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Thunder Thinks This Is Spam


lynn white
 

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.


Gene
 

You can turn off the spam filter. You don't needit if your provider filters spam well. I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.


 

Gene is correct.

If, however, your e-mail service provider does not have good spam filtering, simply responding to the pop-ups, which used to allow you to mark things "not spam" when they weren't, teaches Thunderbird, and pretty quickly they stop.

As Gene's instructions note, this is an adaptive spam filter, which means that user input about what is spam versus not spam gets integrated into its filtering decisions.  But you have to train it.

I've only ever seen this happen on new installs of Thunderbird or where a 3rd party uninstaller was used that obliterated all previous traces of Thunderbird and it has to start from scratch.  There's also the option to uninstall and reinstall, as there could have been some corruption that's occurred somehow.  (Or, if you're still on Version 68, doing the manual upgrade to 78).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


lynn white
 

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter.  You don't needit if your provider filters spam well.  I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.






lynn white
 

Hi Brian,

How do you perform a manual upgrade? Thanks.

On 9/15/2020 9:10 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Gene is correct.

If, however, your e-mail service provider does not have good spam filtering, simply responding to the pop-ups, which used to allow you to mark things "not spam" when they weren't, teaches Thunderbird, and pretty quickly they stop.

As Gene's instructions note, this is an adaptive spam filter, which means that user input about what is spam versus not spam gets integrated into its filtering decisions.  But you have to train it.

I've only ever seen this happen on new installs of Thunderbird or where a 3rd party uninstaller was used that obliterated all previous traces of Thunderbird and it has to start from scratch.  There's also the option to uninstall and reinstall, as there could have been some corruption that's occurred somehow.  (Or, if you're still on Version 68, doing the manual upgrade to 78).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


 

Lynn,

           Go to https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/, activate the Free Download (looks like a button, but appears to be a link on hover-over), and go through the rest of the typical save and run.  It will update the existing Thunderbird install.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Gene
 

I don't know what is causing it. Do you have more than one account? If so, you need to turn off the setting for all accounts individually.

You said this just started happening. Brian spoke of possible corruption of the program and that could be. You may want to uninstall and install it again as he suggests. Something detrimental evidently happened since you didn't have this behavior before.

Even if you solve the problem, you may still want to consider the following:
One thing I encourage people to do is use Thunderbird portable. You can keep your installed version and try the portable version so you will have no delay or interruption in receiving e-mail.

The reasons I say that people should use the portable version are that you can move the program to any machine you want and have all your e-mail and settings, except that I don't know if you will have message rules transferred.
You can run it from something like a thumb drive if you are using a machine that isn't yours and that you don't have the program on. And you can keep a backup copy so that if the program becomes corrupted, you can simply delete it and copy the backup copy to the location where you usually have the program. To keep the backup copy current, you can delete the backup when you want and copy the one you are using to that location again. This will preserve your e-mail and any changes you have made to the program, such as settings changes and probably add-ons as well.

You won't have to trouble shoot problems anymore that arise from corruption of the program. You can just replace it by deleting it and copying the backup copy to the location you run the program from.
Although I use the Brave browser for most of my browsing, I use Firefox portable off and on and I use the portable version for the same reasons.

I use portable versions of programs where they either do everything the installed version does or where the portable version does the things I want it to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method
that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the
Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter. You don't needit if your provider filters spam well. I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.








I use portable versions of programs where they do the same things as the nonportable versions or if they do what I want even if they don't do everything.

Gene


Ann Parsons
 

Hi all,

What has? There's nothing that makes sense here.

Ann P.

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lynn white
 

Hi Gene,

Thanks. I did get the update installed. I did the update but now I have two versions on my desktop. The second icon will not recognize my password.

What it said was that I got blocked because I was using an insecure app. (Thunderbird?) Anyway, for now, I can use the original until this gets straighten out.

On 9/15/2020 9:33 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is causing it.  Do you have more than one account?  If so, you need to turn off the setting for all accounts individually.

You said this just started happening.  Brian spoke of possible corruption of the program and that could be.  You may want to uninstall and install it again as he suggests.  Something detrimental evidently happened since you didn't have this behavior before.

Even if you solve the problem, you may still want to consider the following:
One thing I encourage people to do is use Thunderbird portable. You can keep your installed version and try the portable version so you will have no delay or interruption in receiving e-mail.

The reasons I say that people should use the portable version are that you can move the program to any machine you want and have all your e-mail and settings, except that I don't know if you will have message rules transferred.
You can run it from something like a thumb drive if you are using a machine that isn't yours and that you don't have the program on.  And you can keep a backup copy so that if the program becomes corrupted, you can simply delete it and copy the backup copy to the location where you usually have the program.  To keep the backup copy current, you can delete the backup when you want and copy the one you are using to that location again.  This will preserve your e-mail and any changes you have made to the program, such as settings changes and probably add-ons as well.

