favorite strong password generator?


Sharon Hooley
 

Hi,


I'm creating a new Bitwarden account.  If I understand correctly, the master password must be at least 50 characters!  If so, what do you use to make it strong with a bunch of characters on my PC? I know that Safari can create a 20-character long one, but what else can I do?


Thanks,


Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
Are you sure it has to be 50 characters? I did not have to have that many when I created my account earlier this year.

Greg Wocher

On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:21 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:

Hi,


I'm creating a new Bitwarden account. If I understand correctly, the master password must be at least 50 characters! If so, what do you use to make it strong with a bunch of characters on my PC? I know that Safari can create a 20-character long one, but what else can I do?


Thanks,







Jude DaShiell
 

No numbers no special symbols no spaces all upper-case and lower-case
letters. Here's why, there's only 10 digits and only 32 special symbols.
Upper and lower case letters uses a set of 52 not 10 or 32. Every time a
large set of 52 gets used, with every extra character in a password that
increases difficulty for anyone intent on cracking the password. A 20
letter password with upper-case and lower case letters is 52 raised to the
20th power and that's not a small number. The symbols and numbers are
password snake oil.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and amo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
Are you sure it has to be 50 characters? I did not have to have that many when I created my account earlier this year.

Greg Wocher


On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:21 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:

Hi,


I'm creating a new Bitwarden account. If I understand correctly, the master password must be at least 50 characters! If so, what do you use to make it strong with a bunch of characters on my PC? I know that Safari can create a 20-character long one, but what else can I do?


Thanks,












Jude DaShiell
 

Standard precautions like making sure no words are in the password or
abbreviations or chemical symbols needs to be done too.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and amo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023, Jude DaShiell wrote:

No numbers no special symbols no spaces all upper-case and lower-case
letters. Here's why, there's only 10 digits and only 32 special symbols.
Upper and lower case letters uses a set of 52 not 10 or 32. Every time a
large set of 52 gets used, with every extra character in a password that
increases difficulty for anyone intent on cracking the password. A 20
letter password with upper-case and lower case letters is 52 raised to the
20th power and that's not a small number. The symbols and numbers are
password snake oil.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and amo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
Are you sure it has to be 50 characters? I did not have to have that many when I created my account earlier this year.

Greg Wocher


On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:21 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:

Hi,


I'm creating a new Bitwarden account. If I understand correctly, the master password must be at least 50 characters! If so, what do you use to make it strong with a bunch of characters on my PC? I know that Safari can create a 20-character long one, but what else can I do?


Thanks,
















Monte Single
 

Hi Jude,

A lot of places, including banks, medical insurance, insist on a number and
a symbol in the password.
Can't avoid that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell
Sent: March 22, 2023 4:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorite strong password generator?

No numbers no special symbols no spaces all upper-case and lower-case
letters. Here's why, there's only 10 digits and only 32 special symbols.
Upper and lower case letters uses a set of 52 not 10 or 32. Every time a
large set of 52 gets used, with every extra character in a password that
increases difficulty for anyone intent on cracking the password. A 20
letter password with upper-case and lower case letters is 52 raised to the
20th power and that's not a small number. The symbols and numbers are
password snake oil.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and amo. Please use in that order."
Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
Are you sure it has to be 50 characters? I did not have to have that many
when I created my account earlier this year.

Greg Wocher


On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:21 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:

Hi,


I'm creating a new Bitwarden account. If I understand correctly, the
master password must be at least 50 characters! If so, what do you use to
make it strong with a bunch of characters on my PC? I know that Safari can
create a 20-character long one, but what else can I do?


Thanks,












Jude DaShiell
 

Those symbols and numbers make hacking easy. Most of the people in cyber
security that insist on this ought to be unemployable not to mention the
corps that hire them.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and amo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023, Monte Single wrote:

Hi Jude,

A lot of places, including banks, medical insurance, insist on a number and
a symbol in the password.
Can't avoid that.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell
Sent: March 22, 2023 4:47 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] favorite strong password generator?

No numbers no special symbols no spaces all upper-case and lower-case
letters. Here's why, there's only 10 digits and only 32 special symbols.
Upper and lower case letters uses a set of 52 not 10 or 32. Every time a
large set of 52 gets used, with every extra character in a password that
increases difficulty for anyone intent on cracking the password. A 20
letter password with upper-case and lower case letters is 52 raised to the
20th power and that's not a small number. The symbols and numbers are
password snake oil.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and amo. Please use in that order."
Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
Are you sure it has to be 50 characters? I did not have to have that many
when I created my account earlier this year.

Greg Wocher


On Mar 21, 2023, at 11:21 PM, Sharon Hooley <shooley42@...> wrote:

Hi,


I'm creating a new Bitwarden account. If I understand correctly, the
master password must be at least 50 characters! If so, what do you use to
make it strong with a bunch of characters on my PC? I know that Safari can
create a 20-character long one, but what else can I do?


Thanks,