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Accessible terminal program


Frank Ventura
 

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura


Rick Alfaro
 

Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura


David Goldfield
 

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura







Gene
 

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now. I used to use it in XP for transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program may have changed since then.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used
Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used
to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's
proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm,
Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a
Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal
program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up
my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura








Gene
 

Here is a correction. It was a long time ago, but I just remembered that I didn't use the hyperterminal program in XP. I don't know how easy it was to use but I started out using the Hyperterminal in Windows 95 and 98, which are very different in terms of interface. I seem to recall that Hyperterminal in XP is a command line program and I didn't want to fool around with it since the Windows 95 and 98 version was so easy to use, having a Windows interface. So the forum discussion I provided may not be useful.

There was some sort of security problem with the Windows 95/98 hyperterminal but it doesn't matter for how you are going to use it.

I placed the Windows 95/98 program on my XP machine and used it but I don't know if it runs in Windows 7 and higher.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now. I used to use it in XP for
transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program
may have changed since then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used
Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used
to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's
proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm,
Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a
Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal
program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up
my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura








Rob Hudson
 

As recently as five years ago I was using minicom to transfer files to a braille lite. Back in the xp days I was using a program called hyperterminal. I believe putty or kitty can also do this, though I don't know how to use those programs to communicate over serial. Only ssh.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:32:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used
Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used
to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's
proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm,
Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a
Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal
program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up
my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura










Norman
 

Hi.

If using nvda putty is a good option. It had issues with jaws though the last time i used it with it. I don't know what the current status of jaws support is.

On 9/15/2020 6:37 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura



Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Using Windows 10, if you type in hyper terminal in the search box under start, you are taken to a list of settings one of which is 'enable legacy software.'  By default, it is unchecked.  I did not check the box to see what becomes available.  Maybe some brave soul can do this and hopefully your system won't hang.

On 9/15/2020 9:03 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
As recently as five years ago I was using minicom to transfer files to a braille lite. Back in the xp days I was using a program called hyperterminal. I believe putty or kitty can also do this, though I don't know how to use those programs to communicate over serial. Only ssh.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:32:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used
Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used
to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's
proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm,
Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a
Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal
program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up
my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura








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Frank Ventura
 

Apparently Hyper Terminal lives on. It is now a Windows 10 compatible commercial program available for $65.
Frank Ventura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:03 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

As recently as five years ago I was using minicom to transfer files to a braille lite. Back in the xp days I was using a program called hyperterminal. I believe putty or kitty can also do this, though I don't know how to use those programs to communicate over serial. Only ssh.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:32:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a
used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could
be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside
from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs
such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be
reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find
an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel
motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura










Frank Ventura
 

This is where you can get Hyper Terminal for Windows 10. There is even a version that supports scripting:
https://www.hilgraeve.com/

Frank Ventura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Here is a correction. It was a long time ago, but I just remembered that I didn't use the hyperterminal program in XP. I don't know how easy it was to use but I started out using the Hyperterminal in Windows 95 and 98, which are very different in terms of interface. I seem to recall that Hyperterminal in XP is a command line program and I didn't want to fool around with it since the Windows 95 and 98 version was so easy to use, having a Windows interface. So the forum discussion I provided may not be useful.

There was some sort of security problem with the Windows 95/98 hyperterminal but it doesn't matter for how you are going to use it.

I placed the Windows 95/98 program on my XP machine and used it but I don't know if it runs in Windows 7 and higher.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now. I used to use it in XP for transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program may have changed since then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program
and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to
be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were
simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can
give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a
Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for
serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura








Gene
 

I don't know if it means anything but when using Brave and Chrome, both more or less the same browser, I get a security message that the certificate is invalid. I don't know if it matters. Firefox shows no such message. Does that mean anything concerning how safe the browsers are in this respect if a site has an expired certificate?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This is where you can get Hyper Terminal for Windows 10. There is even a version that supports scripting:
https://www.hilgraeve.com/

Frank Ventura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Here is a correction. It was a long time ago, but I just remembered that I didn't use the hyperterminal program in XP. I don't know how easy it was to use but I started out using the Hyperterminal in Windows 95 and 98, which are very different in terms of interface. I seem to recall that Hyperterminal in XP is a command line program and I didn't want to fool around with it since the Windows 95 and 98 version was so easy to use, having a Windows interface. So the forum discussion I provided may not be useful.