You won't have to trouble shoot problems anymore that arise from corruption of the program.  You can just replace it by deleting it and copying the backup copy to the location you run the program from.
Although I use the Brave browser for most of my browsing, I use Firefox portable off and on and I use the portable version for the same reasons.

I use portable versions of programs where they either do everything the installed version does or where the portable version does the things I want it to do.

-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method
that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the
Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter.  You don't needit if your provider filters spam well.  I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.








I use portable versions of programs where they do the same things as the nonportable versions or if they do what I want even if they don't do everything.

Gene


lynn white
 

Hi Gene,

Thanks. I did get the update installed. I did the update but now I have two versions on my desktop. The second icon will not recognize my password.

What it said was that I got blocked because I was using an insecure app. (Thunderbird?) Anyway, for now, I can use the original until this gets straighten out.

On 9/15/2020 9:33 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is causing it.  Do you have more than one account?  If so, you need to turn off the setting for all accounts individually.

You said this just started happening.  Brian spoke of possible corruption of the program and that could be.  You may want to uninstall and install it again as he suggests.  Something detrimental evidently happened since you didn't have this behavior before.

Even if you solve the problem, you may still want to consider the following:
One thing I encourage people to do is use Thunderbird portable. You can keep your installed version and try the portable version so you will have no delay or interruption in receiving e-mail.

The reasons I say that people should use the portable version are that you can move the program to any machine you want and have all your e-mail and settings, except that I don't know if you will have message rules transferred.
You can run it from something like a thumb drive if you are using a machine that isn't yours and that you don't have the program on.  And you can keep a backup copy so that if the program becomes corrupted, you can simply delete it and copy the backup copy to the location where you usually have the program.  To keep the backup copy current, you can delete the backup when you want and copy the one you are using to that location again.  This will preserve your e-mail and any changes you have made to the program, such as settings changes and probably add-ons as well.

You won't have to trouble shoot problems anymore that arise from corruption of the program.  You can just replace it by deleting it and copying the backup copy to the location you run the program from.
Although I use the Brave browser for most of my browsing, I use Firefox portable off and on and I use the portable version for the same reasons.

I use portable versions of programs where they either do everything the installed version does or where the portable version does the things I want it to do.

-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method
that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the
Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter.  You don't needit if your provider filters spam well.  I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.








I use portable versions of programs where they do the same things as the nonportable versions or if they do what I want even if they don't do everything.

Gene


Gene
 

That's odd. As far as I know, Thunderbird is classified as a secure application. Maybe somethihng went wrong with the update and it somehow isn't being seen properly.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hi Gene,

Thanks. I did get the update installed. I did the update but now I have
two versions on my desktop. The second icon will not recognize my password.

What it said was that I got blocked because I was using an insecure app.
(Thunderbird?) Anyway, for now, I can use the original until this gets
straighten out.

On 9/15/2020 9:33 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is causing it. Do you have more than one account? If so, you need to turn off the setting for all accounts individually.

You said this just started happening. Brian spoke of possible corruption of the program and that could be. You may want to uninstall and install it again as he suggests. Something detrimental evidently happened since you didn't have this behavior before.

Even if you solve the problem, you may still want to consider the following:
One thing I encourage people to do is use Thunderbird portable. You can keep your installed version and try the portable version so you will have no delay or interruption in receiving e-mail.

The reasons I say that people should use the portable version are that you can move the program to any machine you want and have all your e-mail and settings, except that I don't know if you will have message rules transferred.
You can run it from something like a thumb drive if you are using a machine that isn't yours and that you don't have the program on. And you can keep a backup copy so that if the program becomes corrupted, you can simply delete it and copy the backup copy to the location where you usually have the program. To keep the backup copy current, you can delete the backup when you want and copy the one you are using to that location again. This will preserve your e-mail and any changes you have made to the program, such as settings changes and probably add-ons as well.

You won't have to trouble shoot problems anymore that arise from corruption of the program. You can just replace it by deleting it and copying the backup copy to the location you run the program from.
Although I use the Brave browser for most of my browsing, I use Firefox portable off and on and I use the portable version for the same reasons.

I use portable versions of programs where they either do everything the installed version does or where the portable version does the things I want it to do.

-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method
that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the
Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter. You don't needit if your provider filters spam well. I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.








I use portable versions of programs where they do the same things as the nonportable versions or if they do what I want even if they don't do everything.

