main@TechTalk.groups.io | Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

James Bentley

#286

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Carlos

#298

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

Show quoted text

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

James Bentley

#304

Awe, so nice to hear your voice again. Has any one ever told you that you sound a lot like Jaws.

But seriously, I am going to try the reset right now.

Thanks for your assistance,

James

Show quoted text

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:33 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Carlos

#307

I have been told that occasionally yes.

Show quoted text

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Awe, so nice to hear your voice again. Has any one ever told you that you sound a lot like Jaws.

But seriously, I am going to try the reset right now.

Thanks for your assistance,

James

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:33 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>

#336

Hi,

It’s more than that: it you do choose to wipe your hard drive, everything (including OEM software) will be removed (I had to do this on my Toshiba laptop a few days ago).

Cheers,

Joseph

Show quoted text

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----
From: James Bentley
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Marie <magpie.mn@...>

#337

Funny, but sometimes you have different accents or even a female voice!!

Marie

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From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:44 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

I have been told that occasionally yes.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Awe, so nice to hear your voice again. Has any one ever told you that you sound a lot like Jaws.

But seriously, I am going to try the reset right now.

Thanks for your assistance,

James

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:33 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Carlos

#341

If I remember correctly though it does specifically depend on the options you choose.

Show quoted text

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:42 AM

Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi,

It’s more than that: it you do choose to wipe your hard drive, everything (including OEM software) will be removed (I had to do this on my Toshiba laptop a few days ago).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Carlos

#344

LOL

Show quoted text

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:45 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Funny, but sometimes you have different accents or even a female voice!!

Marie

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:44 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

I have been told that occasionally yes.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Awe, so nice to hear your voice again. Has any one ever told you that you sound a lot like Jaws.

But seriously, I am going to try the reset right now.

Thanks for your assistance,

James

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:33 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Carlos

#348

This article describes the options for the "Reset" feature in Windows 10. Sorry, I don't currently have 10 installed so I wasn't able to provide this information first hand.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-10-recovery-options

Specifically where it says,

Resetting lets you choose whether to keep your files or remove them, and then reinstalls Windows. To get started, go to Settings > Update & security >
Reset this PC > Get started and choose an option.

Option
What it does

Keep my files

This reinstalls Windows 10, but keeps your personal files and any apps that came with your PC. It removes:

Changes you made to settings

Apps and drivers you installed

Remove everything

This reinstalls Windows 10 and any apps that came with your PC. It removes:

Personal files

Changes you made to settings

Apps and drivers you installed

If you're planning to donate, recycle, or sell your PC, use this option and choose to fully clean the drive. This might take an hour or two, but it makes it harder for other people to recover files you've removed.

Restore factory settings

This reinstalls the version of Windows that came on your PC and any apps that came with it. It removes:

Personal files

Changes you made to settings

Apps and drivers you installed

This option isn't available on all PCs.

Note
• If you reset your PC within a month of your upgrade to Windows 10, the option in Settings that lets you go back to your previous version of Windows
will no longer be available.

James Bentley

#351

My Dell laptop just rebooted. I think it may have rebooted two or three times. It took over one hour to finish.

This time, it appears to have done exactly what I was hoping it would do.

All of the Windows sounds are default now and I don’t see any signs of my old files or settings or Apps.

Windows is working with Narrator just fine. I landed at the windows set up screen where I was able to set up my log in password, country, local account name, password, and password hint. Next, I landed on the desktop.

Oh, I also did get the option to set up my internet but I skipped that step so I can go in to Windows later this afternoon and tell Windows and Dell to not give me any automatic driver downloads. Its kind of neat. My Router and around a dozen others were in a list just waiting for me to hit enter on the right one.

By the way, I was able to go to a thumb drive where I have Jaws. I will do that next...after I grab some sleep.

The main point for me is just that it does appear as though a blind individual can do a reset, and then set up a new commercially available system with out sighted assistance. That’s what I really wanted.

I am not certain yet as to whether I have all of the Dell software on the system or if I only have Windows stuff but it won’t matter too much to me either way. I’m guessing that it is my original system the way that it came to me from Dell.

I need to get some sleep so I will report back to the list later this afternoon in case some one is following this thread but here is a very very, important thing that I need to say right now.

When I clicked on reset, I got two options. One said some thing like delete all files. That is the selection that I chose. It does appear that I now have a fresh Win10 install.

The other option that I was given after clicking on the reset button was to clean all drives. This setting appears to wipe all drives. I am assuming that the C (primary) drive and the D (restoration) drive get wiped. Someone wanting Windows to come back up with Narrator would certainly want to avoid cleaning all drives unless they have a way to install another copy of Windows. So, be careful which button you select or you will get stuck with a completely cleaned nonfunctioning drive.

Carlos, I sure am glad that I didn’t fire you!

James

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From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:48 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

If I remember correctly though it does specifically depend on the options you choose.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:42 AM

Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi,

It’s more than that: it you do choose to wipe your hard drive, everything (including OEM software) will be removed (I had to do this on my Toshiba laptop a few days ago).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

Carlos

#352

Indeed, I would be interested to know if your Dell/OEM included software was restored as well.

Show quoted text

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

My Dell laptop just rebooted. I think it may have rebooted two or three times. It took over one hour to finish.

This time, it appears to have done exactly what I was hoping it would do.

All of the Windows sounds are default now and I don’t see any signs of my old files or settings or Apps.

