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Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't remember how to or if there is a solution.  I have the latest Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.)  The quick key folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program it doesn't work again.  You have to go back into the add on manager and enable it again.  I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no solution.

What is the solution if any?  Thanks for any help.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Gene
 

I'm not sure there is one. But it can be done quickly and efficiently. You may already do it this way but if not, this is the most efficient way.
Open the add-ons manager with alt t then a.
Tab twice. Press x to get to the check box for the add on. At least it will be the add-on check box if it is the only one you have installed. I don't know about otherwise. Press space once to uncheck it then once to check it.
Close the tab with control f4.
You are now back where you started and once you get used to doing this, it is fast and efficient.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 12:15 AM
To: TechTalk Mailing List
Subject: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On

Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't
remember how to or if there is a solution. I have the latest
Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.) The quick key
folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program
it doesn't work again. You have to go back into the add on manager and
enable it again. I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no
solution.

What is the solution if any? Thanks for any help.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Gerald Levy
 


I don't think there is a solution.  I'm still running Thunderbird 68.1.21, and have the same problem. As with Firefox, Mozilla now scrutinizes all third-party add-ons for Thunderbird to ensure that they adhere to strict protocols , and so there is no guarantee that Quick Key Folder Navigation will continue to work in subsequent updates to Thunderbird, because its developer may simply give up trying to keep it up to date.   This is what happened with Firefox.  Blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum and Navigational Sounds have been blocked from the latest versions of Firefox, and their developers have abandoned them.  The same thing may happen to Quick Key Folder Navigation, if it hasn't already, which may explain why it still works, but only partially.


Gerald



On 11/1/2020 1:15 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't remember how to or if there is a solution.  I have the latest Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.)  The quick key folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program it doesn't work again.  You have to go back into the add on manager and enable it again.  I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no solution.

What is the solution if any?  Thanks for any help.


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gerald,

When I search for this add on, I get the message that it is compatible with version 78.4: go figure.


On 11/1/2020 6:31 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


I don't think there is a solution.  I'm still running Thunderbird 68.1.21, and have the same problem. As with Firefox, Mozilla now scrutinizes all third-party add-ons for Thunderbird to ensure that they adhere to strict protocols , and so there is no guarantee that Quick Key Folder Navigation will continue to work in subsequent updates to Thunderbird, because its developer may simply give up trying to keep it up to date.   This is what happened with Firefox.  Blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum and Navigational Sounds have been blocked from the latest versions of Firefox, and their developers have abandoned them.  The same thing may happen to Quick Key Folder Navigation, if it hasn't already, which may explain why it still works, but only partially.


Gerald



On 11/1/2020 1:15 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't remember how to or if there is a solution.  I have the latest Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.)  The quick key folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program it doesn't work again.  You have to go back into the add on manager and enable it again.  I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no solution.

What is the solution if any?  Thanks for any help.


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

Your suggestion works well. I just have to remember to do this every time I exit/rerun Thunderbird.

On 11/1/2020 6:23 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure there is one.  But it can be done quickly and efficiently. You may already do it this way but if not, this is the most efficient way.
Open the add-ons manager with alt t then a.
Tab twice.  Press x to get to the check box for the add on.  At least it will be the add-on check box if it is the only one you have installed.  I don't know about otherwise.  Press space once to uncheck it then once to check it.
Close the tab with control f4.
You are now back where you started and once you get used to doing this, it is fast and efficient.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 12:15 AM
To: TechTalk Mailing List
Subject: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On

Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't
remember how to or if there is a solution.  I have the latest
Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.)  The quick key
folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program
it doesn't work again.  You have to go back into the add on manager and
enable it again.  I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no
solution.

What is the solution if any?  Thanks for any help.
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Gerald Levy
 


Yes, it is "compatible".  But this does not necessarily mean that it will work 100%.  I don't think the developer of Quick Key Folder Navigation has updated it in a long time, and although you can get it to work by re-enabling it every time you open Thunderbird, there is no guarantee that it won't stop working altogether in the future, as was the case withthe previously mentioned blind-friendly Firefox add-ons.


