Windows 10? or worse, or the same. I have not seen substantial advantages on Windows 11. Better gaming, faster to wake up, new shape on the desktop. For me these are not enough reasons to replace Windows 10 for a new version that might have a lot of disadvantages specially about accessibility. One thing that I see very curious is that Microsoft marketing campaigns about windows 11 are talking so much about the beauty of Windows 11. However, there is a message that repeats on their advertising . Buy a new computer. Is Microsoft trying to promote the purchase of new devices? What is Microsoft gaming with this promotion? I don’t know how is written the software provisions contract between Microsoft and those computer’s brands. So, nope. I will not update to Windows 11. Nothing justify the risk and efforts. At least, not right now.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
In your message, you say that one reason to upgrade is that the new version will do things you want to do better than the old version. I suspect you misstated what you were intending to say. The new version won’t necessarily do something better or worse and often there is no difference. I suspect you meant to say may.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dave via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] FW: Installing windows 11
Hello Pablo,
Funny thing about Upgrades, there is always that temptation to switch to the newest, just because it is the newest.
The problem with New stuff is that often there is a bit of a learning curve to get through, as you navigate around learning how to do the normal stuff you've been doing without thinking about it in the old version. Then there are those unknown places where the Screen Reader fails to read the screen well, and you stumble around until a fix or a work around comes along.
So why Upgrade?
Well, I normally don't until a bit of time has gone by, so others who fall to the temptation of the New Item install it and find out its strengths and weaknesses.
And lets not forget those pesky Bugs that are always part of a new release of anything new.
I usually wait until the first Service Pack, or when the edition goes from X.0 to X.1 before I give in to my curiosity and then fork out the money for the upgrade.
But, there are good reasons to upgrade, and some of those reasons are that the newest version will do what you like to do better than the old version. Perhaps the new edition works better with a Screen Reader. Or perhaps the newest edition has new features that might make your tasks easier to accomplish. If there seems to be real improvements, then perhaps it is time to take the plunge and push the Button to start downloading your Upgrade tonight.
Grumpy Dave
On 12/1/2021 6:01 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
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