Gene



 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 06:48 PM, Gene wrote:
Thunderbird is classified as a secure application.
-
It is.  But you do have to go through the Google OAUTH process to get it recognized for accessing your account(s).  This typically occurs when you are initially trying to set up the account under Thunderbird, and has been in place for some time now.  I know I did this for a version of Thunderbird earlier than 68 and the recognition of Thunderbird as having access to my accounts has carried over since.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


lynn white
 

That's my idea as well. I'll check it out tomorrow.

On 9/15/2020 5:48 PM, Gene wrote:
That's odd.  As far as I know, Thunderbird is classified as a secure application.  Maybe somethihng went wrong with the update and it somehow isn't being seen properly.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hi Gene,

Thanks. I did get the update installed. I did the update but now I have
two versions on my desktop. The second icon will not recognize my password.

What it said was that I got blocked because I was using an insecure app.
(Thunderbird?) Anyway, for now, I can use the original until this gets
straighten out.

On 9/15/2020 9:33 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is causing it.  Do you have more than one account?  If so, you need to turn off the setting for all accounts individually.

You said this just started happening.  Brian spoke of possible corruption of the program and that could be.  You may want to uninstall and install it again as he suggests.  Something detrimental evidently happened since you didn't have this behavior before.

Even if you solve the problem, you may still want to consider the following:
One thing I encourage people to do is use Thunderbird portable. You can keep your installed version and try the portable version so you will have no delay or interruption in receiving e-mail.

The reasons I say that people should use the portable version are that you can move the program to any machine you want and have all your e-mail and settings, except that I don't know if you will have message rules transferred.
You can run it from something like a thumb drive if you are using a machine that isn't yours and that you don't have the program on.  And you can keep a backup copy so that if the program becomes corrupted, you can simply delete it and copy the backup copy to the location where you usually have the program. To keep the backup copy current, you can delete the backup when you want and copy the one you are using to that location again. This will preserve your e-mail and any changes you have made to the program, such as settings changes and probably add-ons as well.

You won't have to trouble shoot problems anymore that arise from corruption of the program.  You can just replace it by deleting it and copying the backup copy to the location you run the program from.
Although I use the Brave browser for most of my browsing, I use Firefox portable off and on and I use the portable version for the same reasons.

I use portable versions of programs where they either do everything the installed version does or where the portable version does the things I want it to do.

-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method
that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the
Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter.  You don't needit if your provider filters spam well.  I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.








I use portable versions of programs where they do the same things as the nonportable versions or if they do what I want even if they don't do everything.

Gene






lynn white
 

Hey Brian and Gene,

I'm now on the updated version and it is working quite well. Don't know why but it is performing as expected.

On 9/15/2020 9:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Lynn,

           Go to https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/, activate the Free Download (looks like a button, but appears to be a link on hover-over), and go through the rest of the typical save and run.  It will update the existing Thunderbird install.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 07:13 PM, lynn white wrote:
Don't know why but it is performing as expected.
-
I'm glad to hear that.  As you've now learned by experience, one often cannot know why an error came into existence in the first place and sometimes a reinstall or an upgrade gets rid of it.

There are odd things that really do defy explanation without expending way, way, way more effort than it's worth, as things like this are seldom the result of something the user did, or did not, do. 
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


lynn white
 

Hey Brian,

I'm too tired to expend that much energy on something like that. But please know how much I appreciate you and Gene for your willingness to offer such good health.

On 9/15/2020 6:18 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 07:13 PM, lynn white wrote:
Don't know why but it is performing as expected.
-
I'm glad to hear that.  As you've now learned by experience, one often cannot know why an error came into existence in the first place and sometimes a reinstall or an upgrade gets rid of it.

There are odd things that really do defy explanation without expending way, way, way more effort than it's worth, as things like this are seldom the result of something the user did, or did not, do. 
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

        ~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on Technibble.com


Lynette
 

If you are currently using TB, and you create a portable version, will all your setting transfer to the portable version?
TIA
Lynette

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

I don't know what is causing it. Do you have more than one account? If so,
you need to turn off the setting for all accounts individually.

You said this just started happening. Brian spoke of possible corruption of
the program and that could be. You may want to uninstall and install it
again as he suggests. Something detrimental evidently happened since you
didn't have this behavior before.

Even if you solve the problem, you may still want to consider the following:
One thing I encourage people to do is use Thunderbird portable. You can keep
your installed version and try the portable version so you will have no
delay or interruption in receiving e-mail.