Gerald



On 11/1/2020 7:03 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gerald,

When I search for this add on, I get the message that it is compatible with version 78.4: go figure.


On 11/1/2020 6:31 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


I don't think there is a solution.  I'm still running Thunderbird 68.1.21, and have the same problem. As with Firefox, Mozilla now scrutinizes all third-party add-ons for Thunderbird to ensure that they adhere to strict protocols , and so there is no guarantee that Quick Key Folder Navigation will continue to work in subsequent updates to Thunderbird, because its developer may simply give up trying to keep it up to date.   This is what happened with Firefox.  Blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum and Navigational Sounds have been blocked from the latest versions of Firefox, and their developers have abandoned them.  The same thing may happen to Quick Key Folder Navigation, if it hasn't already, which may explain why it still works, but only partially.


Gerald



On 11/1/2020 1:15 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't remember how to or if there is a solution.  I have the latest Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.)  The quick key folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program it doesn't work again.  You have to go back into the add on manager and enable it again.  I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no solution.

What is the solution if any?  Thanks for any help.


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Gene
 

No. There is a new compatible version. The problem, if you are using it, is that it won't work, even if its running, unless you disable and enable it once you run the program. If it were a compatibility problem, it just wouldn't work.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On






I don't think there is a solution. I'm still running Thunderbird 68.1.21, and have the same problem. As with Firefox, Mozilla now scrutinizes all third-party add-ons for Thunderbird to ensure that they adhere to strict protocols , and so there is no guarantee that Quick Key Folder Navigation will continue to work in subsequent updates to Thunderbird, because its developer may simply give up trying to keep it up to date. This is what happened with Firefox. Blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum and Navigational Sounds have been blocked from the latest versions of Firefox, and their developers have abandoned them. The same thing may happen to Quick Key Folder Navigation, if it hasn't already, which may explain why it still works, but only partially.




Gerald








On 11/1/2020 1:15 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't remember how to or if there is a solution. I have the latest Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.) The quick key folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program it doesn't work again. You have to go back into the add on manager and enable it again. I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no solution.

What is the solution if any? Thanks for any help.


Gene
 

Some sort of work was done to make it compatible. We don't know what will happen in the future but you have no grounds to have a pessimistic attitude. It may well be that the add-on is kept up-to-date. And if it stops working, as I've said before, why do you need to use the latest version of Thunderbird in the first place? Will someone please give me one example, from personal experience, of anyone being infected by opening an e-mail while using an older or old program like Windows Live Mail, Outlook Express, or an old version of Thunderbird? I'm not talking about opening attachments. I'm talking about opening a message. I don't recall hearing about one in so many years that I don't know when or if I heard about it happening.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 6:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On






Yes, it is "compatible". But this does not necessarily mean that it will work 100%. I don't think the developer of Quick Key Folder Navigation has updated it in a long time, and although you can get it to work by re-enabling it every time you open Thunderbird, there is no guarantee that it won't stop working altogether in the future, as was the case withthe previously mentioned blind-friendly Firefox add-ons.




Gerald








On 11/1/2020 7:03 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gerald,

When I search for this add on, I get the message that it is compatible with version 78.4: go figure.



On 11/1/2020 6:31 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:





I don't think there is a solution. I'm still running Thunderbird 68.1.21, and have the same problem. As with Firefox, Mozilla now scrutinizes all third-party add-ons for Thunderbird to ensure that they adhere to strict protocols , and so there is no guarantee that Quick Key Folder Navigation will continue to work in subsequent updates to Thunderbird, because its developer may simply give up trying to keep it up to date. This is what happened with Firefox. Blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum and Navigational Sounds have been blocked from the latest versions of Firefox, and their developers have abandoned them. The same thing may happen to Quick Key Folder Navigation, if it hasn't already, which may explain why it still works, but only partially.




Gerald








On 11/1/2020 1:15 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't remember how to or if there is a solution. I have the latest Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.) The quick key folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program it doesn't work again. You have to go back into the add on manager and enable it again. I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no solution.