There was some sort of security problem with the Windows 95/98 hyperterminal but it doesn't matter for how you are going to use it.

I placed the Windows 95/98 program on my XP machine and used it but I don't know if it runs in Windows 7 and higher.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now. I used to use it in XP for transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program may have changed since then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program
and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to
be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were
simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can
give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a
Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for
serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura








Norman
 

Interesting. I don't get this certificate error if using brave.

I wonder what the error is? If you click advanced is there an error message?

On 9/15/2020 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if it means anything but when using Brave and Chrome, both more or less the same browser, I get a security message that the certificate is invalid.  I don't know if it matters.  Firefox shows no such message.  Does that mean anything concerning how safe the browsers are in this respect if a site has an expired certificate?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This is where you can get Hyper Terminal for Windows 10. There is even a version that supports scripting:
https://www.hilgraeve.com/

Frank Ventura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Here is a correction.  It was a long time ago, but I just remembered that I didn't use the hyperterminal program in XP.  I don't know how easy it was to use but I started out using the Hyperterminal in Windows 95 and 98, which are very different in terms of interface.  I seem to recall that Hyperterminal in XP is a command line program and I didn't want to fool around with it since the Windows 95 and 98 version was so easy to use, having a Windows interface.  So the forum discussion I provided may not be useful.

There was some sort of security problem with the Windows 95/98 hyperterminal but it doesn't matter for how you are going to use it.

I placed the Windows 95/98 program on my XP machine and used it but I don't know if it runs in Windows 7 and higher.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now.  I used to use it in XP for transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program may have changed since then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program
and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to
be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were
simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can
give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a
Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for
serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura

















Gene
 

I didn't look at the advanced section. I went to the page again and here is one line:
NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Norman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Interesting. I don't get this certificate error if using brave.

I wonder what the error is? If you click advanced is there an error message?


On 9/15/2020 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if it means anything but when using Brave and Chrome, both more or less the same browser, I get a security message that the certificate is invalid. I don't know if it matters. Firefox shows no such message. Does that mean anything concerning how safe the browsers are in this respect if a site has an expired certificate?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This is where you can get Hyper Terminal for Windows 10. There is even a version that supports scripting:
https://www.hilgraeve.com/

Frank Ventura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Here is a correction. It was a long time ago, but I just remembered that I didn't use the hyperterminal program in XP. I don't know how easy it was to use but I started out using the Hyperterminal in Windows 95 and 98, which are very different in terms of interface. I seem to recall that Hyperterminal in XP is a command line program and I didn't want to fool around with it since the Windows 95 and 98 version was so easy to use, having a Windows interface. So the forum discussion I provided may not be useful.

There was some sort of security problem with the Windows 95/98 hyperterminal but it doesn't matter for how you are going to use it.

I placed the Windows 95/98 program on my XP machine and used it but I don't know if it runs in Windows 7 and higher.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now. I used to use it in XP for transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program may have changed since then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program
and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to
be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were
simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can
give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a
Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for
serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura


















Norman
 

Hi.

That line along with the fact that i didn't get an error when visiting the page makes me think that maybe the windows certificate store is out of date. Have you run updates lately?

It would also explain the fact that firefox works for you because firefox uses its own cert store and doesn't need the windows certs.

For anyone else, the site should be safe to visit.

The below link is one possible explaination of why this isn't working for you, It very much depends on the updates you may or may not have done.

https://sectigo.com/resource-library/may-30-addtrust-root-expiration-explained


Thanks.

On 9/15/2020 8:58 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn't look at the advanced section.  I went to the page again and here is one line:
NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Norman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Interesting. I don't get this certificate error if using brave.

I wonder what the error is? If you click advanced is there an error message?


