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windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window

joanne
 

This even happens a lot in emails too, where opening an email shows blank. To bring the email's contents up I have to either maximize with alt space together and then the letter X; or I have to turn off and then on the Jaws virtual cursor.
 
So that's the email situation and it can be annoying. But it seems to be worse every day, this problem of going to a folder and then, upon opening, seeing nothing till I maximize. Lots of folders do this--the my computer folder, songs, etc. My daughter told me the other day that my screen looked big, which is hard to believe since when I open folders the contents must be too little to see. I don't know what is going on, but am very open to any thoughts. I'm sure the computer and Windows should probably be revamped somehow, and this just seems to be happening way too often.
 
Thanks.
 
Gene
 

I don’t know what is causing the problem and I’m not sure you are really maximizing the window when you think you are.  When you use alt enter, then x to maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, then open any folder again, and issue alt enter again, do you hear restore unavailabgle if you let all speech be spoken or do you just hear restore?  If you just hear restore, that means the folder is already maximized.  If I maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, and open a folder, it is maximized. Maximizing one folder causes all folders to be displayed as maximized until I restore a folder. 
 
Your daughter’s statement makes sense regarding the behavior I’ve seen,  When trouble shooting in such a case, test by listening to full announcements when opening folders.  Don’t assume what is occurring.  That’s a good idea in any case where you are testing to see if a change is retained. 
 
Also, I don’t know if your e-mail program causes things to remain maximized or not after you maximize one instance of something.  But given what you are reporting, I suspect the problem is not whether the window is maximized and I suspect that turning off and on the virtual pc cursor is not necessary.  In all these cases, simply leaving the main window or the whole window and returning may be causing JAWS to read content.  Test this by trying the following:
When you open an e-mail, if nothing is read, press alt to go into the menu or ribbonss.  Press alt again to leave the menus or ribbon and return to the window where you were.  Can you read content then?  Do the same test after you open a folder.  If this allows you to hear content, you should be able to cause content to be read by opening something and pressing alt twice very quickly.  The procedure should be very fast. You should be able to press alt, then immediately after pressing it again.  
 
If that causes material to be read, then your choice is to do this annoying but quick and easy procedure repeatedly or to try to solve the problem.  I have no idea what the problem is.  You could uninstall and reinstall JAWS to see if that solves it.  If it doesn’t, you may have to reinstall Windows or do some sort of repair.  I don’t know enough about that subject to discuss those options further, but it is my understanding that a repair option is available that often is effective at correcting problems without the work and time of reinstalling Windows. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: joanne
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 8:07 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window
 
This even happens a lot in emails too, where opening an email shows blank. To bring the email's contents up I have to either maximize with alt space together and then the letter X; or I have to turn off and then on the Jaws virtual cursor.
 
So that's the email situation and it can be annoying. But it seems to be worse every day, this problem of going to a folder and then, upon opening, seeing nothing till I maximize. Lots of folders do this--the my computer folder, songs, etc. My daughter told me the other day that my screen looked big, which is hard to believe since when I open folders the contents must be too little to see. I don't know what is going on, but am very open to any thoughts. I'm sure the computer and Windows should probably be revamped somehow, and this just seems to be happening way too often.
 
Thanks.
 
Gene
 

I meant to write, do you hear restore unavailable.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window
 
I don’t know what is causing the problem and I’m not sure you are really maximizing the window when you think you are.  When you use alt enter, then x to maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, then open any folder again, and issue alt enter again, do you hear restore unavailabgle if you let all speech be spoken or do you just hear restore?  If you just hear restore, that means the folder is already maximized.  If I maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, and open a folder, it is maximized. Maximizing one folder causes all folders to be displayed as maximized until I restore a folder. 
 
Your daughter’s statement makes sense regarding the behavior I’ve seen,  When trouble shooting in such a case, test by listening to full announcements when opening folders.  Don’t assume what is occurring.  That’s a good idea in any case where you are testing to see if a change is retained. 
 
Also, I don’t know if your e-mail program causes things to remain maximized or not after you maximize one instance of something.  But given what you are reporting, I suspect the problem is not whether the window is maximized and I suspect that turning off and on the virtual pc cursor is not necessary.  In all these cases, simply leaving the main window or the whole window and returning may be causing JAWS to read content.  Test this by trying the following:
When you open an e-mail, if nothing is read, press alt to go into the menu or ribbonss.  Press alt again to leave the menus or ribbon and return to the window where you were.  Can you read content then?  Do the same test after you open a folder.  If this allows you to hear content, you should be able to cause content to be read by opening something and pressing alt twice very quickly.  The procedure should be very fast. You should be able to press alt, then immediately after pressing it again.  
 
If that causes material to be read, then your choice is to do this annoying but quick and easy procedure repeatedly or to try to solve the problem.  I have no idea what the problem is.  You could uninstall and reinstall JAWS to see if that solves it.  If it doesn’t, you may have to reinstall Windows or do some sort of repair.  I don’t know enough about that subject to discuss those options further, but it is my understanding that a repair option is available that often is effective at correcting problems without the work and time of reinstalling Windows. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: joanne
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 8:07 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window
 
This even happens a lot in emails too, where opening an email shows blank. To bring the email's contents up I have to either maximize with alt space together and then the letter X; or I have to turn off and then on the Jaws virtual cursor.
 
So that's the email situation and it can be annoying. But it seems to be worse every day, this problem of going to a folder and then, upon opening, seeing nothing till I maximize. Lots of folders do this--the my computer folder, songs, etc. My daughter told me the other day that my screen looked big, which is hard to believe since when I open folders the contents must be too little to see. I don't know what is going on, but am very open to any thoughts. I'm sure the computer and Windows should probably be revamped somehow, and this just seems to be happening way too often.
 