What is the solution if any? Thanks for any help.


-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

I said this to Gene privately recently, but since it's come up here, I do not have this problem, many other people I know do not have this problem with the latest versions of Thunderbird and the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On.

When I open the Thunderbird Add-Ons manager and hit the triple-dot menu button for Quick Folder Key Navigation and go to its options, I do see something "odd" that I can't explain why it's this way, but it's worth checking.  There are two checkboxes in the Options, one clearly labeled, "Enable Mail-folder key navigation," along with a second, unlabeled checkbox that is checked.  I have no idea if something will be announced beyond "checkbox" for that second checkbox, but mine's checked and the issue described with constant need to disable/reenable is not occurring, and that's over a long period now.

The description in the add-on manager also goes into further detail than it once did, and I'll put the text here for easier review:
General Description: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as "p" and "n" for moving to the previous and next unread message respectively) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this option to the context menu when the folder pane has focus.
Details: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as the short-cuts for moving to the next and previous unread message) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this item to the "Go" menu.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Gene
 

The check box is checked by default, whatever it does. It has always been enabled for my installation. I don't know what may cause differences but this appears to be a widespread enough problem that many people have it. I've seen it discussed on a number of lists.

Gene
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On

I said this to Gene privately recently, but since it's come up here, I do not have this problem, many other people I know do not have this problem with the latest versions of Thunderbird and the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On.

When I open the Thunderbird Add-Ons manager and hit the triple-dot menu button for Quick Folder Key Navigation and go to its options, I do see something "odd" that I can't explain why it's this way, but it's worth checking. There are two checkboxes in the Options, one clearly labeled, "Enable Mail-folder key navigation," along with a second, unlabeled checkbox that is checked. I have no idea if something will be announced beyond "checkbox" for that second checkbox, but mine's checked and the issue described with constant need to disable/reenable is not occurring, and that's over a long period now.

The description in the add-on manager also goes into further detail than it once did, and I'll put the text here for easier review:
General Description: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as "p" and "n" for moving to the previous and next unread message respectively) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this option to the context menu when the folder pane has focus.
Details: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as the short-cuts for moving to the next and previous unread message) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this item to the "Go" menu.

Homepage https://github.com/hartag/keynav
--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 10:56 AM, Gene wrote:
this appears to be a widespread enough problem that many people have it.
-
I won't deny that.  But the fact that many don't suggests strongly, as is true in so many instances, that it is something idiosyncratic to the machines in question rather than a global (as in everyone has it) bug.  But the degree to which folks do have it also suggests that whatever the root cause is, it's not exactly rare, either.

Worth mentioning on the developer's GitHub page if you are so affected.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I have also experienced inconsistent behavior with the Quick Folder Key Navigation addon. Once I switched to version 3 of this addon I could not get the addon to function once I closed and restarted Thunderbird. I even removed and reinstalled the addon but this did not fix the problem. I even contacted the author of the addon but he was not able to duplicate the problem. Once a new Thunderbird update was downloaded the addon seemed to function inconsistently but then shortly after the update was installed it began to function consistently and worked every time I started Thunderbird. However, a subsequent update broke this consistency and now the addon once again stops functioning as soon as Thunderbird has closed and then restarted. I then have to disable and enable the addon in order for it to function but it only does so during the current session.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/1/2020 10:56 AM, Gene wrote:
The check box is checked by default, whatever it does.  It has always been enabled for my installation.  I don't know what may cause differences but this appears to be a widespread enough problem that many people have it. I've seen it discussed on a number of lists.

Gene
Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On

I said this to Gene privately recently, but since it's come up here, I do not have this problem, many other people I know do not have this problem with the latest versions of Thunderbird and the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On.

When I open the Thunderbird Add-Ons manager and hit the triple-dot menu button for Quick Folder Key Navigation and go to its options, I do see something "odd" that I can't explain why it's this way, but it's worth checking.  There are two checkboxes in the Options, one clearly labeled, "Enable Mail-folder key navigation," along with a second, unlabeled checkbox that is checked.  I have no idea if something will be announced beyond "checkbox" for that second checkbox, but mine's checked and the issue described with constant need to disable/reenable is not occurring, and that's over a long period now.

