Coffee makers?


Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...


Jude DaShiell
 

I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need to
replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through but
that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes makes
excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over coffee but
these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have touch
screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind
friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes
coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds cup
was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew about
six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14 ounces
to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...







Gene
 

The list doesn't restrict tech to computer technology.  All sorts of things such as slates and Braille writers or vacuum cleaners, etc. are technology.

Gene, one of the owners

On 11/18/2022 12:11 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...




Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.

Gene...

On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need to
replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through but
that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes makes
excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over coffee but
these are all low tech.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have touch
screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind
friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes
coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds cup
was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew about
six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14 ounces
to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...







Monte Single
 

Hi Gene,

I use a 24 oz Kenmore drip coffee maker with a reusable screen basket.

Personally, I think the French press is an excellent choice interms of flavour and environmental choices.
It is totally simple.
Put in the coffee,
Pour in the boiling water,
Wait the appropriate time and gently press down the screen plunger.
The oly thing you throw away are the grounds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: November 18, 2022 12:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Coffee makers?

I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need
to replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through
but that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes
makes excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over
coffee but these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that
have touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee
maker that is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The
one I have right now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could
make stronger coffee if its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only
brew about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to
brew about 14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...










Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

That's all I throw away now, my coffee maker has a reusable filter.

Gene...

On 11/18/2022 1:30 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Hi Gene,
I use a 24 oz Kenmore drip coffee maker with a reusable screen basket.
Personally, I think the French press is an excellent choice interms of flavour and environmental choices.
It is totally simple.
Put in the coffee,
Pour in the boiling water,
Wait the appropriate time and gently press down the screen plunger.
The oly thing you throw away are the grounds.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: November 18, 2022 12:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Coffee makers?
I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.
Gene...
On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need
to replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through
but that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes
makes excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over
coffee but these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that
have touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee
maker that is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The
one I have right now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could
make stronger coffee if its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only
brew about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to
brew about 14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...










Jude DaShiell
 

Computers are lots more involved to use.
For my size press I put 1/3 cup of grounds in the bottom of the press the
smaller ones only need 1/4 cup of grounds.
I get water boiling in a teapot and wait a minute after the teapot shuts
off so the water gets to 195F or 95C. Then I pour to within 1 inch of the
top of the press. I put a spoon into the press and stir the water and
grounds for a minute. Then I put the top on the press but do not push the
plunger down and let the press set for 20 minutes. Then I push the
plunger all the way down to the bottom and pour into the thermos until no
more coffee comes out. I close the thermos up and pull the top out of the
french press and run the screen end under cold water for a few seconds so
when I hold the top of the press the water makes the screen end spin. I
think an angle of 45 degrees will do it. That cleans the grounds off the
screen in a few seconds. Then I put water into the press again about
halfway up. I take the press outside and suspend the grounds with my
finger in the bottom of the press then I toss the contents of the press on
the ground. The earthworms are just as much cafiene addicts as people and
it makes them very happy. They eat the grounds after taking them
underground and that improves the soil for gardening. Then I wash the
press out and let it dry for the next time I make coffee.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only
reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need to
replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through but
that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes makes
excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over coffee but
these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
touch
screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind
friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes
coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds
cup
was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
about
six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14
ounces
to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...














Jude DaShiell
 

Stirring the grounds around in the water makes much better coffee. I was
told this by a friend born in Egypt who is now in the United States and I
confirmed it. My friend didn't know about my screen cleaning technique so
I shared that with him.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Monte Single wrote:

Hi Gene,

I use a 24 oz Kenmore drip coffee maker with a reusable screen basket.

Personally, I think the French press is an excellent choice interms of flavour and environmental choices.
It is totally simple.
Put in the coffee,
Pour in the boiling water,
Wait the appropriate time and gently press down the screen plunger.
The oly thing you throw away are the grounds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: November 18, 2022 12:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Coffee makers?

I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need
to replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through
but that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes
makes excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over
coffee but these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that
have touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee
maker that is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The
one I have right now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could
make stronger coffee if its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only
brew about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to
brew about 14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...




















Nancy Shackelford
 

Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are definitely accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and top button is weaker coffee.
Nance

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner <genewarner3@...> wrote:
Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that
is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right
now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if
its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about
14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...







--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I bought a Mainstay from Wal-Mart for just under $20 - just love the thing. You can either use K Cups or you can use a different holder for grounds and use grounds - way cheaper and as good or better! I give the thing a five star plus rating and highly recommend it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 1:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Coffee makers?