Windows is working with Narrator just fine. I landed at the windows set up screen where I was able to set up my log in password, country, local account name, password, and password hint. Next, I landed on the desktop.

Oh, I also did get the option to set up my internet but I skipped that step so I can go in to Windows later this afternoon and tell Windows and Dell to not give me any automatic driver downloads. Its kind of neat. My Router and around a dozen others were in a list just waiting for me to hit enter on the right one.

By the way, I was able to go to a thumb drive where I have Jaws. I will do that next...after I grab some sleep.

The main point for me is just that it does appear as though a blind individual can do a reset, and then set up a new commercially available system with out sighted assistance. That’s what I really wanted.

I am not certain yet as to whether I have all of the Dell software on the system or if I only have Windows stuff but it won’t matter too much to me either way. I’m guessing that it is my original system the way that it came to me from Dell.

I need to get some sleep so I will report back to the list later this afternoon in case some one is following this thread but here is a very very, important thing that I need to say right now.

When I clicked on reset, I got two options. One said some thing like delete all files. That is the selection that I chose. It does appear that I now have a fresh Win10 install.

The other option that I was given after clicking on the reset button was to clean all drives. This setting appears to wipe all drives. I am assuming that the C (primary) drive and the D (restoration) drive get wiped. Someone wanting Windows to come back up with Narrator would certainly want to avoid cleaning all drives unless they have a way to install another copy of Windows. So, be careful which button you select or you will get stuck with a completely cleaned nonfunctioning drive.

Carlos, I sure am glad that I didn’t fire you!

James

From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:48 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

If I remember correctly though it does specifically depend on the options you choose.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:42 AM

Subject: RE: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi,

It’s more than that: it you do choose to wipe your hard drive, everything (including OEM software) will be removed (I had to do this on my Toshiba laptop a few days ago).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Resetting is basically like reinstalling Windows. Only software which may have been included by the manufacturer is restored. All settings and other applications will be removed.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Hi Group,

I would have to write a book to explain all that I have gone through with my 6 day old Dell Inspiron11 laptop loaded from Dell with Windows10. So I will try for the condensed version.

I fell in love with the laptop at first touch but, the sound was terrible. Loads of distortion and the volume continually changed itself all by it self. So, I rolled the RealTek drivers back to the prior version and the laptop sounded 100% perfect.

Then, Microsoft updates gave me the newest and latest driver update for the onboard RealTek sound which just happened to be the bad drivers that I had just removed. Suddenly, the sound was all messed up again.

My next attempt to roll back the drivers failed several times. Then, I got MS to do a remote in on the laptop and they install the same older drivers that made the machine sound perfect again.

Carlos told me how to prevent MS from changing my drivers with future Windows updates. And, I did that. So, I spent around 12 hours getting every thing installed on the laptop.

The next day, the sound was back to the same as the day before. It turns out that Dell also sends out driver updates and this time, it was Dell who messed me over. <groan?

I ain’t all that great with even using some features on my computer much less being able to repair it when something goes wrong. And, I have news for both Dell and Microsoft, I can break my computer just fine with out any assistance from them.

Since I had reasons to suspect corrupted files for other reasons that I won’t go in to right now, , I got Dell tech support to remote in and do a Windows reset. I was informed by Dell tech support that the laptop would be in the exact same state as it was the moment that I took it out of the box for the first time. I figured I could keep it off line long enough to set up Jaws, and change the settings to stop Dell and MS from helping themselves with making my computer work better.

But, after the reset that Dell claimed to do, I still had some files that I put on the computer. I still had my log on password, the Jaws authorization key, along with other things including the stupid RealTek drivers that sound so bad. I wonder if the Dell tech support person did an actual reset or maybe just a refresh.

So I went in to Windows and looked at the reset setting because I was considering doing my own reset. And it said that the reset action was the recommended action for user’s to preform before recycling their computers. This causes me to wonder exactly what the Win10 reset function really does.

Now here’s my point. I want one of two things. Either the computer to go back to the exact same state it was in when I booted it up the first time. Or, I would be completely happy with a clean Win10 install with none of the original Dell software.

So, if I am not the first person that Carlos has to kick off of his new list for boring you all to death, is there any one who can really really, tell me exactly what I will get if I reset
Win10 myself?

So sorry for what still turned out to be a book,

James

James Bentley

#496

Hi Carlos and list,

After hours of digging through settings with Narrator and a messed up installation of Jaws, I haven’t accomplished much. Here’s what I do have:

I seem to have a clean install of Windows.

For right now, I don’t think that I got any Dell software with the reset. I'm just having trouble going through unfamiliar menus with Narrator and broken Jaws.

I was able to turn off Windows driver updates as well as software updates, all in windows. I got the touch pad turned off and installed Jaws from a thumb drive. But, Jaws doesn’t work right.

Jaws says that there was a problem with installing the mirror drivers and that I need to first try a reboot. I did and Jaws still isn’t working right. Jaws said to try doing a Jaws repair.

I do not know how to do a Jaws repair and, don’t you have to be on line to do that? That was another thing that I could not find while digging through menus with Narrator or Jaws.

So, can any one tell me first, how to get on line with Win10? Next, Can any one give me step by step directions on doing a Jaws repair?

So many thanks,

James

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From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:59 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Exactly what really does happen if I reset Windows10 on a new Dell laptop?

Indeed, I would be interested to know if your Dell/OEM included software was restored as well.

----- Original Message -----

From: James Bentley

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:53 PM