On 9/15/2020 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if it means anything but when using Brave and Chrome, both more or less the same browser, I get a security message that the certificate is invalid.  I don't know if it matters.  Firefox shows no such message.  Does that mean anything concerning how safe the browsers are in this respect if a site has an expired certificate?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This is where you can get Hyper Terminal for Windows 10. There is even a version that supports scripting:
https://www.hilgraeve.com/

Frank Ventura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Here is a correction.  It was a long time ago, but I just remembered that I didn't use the hyperterminal program in XP.  I don't know how easy it was to use but I started out using the Hyperterminal in Windows 95 and 98, which are very different in terms of interface.  I seem to recall that Hyperterminal in XP is a command line program and I didn't want to fool around with it since the Windows 95 and 98 version was so easy to use, having a Windows interface.  So the forum discussion I provided may not be useful.

There was some sort of security problem with the Windows 95/98 hyperterminal but it doesn't matter for how you are going to use it.

I placed the Windows 95/98 program on my XP machine and used it but I don't know if it runs in Windows 7 and higher.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now.  I used to use it in XP for transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program may have changed since then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program
and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to
be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were
simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can
give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a
Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for
serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura























Gene
 

That explains it. For a long time, I almost never used this Windows 7 machine online and I haven't updated it now that I'm using it online.

I had thought that browsers automatically updated CERT information but from your answer and the little I read since reading yours, I see that that isn't true for some or many browsers.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Norman
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 4:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi.

That line along with the fact that i didn't get an error when visiting
the page makes me think that maybe the windows certificate store is out
of date. Have you run updates lately?

It would also explain the fact that firefox works for you because
firefox uses its own cert store and doesn't need the windows certs.

For anyone else, the site should be safe to visit.

The below link is one possible explaination of why this isn't working
for you, It very much depends on the updates you may or may not have done.

https://sectigo.com/resource-library/may-30-addtrust-root-expiration-explained


Thanks.



On 9/15/2020 8:58 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn't look at the advanced section. I went to the page again and here is one line:
NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Norman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:06 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Interesting. I don't get this certificate error if using brave.

I wonder what the error is? If you click advanced is there an error message?


On 9/15/2020 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if it means anything but when using Brave and Chrome, both more or less the same browser, I get a security message that the certificate is invalid. I don't know if it matters. Firefox shows no such message. Does that mean anything concerning how safe the browsers are in this respect if a site has an expired certificate?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This is where you can get Hyper Terminal for Windows 10. There is even a version that supports scripting:
https://www.hilgraeve.com/

Frank Ventura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Here is a correction. It was a long time ago, but I just remembered that I didn't use the hyperterminal program in XP. I don't know how easy it was to use but I started out using the Hyperterminal in Windows 95 and 98, which are very different in terms of interface. I seem to recall that Hyperterminal in XP is a command line program and I didn't want to fool around with it since the Windows 95 and 98 version was so easy to use, having a Windows interface. So the forum discussion I provided may not be useful.

There was some sort of security problem with the Windows 95/98 hyperterminal but it doesn't matter for how you are going to use it.

I placed the Windows 95/98 program on my XP machine and used it but I don't know if it runs in Windows 7 and higher.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

This discussion may be helpful.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/hyperterminal-windows-10/b91760c3-86ac-47bb-abfa-2bf0b01aa9b7
I don't know what Hyperterminal is like now. I used to use it in XP for transfering files from a Braille 'N Speak but I don't know how the program may have changed since then.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Rick, thanks for this info. Someone on a Facebook group acquired a used Blazie Engineering Type 'n Speak and was asking about what could be used to facilitate file transfers to and from the device. Aside from Blazie's proprietary software many of us used terminal programs such as Procomm, Telix and Commo but these likely wouldn't be reasonable options in a Windows 10 environment. I was hoping to find an accessible terminal program to recommend to her. If I feel motivated to do it I may fire up my Bns or Braille Lite to see if Terraterm can communicate with it.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/15/2020 8:16 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote:
Frank, a while back I ran across the need to use a terminal program
and looked at a few of them. The most accessible one to me seemed to
be Tera Term which is the one I used for that project. My needs were
simple so my knowledge of the program is quite shallow but you can
give it a try and see if it works for you. I don't have the link but a
Google search will find it.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible terminal program

Hi all, can anyone recommend the most accessible terminal program for
serial communications?
Thanks
Frank Ventura