I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need
to replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through
but that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes
makes excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over
coffee but these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that
have touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee
maker that is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The
one I have right now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could
make stronger coffee if its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only
brew about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to
brew about 14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...










Gerald Levy
 


This French press gadget may brew a great cup of coffee, but it sounds very involved and time consuming. If ease of use, and convenience are what you are looking for, consider the Mainstay Dual Brew Single Serve Coffee Maker, which is sold by WalMart for $19.92.  According to members of this and other lists, it is completely accessible, having only two bushbuttons on the right side for selecting either K-cups (rear button) or regular ground coffee (front button):


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Single-Serve-Dual-Brew-Coffee-Black/772125593



Gerald



On 11/18/2022 1:35 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Computers are lots more involved to use.
For my size press I put 1/3 cup of grounds in the bottom of the press the
smaller ones only need 1/4 cup of grounds.
I get water boiling in a teapot and wait a minute after the teapot shuts
off so the water gets to 195F or 95C.  Then I pour to within 1 inch of the
top of the press.  I put a spoon into the press and stir the water and
grounds for a minute.  Then I put the top on the press but do not push the
plunger down and let the press set for 20 minutes.  Then I push the
plunger all the way down to the bottom and pour into the thermos until no
more coffee comes out.  I close the thermos up and pull the top out of the
french press and run the screen end under cold water for a few seconds so
when I hold the top of the press the water makes the screen end spin.  I
think an angle of 45 degrees will do it.  That cleans the grounds off the
screen in a few seconds.  Then I put water into the press again about
halfway up.  I take the press outside and suspend the grounds with my
finger in the bottom of the press then I toss the contents of the press on
the ground.  The earthworms are just as much cafiene addicts as people and
it makes them very happy.  They eat the grounds after taking them
underground and that improves the soil for gardening.  Then I wash the
press out and let it dry for the next time I make coffee.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only
reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee.  I will need to
replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through but
that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes makes
excellent coffee here.  Another possibility might be pour over coffee but
these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
touch
screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind
friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes
coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds
cup
was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
about
six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14
ounces
to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...





















Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

Last time I checked, Hamilton Beach makes a lot of different types of coffee makers, so you'll have to be more specific to be of any help.

Plus Hamilton Beach intentionally excludes the visually impaired (among others) when they design their products as evidenced by this statement being in all of their product manuals.

"This appliance is not intended for use by persons (including children) with reduced physical, sensory, or mental capabilities"

So I will not buy any of their products.

Gene...

On 11/18/2022 1:51 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are definitely accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and top button is weaker coffee.
Nance
On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner <genewarner3@... <mailto:genewarner3@...>> wrote:
Hi everyone!
This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that
is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have
right
now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger
coffee if
its grounds cup was bigger.
I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew
about
14 ounces to fill a travel mug.
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Thanks!
Gene...
--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

Is this a single cup coffee maker? I only drink one or two cups of coffee each day so I don't need or want a coffee maker that fills an entire carafe or pot because most of it would be wasted.

Gene...

On 11/18/2022 1:59 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I bought a Mainstay from Wal-Mart for just under $20 - just love the thing. You can either use K Cups or you can use a different holder for grounds and use grounds - way cheaper and as good or better! I give the thing a five star plus rating and highly recommend it.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2022 1:23 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Coffee makers?
I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.
Gene...
On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need
to replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through
but that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes
makes excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over
coffee but these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that
have touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee
maker that is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The
one I have right now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could
make stronger coffee if its grounds cup was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only
brew about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to
brew about 14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...










Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

That sounds like it might be ideal, simplicity is what I am looking for, I don't want to spend half an hour making a single cup of coffee.

And since I do my grocery shopping online at Wally world, I can order the coffee maker with my groceries.

I used to have a Black & Decker single cup coffee maker that I really liked that was even simpler, it only had one button. But it worried me about its safety when the plastic that made up the reusable filter and funnel started "bubbling" up from the hot water, so I got rid of it real quick.

Gene...