The description in the add-on manager also goes into further detail than it once did, and I'll put the text here for easier review:
General Description: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as "p" and "n" for moving to the previous and next unread message respectively) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this option to the context menu when the folder pane has focus.
Details: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as the short-cuts for moving to the next and previous unread message) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this item to the "Go" menu.

Homepage https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fhartag%2Fkeynav&;amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C6b7a809b5cee4631cc6708d87e7ea99e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637398429760250352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=2J51XwHebPov9WnUJ36mqSIXjGgJ8lBJVQVliSaurIc%3D&amp;reserved=0


Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
 

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 11:25 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I even contacted the author of the addon but he was not able to duplicate the problem.
-
Which is a major issue, both for users and the software's author.  You really can't fix what you can't replicate.

The above being said, this is one of the reasons I always tell individuals to log bug reports, whether or not there is a short-term fix from same.  If you're a developer and get one report, you can write it off as an aberration. If you keep getting report after report of the same issue, you can't.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Gene
 

I suppose there is a Thunderbird log. Can users understand it and send relevant information or the entire log, if necessary?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 10:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 11:25 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I even contacted the author of the addon but he was not able to duplicate the problem.-
Which is a major issue, both for users and the software's author. You really can't fix what you can't replicate.

The above being said, this is one of the reasons I always tell individuals to log bug reports, whether or not there is a short-term fix from same. If you're a developer and get one report, you can write it off as an aberration. If you keep getting report after report of the same issue, you can't.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gerald,

On the site referenced under the add  on manager, it says it was updated recently.


On 11/1/2020 7:32 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


Yes, it is "compatible".  But this does not necessarily mean that it will work 100%.  I don't think the developer of Quick Key Folder Navigation has updated it in a long time, and although you can get it to work by re-enabling it every time you open Thunderbird, there is no guarantee that it won't stop working altogether in the future, as was the case withthe previously mentioned blind-friendly Firefox add-ons.


Gerald



On 11/1/2020 7:03 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gerald,

When I search for this add on, I get the message that it is compatible with version 78.4: go figure.


On 11/1/2020 6:31 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


I don't think there is a solution.  I'm still running Thunderbird 68.1.21, and have the same problem. As with Firefox, Mozilla now scrutinizes all third-party add-ons for Thunderbird to ensure that they adhere to strict protocols , and so there is no guarantee that Quick Key Folder Navigation will continue to work in subsequent updates to Thunderbird, because its developer may simply give up trying to keep it up to date.   This is what happened with Firefox.  Blind-friendly add-ons like Webvisum and Navigational Sounds have been blocked from the latest versions of Firefox, and their developers have abandoned them.  The same thing may happen to Quick Key Folder Navigation, if it hasn't already, which may explain why it still works, but only partially.


Gerald



On 11/1/2020 1:15 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I had this issue before with earlier versions of Thunderbird and I can't remember how to or if there is a solution.  I have the latest Thunderbird 78.3x or something (just upgraded today.)  The quick key folder navigation works but when you close and then reopen the program it doesn't work again.  You have to go back into the add on manager and enable it again.  I uninstalled and reinstalled the add on, but still no solution.

What is the solution if any?  Thanks for any help.


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,

I d not see a second checkbox under the add on dialogue for this add on.  I wonder what screen reader you are using.


On 11/1/2020 10:42 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I said this to Gene privately recently, but since it's come up here, I do not have this problem, many other people I know do not have this problem with the latest versions of Thunderbird and the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On.

When I open the Thunderbird Add-Ons manager and hit the triple-dot menu button for Quick Folder Key Navigation and go to its options, I do see something "odd" that I can't explain why it's this way, but it's worth checking.  There are two checkboxes in the Options, one clearly labeled, "Enable Mail-folder key navigation," along with a second, unlabeled checkbox that is checked.  I have no idea if something will be announced beyond "checkbox" for that second checkbox, but mine's checked and the issue described with constant need to disable/reenable is not occurring, and that's over a long period now.