The reasons I say that people should use the portable version are that you
can move the program to any machine you want and have all your e-mail and
settings, except that I don't know if you will have message rules
transferred.
You can run it from something like a thumb drive if you are using a machine
that isn't yours and that you don't have the program on. And you can keep a
backup copy so that if the program becomes corrupted, you can simply delete
it and copy the backup copy to the location where you usually have the
program. To keep the backup copy current, you can delete the backup when
you want and copy the one you are using to that location again. This will
preserve your e-mail and any changes you have made to the program, such as
settings changes and probably add-ons as well.

You won't have to trouble shoot problems anymore that arise from corruption
of the program. You can just replace it by deleting it and copying the
backup copy to the location you run the program from.
Although I use the Brave browser for most of my browsing, I use Firefox
portable off and on and I use the portable version for the same reasons.

I use portable versions of programs where they either do everything the
installed version does or where the portable version does the things I want
it to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method
that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the
Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter. You don't needit if your provider filters spam well. I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.








I use portable versions of programs where they do the same things as the
nonportable versions or if they do what I want even if they don't do
everything.

Gene


Lynette
 

Actually, this message makes no sense because of your practice of never including info about what you are responding t.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:37 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hi all,

What has? There's nothing that makes sense here.

Ann P.

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Gene
 

You aren't creating a portable version from the currently installed version.  You are placing a portable version on your machine. I haven't looked into whether you can import settings and messages and the address book from the installed version.


Gene

On 9/16/2020 9:35 AM, Lynette wrote:
If you are currently using TB, and  you create a portable version, will all your setting transfer to the portable version?
TIA
Lynette


-----Original Message----- From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:33 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

I don't know what is causing it.  Do you have more than one account?  If so,
you need to turn off the setting for all accounts individually.

You said this just started happening.  Brian spoke of possible corruption of
the program and that could be.  You may want to uninstall and install it
again as he suggests.  Something detrimental evidently happened since you
didn't have this behavior before.

Even if you solve the problem, you may still want to consider the following:
One thing I encourage people to do is use Thunderbird portable. You can keep
your installed version and try the portable version so you will have no
delay or interruption in receiving e-mail.

The reasons I say that people should use the portable version are that you
can move the program to any machine you want and have all your e-mail and
settings, except that I don't know if you will have message rules
transferred.
You can run it from something like a thumb drive if you are using a machine
that isn't yours and that you don't have the program on.  And you can keep a
backup copy so that if the program becomes corrupted, you can simply delete
it and copy the backup copy to the location where you usually have the
program.  To keep the backup copy current, you can delete the backup when
you want and copy the one you are using to that location again. This will
preserve your e-mail and any changes you have made to the program, such as
settings changes and probably add-ons as well.

You won't have to trouble shoot problems anymore that arise from corruption
of the program.  You can just replace it by deleting it and copying the
backup copy to the location you run the program from.
Although I use the Brave browser for most of my browsing, I use Firefox
portable off and on and I use the portable version for the same reasons.

I use portable versions of programs where they either do everything the
installed version does or where the portable version does the things I want
it to do.

-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

Hey Gene,

First of all, thank you as always. I perform the step by step method
that you gave. Unfortunately, I'm still getting this message from the
Tbird.

If you have any other ideas, I've got an open ear.

On 9/15/2020 9:04 AM, Gene wrote:
You can turn off the spam filter.  You don't needit if your provider filters spam well.  I don't use a spam filter on my machine and I get almost no spam because the GMail spam filter filters out just about everything.

Here is how you do it.
New main steps start on new lines.
I'll go into more detail if you need me to about how to find things.
Open tools with alt t.
Type s to open the account settings dialog.
Down arrow to junk settings.
Tab a few times until you get to Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account.
Uncheckit with the space bar.
Tab to and activate the ok button.
The intrusive and annoying messages will be gone and you may wwell se little or no more spam than you do now.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: lynn white
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Thunder Thinks This Is Spam

This has suddenly started popping up for every message. Fixes? Thanks.








I use portable versions of programs where they do the same things as the
nonportable versions or if they do what I want even if they don't do
everything.

Gene






 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:45 AM, Lynette wrote:
this message makes no sense because of your practice of never including info about what you are responding to.
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Agreed.  It came out of nowhere and was apropos of nothing in the context of this topic.

But, back to Thunderbird.  I am going to give the exact opposite advice from Gene.   Portable versions are great things, and I use a lot of them, but if you're using a machine you "always use" and want an e-mail client it is best practice to use the installed version.  There are differences between portable and installed versions of virtually any product that has both.  And when it comes to using screen readers with them, you can be virtually certain that all testing related to the interaction between the two things is going to have used the installed versions of both.  You're just adding a layer of uncertainty that seldom has any practical benefit by using a portable version of something that has an installed version.
 
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