On 11/18/2022 2:13 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:
This French press gadget may brew a great cup of coffee, but it sounds very involved and time consuming. If ease of use, and convenience are what you are looking for, consider the Mainstay Dual Brew Single Serve Coffee Maker, which is sold by WalMart for $19.92. According to members of this and other lists, it is completely accessible, having only two bushbuttons on the right side for selecting either K-cups (rear button) or regular ground coffee (front button):
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Single-Serve-Dual-Brew-Coffee-Black/772125593
Gerald
On 11/18/2022 1:35 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
Computers are lots more involved to use.
For my size press I put 1/3 cup of grounds in the bottom of the press the
smaller ones only need 1/4 cup of grounds.
I get water boiling in a teapot and wait a minute after the teapot shuts
off so the water gets to 195F or 95C. Then I pour to within 1 inch of the
top of the press. I put a spoon into the press and stir the water and
grounds for a minute. Then I put the top on the press but do not push the
plunger down and let the press set for 20 minutes. Then I push the
plunger all the way down to the bottom and pour into the thermos until no
more coffee comes out. I close the thermos up and pull the top out of the
french press and run the screen end under cold water for a few seconds so
when I hold the top of the press the water makes the screen end spin. I
think an angle of 45 degrees will do it. That cleans the grounds off the
screen in a few seconds. Then I put water into the press again about
halfway up. I take the press outside and suspend the grounds with my
finger in the bottom of the press then I toss the contents of the press on
the ground. The earthworms are just as much cafiene addicts as people and
it makes them very happy. They eat the grounds after taking them
underground and that improves the soil for gardening. Then I wash the
press out and let it dry for the next time I make coffee.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only
reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee. I will need to
replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through but
that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes makes
excellent coffee here. Another possibility might be pour over coffee but
these are all low tech.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
touch
screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind
friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes
coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds
cup
was bigger.

I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
about
six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14
ounces
to fill a travel mug.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
Gene...











Marda
 

Yes that is a problem with Hamilton Beach which is a shame because they used to make that really nice talking microwave that I still have but they discontinued it.  I heard there were problems with it just stopping operation and that a lot of people had problems with it but the one I've had has worked for many years and I know others who had similar experiences.  I wonder if something happened where someone with a disability sued them or something or if they are just being overly cautious.  It seems like legally people should be able to challenge that and require them to remove that statement or in other ways make their appliances more accessible but I don't know enough about the entirety of the ADA and later amendments to know if that area is even addressed since mostly what I've heard about ADA access laws deals with education, employment, transportation, communications etc. but I've never heard kitchen appliances addressed directly as far as laws are concerned.  It seems like they may not be because there are certainly tons of appliances around that are not very easily accessible.

Marda

On 11/18/2022 1:30 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Last time I checked, Hamilton Beach makes a lot of different types of coffee makers, so you'll have to be more specific to be of any help.

Plus Hamilton Beach intentionally excludes the visually impaired (among others) when they design their products as evidenced by this statement being in all of their product manuals.

"This appliance is not intended for use by persons (including children) with reduced physical, sensory, or mental  capabilities"

So I will not buy any of their products.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:51 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are definitely accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and top button is weaker coffee.
Nance

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner <genewarner3@... <mailto:genewarner3@...>> wrote:

    Hi everyone!

    This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
    touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that
    is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have
    right
    now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger
    coffee if
    its grounds cup was bigger.

    I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
    about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew
    about
    14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

    Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks!
    Gene...







--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--



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Jude DaShiell
 

Kitchen appliances are covered under ADA because microwaves are universal
in offices so they're also office equipment.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

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On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Marda wrote:

Yes that is a problem with Hamilton Beach which is a shame because they used
to make that really nice talking microwave that I still have but they
discontinued it.  I heard there were problems with it just stopping operation
and that a lot of people had problems with it but the one I've had has worked
for many years and I know others who had similar experiences.  I wonder if
something happened where someone with a disability sued them or something or
if they are just being overly cautious.  It seems like legally people should
be able to challenge that and require them to remove that statement or in
other ways make their appliances more accessible but I don't know enough about
the entirety of the ADA and later amendments to know if that area is even
addressed since mostly what I've heard about ADA access laws deals with
education, employment, transportation, communications etc. but I've never
heard kitchen appliances addressed directly as far as laws are concerned.  It
seems like they may not be because there are certainly tons of appliances
around that are not very easily accessible.

Marda

On 11/18/2022 1:30 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Last time I checked, Hamilton Beach makes a lot of different types of coffee
makers, so you'll have to be more specific to be of any help.

Plus Hamilton Beach intentionally excludes the visually impaired (among
others) when they design their products as evidenced by this statement being
in all of their product manuals.

"This appliance is not intended for use by persons (including children) with
reduced physical, sensory, or mental  capabilities"

So I will not buy any of their products.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:51 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are definitely
accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and top button is weaker
coffee.
Nance

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner <genewarner3@...
<mailto:genewarner3@...>> wrote:

    Hi everyone!

    This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
    touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that
    is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have
    right
    now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger
    coffee if
    its grounds cup was bigger.

    I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
    about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew
    about
    14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

    Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks!
    Gene...







--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--




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Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

As far as I know the ADA primarily concerns public spaces. If that's true it doesn't reach into private homes so home appliances aren't covered.