The description in the add-on manager also goes into further detail than it once did, and I'll put the text here for easier review:
General Description: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as "p" and "n" for moving to the previous and next unread message respectively) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this option to the context menu when the folder pane has focus.
Details: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as the short-cuts for moving to the next and previous unread message) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this item to the "Go" menu.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Ron, when you're in the Addons dialog look for a button labeled "more options" which will then show you this second unlabeled check box.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/1/2020 12:12 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Brian,

I d not see a second checkbox under the add on dialogue for this add on.  I wonder what screen reader you are using.


On 11/1/2020 10:42 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I said this to Gene privately recently, but since it's come up here, I do not have this problem, many other people I know do not have this problem with the latest versions of Thunderbird and the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On.

When I open the Thunderbird Add-Ons manager and hit the triple-dot menu button for Quick Folder Key Navigation and go to its options, I do see something "odd" that I can't explain why it's this way, but it's worth checking.  There are two checkboxes in the Options, one clearly labeled, "Enable Mail-folder key navigation," along with a second, unlabeled checkbox that is checked.  I have no idea if something will be announced beyond "checkbox" for that second checkbox, but mine's checked and the issue described with constant need to disable/reenable is not occurring, and that's over a long period now.

The description in the add-on manager also goes into further detail than it once did, and I'll put the text here for easier review:
General Description: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as "p" and "n" for moving to the previous and next unread message respectively) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this option to the context menu when the folder pane has focus.
Details: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as the short-cuts for moving to the next and previous unread message) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this item to the "Go" menu.
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Gene
 

The check box isn't properly accessible.
Press space on the more options button.
You will be in a menu. Down arrow to options and press enter.
Now, turn browse mode off, NVDA key space bar, and tab around. You will find two check boxes.

The unlabeled check box is checked by default. Of course, you may uncheck it, butt I have no idea what that will do. But since it is checked by default and some people report the problem while others don't, I doubt it is related.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 11:12 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Issue With Thunderbird latest upgrade and Quick Folder Key Navigation Add On

Hi Brian,

I d not see a second checkbox under the add on dialogue for this add on. I wonder what screen reader you are using.



On 11/1/2020 10:42 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I said this to Gene privately recently, but since it's come up here, I do not have this problem, many other people I know do not have this problem with the latest versions of Thunderbird and the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On.

When I open the Thunderbird Add-Ons manager and hit the triple-dot menu button for Quick Folder Key Navigation and go to its options, I do see something "odd" that I can't explain why it's this way, but it's worth checking. There are two checkboxes in the Options, one clearly labeled, "Enable Mail-folder key navigation," along with a second, unlabeled checkbox that is checked. I have no idea if something will be announced beyond "checkbox" for that second checkbox, but mine's checked and the issue described with constant need to disable/reenable is not occurring, and that's over a long period now.

The description in the add-on manager also goes into further detail than it once did, and I'll put the text here for easier review:
General Description: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as "p" and "n" for moving to the previous and next unread message respectively) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this option to the context menu when the folder pane has focus.
Details: This extension makes it possible to quickly navigate to a particular folder in the folder pane simply by typing the first few letters of the folder name when the folder pane has focus. Note that single-letter Thunderbird short-cuts (such as the short-cuts for moving to the next and previous unread message) do not work in the folder pane when key navigation is enabled. Therefore, There is an option to turn key navigation on/off, as well as for adding this item to the "Go" menu.

Homepage https://github.com/hartag/keynav
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

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John Sanfilippo
 

Does it have anything to do with Tools for all add-ons, Update all add ons automatically?

Press:
alt t, arrow down to add ons, tab till you reach Tools for add ons, press that button, arrow down to Set all add ons to update automatically.

This is what I did and I haven't had any further trouble, although, I had been.

I'm not sure this is it, but I haven't seen it mentioned, so I thought I'd make a little noise.

john S