Thanks.
 
Richard Justice
 


Shouldn't that be, "alt spacebar"?
 
Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window

I don’t know what is causing the problem and I’m not sure you are really maximizing the window when you think you are.  When you use alt enter, then x to maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, then open any folder again, and issue alt enter again, do you hear restore unavailabgle if you let all speech be spoken or do you just hear restore?  If you just hear restore, that means the folder is already maximized.  If I maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, and open a folder, it is maximized. Maximizing one folder causes all folders to be displayed as maximized until I restore a folder. 
 
Your daughter’s statement makes sense regarding the behavior I’ve seen,  When trouble shooting in such a case, test by listening to full announcements when opening folders.  Don’t assume what is occurring.  That’s a good idea in any case where you are testing to see if a change is retained. 
 
Also, I don’t know if your e-mail program causes things to remain maximized or not after you maximize one instance of something.  But given what you are reporting, I suspect the problem is not whether the window is maximized and I suspect that turning off and on the virtual pc cursor is not necessary.  In all these cases, simply leaving the main window or the whole window and returning may be causing JAWS to read content.  Test this by trying the following:
When you open an e-mail, if nothing is read, press alt to go into the menu or ribbonss.  Press alt again to leave the menus or ribbon and return to the window where you were.  Can you read content then?  Do the same test after you open a folder.  If this allows you to hear content, you should be able to cause content to be read by opening something and pressing alt twice very quickly.  The procedure should be very fast. You should be able to press alt, then immediately after pressing it again.  
 
If that causes material to be read, then your choice is to do this annoying but quick and easy procedure repeatedly or to try to solve the problem.  I have no idea what the problem is.  You could uninstall and reinstall JAWS to see if that solves it.  If it doesn’t, you may have to reinstall Windows or do some sort of repair.  I don’t know enough about that subject to discuss those options further, but it is my understanding that a repair option is available that often is effective at correcting problems without the work and time of reinstalling Windows. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: joanne
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 8:07 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window
 
This even happens a lot in emails too, where opening an email shows blank. To bring the email's contents up I have to either maximize with alt space together and then the letter X; or I have to turn off and then on the Jaws virtual cursor.
 
So that's the email situation and it can be annoying. But it seems to be worse every day, this problem of going to a folder and then, upon opening, seeing nothing till I maximize. Lots of folders do this--the my computer folder, songs, etc. My daughter told me the other day that my screen looked big, which is hard to believe since when I open folders the contents must be too little to see. I don't know what is going on, but am very open to any thoughts. I'm sure the computer and Windows should probably be revamped somehow, and this just seems to be happening way too often.
 
Thanks.
 
Gene
 

Yes, I meant alt space bar.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window
 
Shouldn't that be, "alt spacebar"?
 
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window
 
I don’t know what is causing the problem and I’m not sure you are really maximizing the window when you think you are.  When you use alt enter, then x to maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, then open any folder again, and issue alt enter again, do you hear restore unavailabgle if you let all speech be spoken or do you just hear restore?  If you just hear restore, that means the folder is already maximized.  If I maximize a folder, close Windows Explorer, and open a folder, it is maximized. Maximizing one folder causes all folders to be displayed as maximized until I restore a folder. 
 
Your daughter’s statement makes sense regarding the behavior I’ve seen,  When trouble shooting in such a case, test by listening to full announcements when opening folders.  Don’t assume what is occurring.  That’s a good idea in any case where you are testing to see if a change is retained. 
 
Also, I don’t know if your e-mail program causes things to remain maximized or not after you maximize one instance of something.  But given what you are reporting, I suspect the problem is not whether the window is maximized and I suspect that turning off and on the virtual pc cursor is not necessary.  In all these cases, simply leaving the main window or the whole window and returning may be causing JAWS to read content.  Test this by trying the following:
When you open an e-mail, if nothing is read, press alt to go into the menu or ribbonss.  Press alt again to leave the menus or ribbon and return to the window where you were.  Can you read content then?  Do the same test after you open a folder.  If this allows you to hear content, you should be able to cause content to be read by opening something and pressing alt twice very quickly.  The procedure should be very fast. You should be able to press alt, then immediately after pressing it again.  
 
If that causes material to be read, then your choice is to do this annoying but quick and easy procedure repeatedly or to try to solve the problem.  I have no idea what the problem is.  You could uninstall and reinstall JAWS to see if that solves it.  If it doesn’t, you may have to reinstall Windows or do some sort of repair.  I don’t know enough about that subject to discuss those options further, but it is my understanding that a repair option is available that often is effective at correcting problems without the work and time of reinstalling Windows. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: joanne
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2021 8:07 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] windows 7/often folder list looks blank till I maximize the folder's window
 
This even happens a lot in emails too, where opening an email shows blank. To bring the email's contents up I have to either maximize with alt space together and then the letter X; or I have to turn off and then on the Jaws virtual cursor.
 
So that's the email situation and it can be annoying. But it seems to be worse every day, this problem of going to a folder and then, upon opening, seeing nothing till I maximize. Lots of folders do this--the my computer folder, songs, etc. My daughter told me the other day that my screen looked big, which is hard to believe since when I open folders the contents must be too little to see. I don't know what is going on, but am very open to any thoughts. I'm sure the computer and Windows should probably be revamped somehow, and this just seems to be happening way too often.
 
Thanks.
 
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