The only thing I've heard about home devices is that there is legislation that if passed will require manufacturers of medical devices intended for home use, like CPAP machines design them to be fully accessible.

Gene...

On 11/18/2022 2:54 PM, Marda wrote:
Yes that is a problem with Hamilton Beach which is a shame because they used to make that really nice talking microwave that I still have but they discontinued it.  I heard there were problems with it just stopping operation and that a lot of people had problems with it but the one I've had has worked for many years and I know others who had similar experiences.  I wonder if something happened where someone with a disability sued them or something or if they are just being overly cautious.  It seems like legally people should be able to challenge that and require them to remove that statement or in other ways make their appliances more accessible but I don't know enough about the entirety of the ADA and later amendments to know if that area is even addressed since mostly what I've heard about ADA access laws deals with education, employment, transportation, communications etc. but I've never heard kitchen appliances addressed directly as far as laws are concerned.  It seems like they may not be because there are certainly tons of appliances around that are not very easily accessible.
Marda
On 11/18/2022 1:30 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Last time I checked, Hamilton Beach makes a lot of different types of coffee makers, so you'll have to be more specific to be of any help.

Plus Hamilton Beach intentionally excludes the visually impaired (among others) when they design their products as evidenced by this statement being in all of their product manuals.

"This appliance is not intended for use by persons (including children) with reduced physical, sensory, or mental  capabilities"

So I will not buy any of their products.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:51 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are definitely accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and top button is weaker coffee.
Nance

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner <genewarner3@... <mailto:genewarner3@...>> wrote:

    Hi everyone!

    This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
    touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that
    is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have
    right
    now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger
    coffee if
    its grounds cup was bigger.

    I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
    about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew
    about
    14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

    Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks!
    Gene...







--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--




.


Jude DaShiell
 

The A.D.A. does cover private homes. Code has A.D.A. requirements in it
for new homes. Homes get built for people with disabilities with A.D.A.
ramps and other internal accommodations. These could not be built at all
without supporting regulations in those building codes.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:

As far as I know the ADA primarily concerns public spaces. If that's true it
doesn't reach into private homes so home appliances aren't covered.

The only thing I've heard about home devices is that there is legislation that
if passed will require manufacturers of medical devices intended for home use,
like CPAP machines design them to be fully accessible.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 2:54 PM, Marda wrote:
Yes that is a problem with Hamilton Beach which is a shame because they used
to make that really nice talking microwave that I still have but they
discontinued it.  I heard there were problems with it just stopping
operation and that a lot of people had problems with it but the one I've had
has worked for many years and I know others who had similar experiences.  I
wonder if something happened where someone with a disability sued them or
something or if they are just being overly cautious.  It seems like legally
people should be able to challenge that and require them to remove that
statement or in other ways make their appliances more accessible but I don't
know enough about the entirety of the ADA and later amendments to know if
that area is even addressed since mostly what I've heard about ADA access
laws deals with education, employment, transportation, communications etc.
but I've never heard kitchen appliances addressed directly as far as laws
are concerned.  It seems like they may not be because there are certainly
tons of appliances around that are not very easily accessible.

Marda

On 11/18/2022 1:30 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Last time I checked, Hamilton Beach makes a lot of different types of
coffee makers, so you'll have to be more specific to be of any help.

Plus Hamilton Beach intentionally excludes the visually impaired (among
others) when they design their products as evidenced by this statement
being in all of their product manuals.

"This appliance is not intended for use by persons (including children)
with reduced physical, sensory, or mental  capabilities"

So I will not buy any of their products.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:51 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are definitely
accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and top button is weaker
coffee.
Nance

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner <genewarner3@...
<mailto:genewarner3@...>> wrote:

    Hi everyone!

    This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
    touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that
    is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have
    right
    now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger
    coffee if
    its grounds cup was bigger.

    I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only
brew
    about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew
    about
    14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

    Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks!
    Gene...







--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--




.








Gene Warner <genewarner3@...>
 

If that's true, then how come accessible microwaves are few and far between?

And most offices I know of have a coffee maker in them, how come there are no accessible coffee makers?

I think you need to double check your facts.

The FCC ppassed the CVAA and now most brands of video equipment, TVs, stream players DVRs, etc., have at least one accessible model.

Gene...

Gene...

