Amazon Accessibility.
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Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I haven’t for a long time, but I used to be able to find stuff on Amazon Accessibility. I was never confident to try to order, but I could get someone else to. Also, I have found things at Target, then gone to the store and gotten what I found on the web site.
I've been totally blind from birth and it was a bit difficult to put items in my cart when buying from amazon but it is possible. You double click for windows users the dollar amount of the item then what I did was to get to the check out button and hit that. Get the quantity set then tab over to place order and that worked. That's how I have an amazon fire tablet a bluetooth keyboard a bluetooth headset and other items I bought from amazon. That really ought to get a tutorial put together so people can do this easier.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Marda wrote:
> And Amazon is supposed to be concerned about accessibility. they have > a blind guy working there in their accessibility department. I read an > article about him. His name is Joshua Miel. (Don't know if that last > name is spelled > right.) I don't do a lot of ordering from amazon so didn't know there > were a lot of accessibility issues except i have heard that sometimes > some people have needed help where they'll have to get someone to put > the items in their cart which is unfortunate. I have heard of other > sites too that have versions of the site that are supposed to be more > accessible but often they have fewer features and I agree that's not > right. So if you are dissatisfied with amazon's services i guess you'll have to get a lawyer and launch a lawsuit. > Good luck. > > Marda > > On 11/18/2022 6:10 PM, Gene Warner wrote: > > Yeah, Amazon is attempting to do the same thing by telling screen > > reader users that they should go to this more accessible version of > > their site. The problem is that even this supposedly accessible site > > has accessibility problems, not to mention that a lot of features > > and services that are available on their main site are not available on their accessible site. > > > > And here I thought that segregation was banned or made illegal in the US. > > > > Maybe somebody needs to remind Amazon of that little factoid, or > > better yet, somebody needs to sue Amazon for discrimination. > > > > Gene... > > > > > > On 11/18/2022 7:04 PM, Marda wrote: > >> Well I never did like domino's pizza much but if they actually do > >> change and make things accessible I cwould consider patronizing > >> them as a reward for their changing. I went online to Little > >> Caesar's pizza last week because there is one near our house and > >> their website wasn't accessible but I found that they are doing > >> what domino's did they are giving a phone number to call and saying > >> if you're having difficulty because you're using a screen reader > >> then call this certain number. Well I would consider doing that if > >> they were in the process of making their site more accessible but I > >> don't know what the situation is and I don't think they should > >> provide the number without working to make the website accessible > >> as well. I have noticed similar problems with some other local > >> restaurants. A phone number is all right but you can't peruse a > >> menu and think about your choices like you can on a website and so > >> it's not the same level of qaccessibility. It's almost like they're > >> saying ok you can have access but it's not at the same level. It's > >> sort of like the old "separate but equal" thing in education of > >> black people in the south in the US. They had segragated schools > >> at one point, even when I was a child. Often the schools for the > >> African Americans were inferior. They got less money, less > >> qualified staff and so on. Some of these companies are doing similar things to people with disabilities, like us blind people, by providing a level of accessibility that is different. It's really not equal. > >> > >> Marda > >> > >> On 11/18/2022 5:35 PM, Gene Warner wrote: > >>> Like Dominoes Pizza, they actually went to court seeking to be > >>> exempt from ever having to make their web site accessible. Because > >>> of that I will never patronize them. > >>> > >>> Gene... > >>> > >>> > >>> On 11/18/2022 6:28 PM, Marda wrote: > >>>> Yes I had forgotten about that. I shouldn't have though because > >>>> last week I got very annoyed because there was a person in our > >>>> church who uses a wheelchair and the doors in the rest rooms > >>>> aren't big enough for her chair. So she asked about if the > >>>> church would do anything about making their buildings more > >>>> accessible. She was told that the church didn't have the money > >>>> right now. Well given our church's financial situation I > >>>> understand that. But what annoyed me was that the person then > >>>> pointed out that because the church had been built before ADA > >>>> they had been grandfathered in and legally weren't required to > >>>> make their facilities accessible. That to me is like a slap in > >>>> the face to a person who needs accommodations. It is not going > >>>> to be very welcoming to a prospective new attendee or member > >>>> either. It's one thing to say right now we don't have the money > >>>> but when we get the money we will do it or whatever but I don't > >>>> know. I know about places that were exempt from accessibility > >>>> regulations because they are old and/or