On 11/18/2022 2:57 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
Kitchen appliances are covered under ADA because microwaves are universal
in offices so they're also office equipment.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Marda wrote:

Yes that is a problem with Hamilton Beach which is a shame because they used
to make that really nice talking microwave that I still have but they
discontinued it.  I heard there were problems with it just stopping operation
and that a lot of people had problems with it but the one I've had has worked
for many years and I know others who had similar experiences.  I wonder if
something happened where someone with a disability sued them or something or
if they are just being overly cautious.  It seems like legally people should
be able to challenge that and require them to remove that statement or in
other ways make their appliances more accessible but I don't know enough about
the entirety of the ADA and later amendments to know if that area is even
addressed since mostly what I've heard about ADA access laws deals with
education, employment, transportation, communications etc. but I've never
heard kitchen appliances addressed directly as far as laws are concerned.  It
seems like they may not be because there are certainly tons of appliances
around that are not very easily accessible.

Marda

On 11/18/2022 1:30 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
Last time I checked, Hamilton Beach makes a lot of different types of coffee
makers, so you'll have to be more specific to be of any help.

Plus Hamilton Beach intentionally excludes the visually impaired (among
others) when they design their products as evidenced by this statement being
in all of their product manuals.

"This appliance is not intended for use by persons (including children) with
reduced physical, sensory, or mental  capabilities"

So I will not buy any of their products.

Gene...


On 11/18/2022 1:51 PM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
Hamilton Beach! There are 2 different models, but both are definitely
accessible. Bottom button is stronger coffee and top button is weaker
coffee.
Nance

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:11 PM Gene Warner <genewarner3@...
<mailto:genewarner3@...>> wrote:

    Hi everyone!

    This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
    touch screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that
    is blind friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have
    right
    now makes coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger
    coffee if
    its grounds cup was bigger.

    I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
    about six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew
    about
    14 ounces to fill a travel mug.

    Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks!
    Gene...







--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--




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chris judge
 

Sure it’s true making a cup of coffee in a French press is more involved than using a coffee maker, but the quality of the end product is definitely worth the added inconvenience.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: November 18, 2022 3:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Coffee makers?

 

 

This French press gadget may brew a great cup of coffee, but it sounds very involved and time consuming. If ease of use, and convenience are what you are looking for, consider the Mainstay Dual Brew Single Serve Coffee Maker, which is sold by WalMart for $19.92.  According to members of this and other lists, it is completely accessible, having only two bushbuttons on the right side for selecting either K-cups (rear button) or regular ground coffee (front button):

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Single-Serve-Dual-Brew-Coffee-Black/772125593

 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/18/2022 1:35 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Computers are lots more involved to use.
For my size press I put 1/3 cup of grounds in the bottom of the press the
smaller ones only need 1/4 cup of grounds.
I get water boiling in a teapot and wait a minute after the teapot shuts
off so the water gets to 195F or 95C.  Then I pour to within 1 inch of the
top of the press.  I put a spoon into the press and stir the water and
grounds for a minute.  Then I put the top on the press but do not push the
plunger down and let the press set for 20 minutes.  Then I push the
plunger all the way down to the bottom and pour into the thermos until no
more coffee comes out.  I close the thermos up and pull the top out of the
french press and run the screen end under cold water for a few seconds so
when I hold the top of the press the water makes the screen end spin.  I
think an angle of 45 degrees will do it.  That cleans the grounds off the
screen in a few seconds.  Then I put water into the press again about
halfway up.  I take the press outside and suspend the grounds with my
finger in the bottom of the press then I toss the contents of the press on
the ground.  The earthworms are just as much cafiene addicts as people and
it makes them very happy.  They eat the grounds after taking them
underground and that improves the soil for gardening.  Then I wash the
press out and let it dry for the next time I make coffee.
 
 
 
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
 
.
 
On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:
 
I know several other people that swear by french press coffee makers, the only
reason I've avoided them so far is that it sounds a bit involved to use.
 
Gene...
 
 
On 11/18/2022 1:19 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use a French Press here and it makes excellent coffee.  I will need to
replace the screen since a few too many grounds are getting through but
that and a thermos to hold the coffee once steeped for 20 minutes makes
excellent coffee here.  Another possibility might be pour over coffee but
these are all low tech.
 
 
 
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
 
.
 
On Fri, 18 Nov 2022, Gene Warner wrote:
 
Hi everyone!
 
This is not exactly a tech item unless you consider the ones that have
touch
screens on them. I am looking for a single cup coffee maker that is blind
friendly and makes a decent cup of coffee. The one I have right now makes
coffee that is somewhat weak. It could make stronger coffee if its grounds
cup
was bigger.
 
I don't want K-cups because they are expensive and K-cups can only brew
about
six ounces of coffee per cup and I'd like to be able to brew about 14
ounces
to fill a travel mug.
 
Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
 
Thanks!
Gene...