historic places and I > >>>> know about the law that says ADA doesn'thave to apply if it would > >>>> fundamentally alter a program. I know there are times when we > >>>> have to be realistic and deal with the fact that some things just > >>>> aren't accessible. But it's almost like some people are either > >>>> proud of the fact that they don't have to deal with the > >>>> accessibility laws or they just are very defensive or just don't care. For people like that I hope they are someday in a position where they will need accessibility services or someone close to them will and then maybe they'll have a little more empathy. > >>>> > >>>> Marda > >>>> > >>>> On 11/18/2022 2:07 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >>>>> The A.D.A. does cover private homes. Code has A.D.A. > >>>>> requirements in it for new homes. Homes get built for people with disabilities with A.D.A. > >>>>> ramps and other internal accommodations. These could not be > >>>>> built at all without supporting regulations in those building > >>>>> codes. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be > >>>>> used in defense of liberty: > >>>>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > >>>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > >>>>> > >>>>> . > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> As far as I know the ADA primarily concerns public spaces. If > >>>>>> that's true it doesn't reach into private homes so home > >>>>>> appliances aren't covered. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The only thing I've heard about home devices is that there is > >>>>>> legislation that if passed will require manufacturers of > >>>>>> medical devices intended for home use, like CPAP machines > >>>>>> design them to be fully accessible. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gene... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 11/18/2022 2:54 PM, Marda wrote: > >>>>>>> Yes that is a problem with Hamilton Beach which is a shame > >>>>>>> because they used to make that really nice talking microwave > >>>>>>> that I still have but they discontinued it. I heard there > >>>>>>> were problems with it just stopping operation and that a lot > >>>>>>> of people had problems with it but the one I've had has worked > >>>>>>> for many years and I know others who had similar experiences. > >>>>>>> I wonder if something happened where someone with a disability > >>>>>>> sued them or something or if they are just being overly > >>>>>>> cautious. It seems like legally people should be able to > >>>>>>> challenge that and require them to remove that statement or in > >>>>>>> other ways make their appliances more accessible but I don't > >>>>>>> know enough about the entirety of the ADA and later amendments > >>>>>>> to know if that area is even addressed since mostly what I've > >>>>>>> heard about ADA access laws deals with education, employment, > >>>>>>> transportation, communications etc. > >>>>>>> but I've never heard kitchen appliances addressed directly as > >>>>>>> far as laws are concerned. It seems like they may not be > >>>>>>> because there are certainly tons of appliances around that are > >>>>>>> not very easily accessible. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Marda > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 11/18/2022 1:30 PM, Gene Warner wrote: > >>>>>>>> Last time I checked, Hamilton Beach makes a lot of different > >>>>>>>> types of coffee makers, so you'll have to be more specific to be of any help. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Plus Hamilton Beach intentionally excludes the visually > >>>>>>>> impaired (among > >>>>>>>> others) when they design their products as evidenced by this > >>>>>>>> statement being in all of their product manuals. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "This appliance is not intended for use by persons (including > >>>>>>>> children) > >>>>>>>> with reduced physical, sensory, or mental capabilities" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So I will not buy any of their products. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gene... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 11/18/2022 1:51 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are > >>>>>>>>> definitely accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and > >>>>>>>>> top button is weaker coffee. > >>>>>>>>> Nance > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner > >>>>>>>>> <genewarner3@... <mailto:genewarner3@...>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the > >>>>>>>>> ones that have > >>>>>>>>> touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup > >>>>>>>>> coffee maker that > >>>>>>>>> is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The > >>>>>>>>> one I have > >>>>>>>>> right > >>>>>>>>> now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make > >>>>>>>>> stronger > >>>>>>>>> coffee if > >>>>>>>>> its grounds cup was bigger. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and > >>>>>>>>> K-cups can only brew > >>>>>>>>> about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be > >>>>>>>>> able to brew > >>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>> 14 ounces to fill a travel mug. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>>>>>> Gene... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - > >>>>>>>>> Michael Reid-- > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> . > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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